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Bendaredonedat 01-08-2007 10:55 PM

Gator Bait
 
jus wanna thank everyone who played a part in giving Gators and 71/2 tonight. OSU sure does look unstoppable, no way they can lose right .....$200 that i will glady give back to horse industry!!! i live in suck eye nation and this is real nice

hailrazer 01-08-2007 11:04 PM

Agreed! I (redboardingly) loaded up on the Gators and the over and made enough to finance opening weekend at Oaklawn. Gator Nation indeed!!!

Coach Pants 01-08-2007 11:06 PM

W2G redboarders!!! SEC RULES!!!

Bendaredonedat 01-08-2007 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by hailrazer
Agreed! I (redboardingly) loaded up on the Gators and the over and made enough to finance opening weekend at Oaklawn. Gator Nation indeed!!!

Im happy for you, i could of reboarded on the Hogs if they didnt suck. And you have no clue what its like around about O State, like the gators or not if your not an OSU fan around here its rough. Good Luck at Oaklawn, wish i could have reboarded on Lawyer Ron:D

packerbacker7964 01-08-2007 11:18 PM

Love them HOGS baby. Gators brought it home for us though. SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC baby. Basketball and football champs. SEC SEC I hate them Big 10 Homers.

sham 01-08-2007 11:22 PM

Any doubt which is the toughest conference? The final ranking should be #1- Florida...#2 LSU. That leads to a great T-shirt for Auburn:

Auburn...27
#1 Fla....17

Auburn ...7
#2 LSU ...3


The SEC sent 9 of the 12 teams (that's getting pretty deep in the old roster) to bowl games and won 6 of them including the national championship. Fine performance I would suggest.

Bendaredonedat 01-08-2007 11:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sham
Any doubt which is the toughest conference? The final ranking should be #1- Florida...#2 LSU. That leads to a great T-shirt for Auburn:

Auburn...27
#1 Fla....17

Auburn ...7
#2 LSU ...3


The SEC sent 9 of the 12 teams (that's getting pretty deep in the old roster) to bowl games and won 6 of them including the national championship. Fine performance I would suggest.

LSU is very good and i cant see any reason why they shouldnt be 2

saucon17 01-08-2007 11:31 PM

I'm looking at the Box Score and I see that the Buckeyes only
had a total of 82 yards of offense, that is pathetic from a #1
team in college football. How far to do you people think OSU
will fall in the polls

Bendaredonedat 01-08-2007 11:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saucon17
I'm looking at the Box Score and I see that the Buckeyes only
had a total of 82 yards of offense, that is pathetic from a #1
team in college football. How far to do you people think OSU
will fall in the polls

the OSU offensive line was dominated tonight hands down, and Ginn? being out didnt help them, as far as the polls im not sure but FLA ,MICH, USC , should be ahead of them for sure. im not sure what they have coming in next year ,but i bet the polls wont treat em to bad

Cajungator26 01-08-2007 11:43 PM

Guys, just wanted to say before I hit the sack... OMG WOW...

I am hammered and PROUD to be a GATOR. They brought their A game tonight and boy did it show... HOLY COW!!! :D

brianwspencer 01-08-2007 11:54 PM

two things -- i've spoken to cajun, and for her admitting that she is really drunk, she is still quite capable of talking football.

secondly, i've learned a lot here. i thought there was no way ohio state could lose. if i had to pick one thing i've learned here, i would say it was from my buddy bellsendboy in the "fg xmas eve" thread. if there was no way that i could forsee the result that inevitably happened, there is only one single conclusion that could be the reality.....

the game was fixed. period.

ok in honesty though -- i was wicked wrong. i think anyone who has followed football would say that it was clear that ohio state did not show up at all and didn't play the game that we've seen them play all year.

but the fact remains, that after tonight -- it was clear that even THAT wouldn't have been good enough to beat the Gators tonight.

Very deserving champions after that performance.

hailrazer 01-09-2007 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by brianwspencer
two things -- i've spoken to cajun, and for her admitting that she is really drunk, she is still quite capable of talking football.

secondly, i've learned a lot here. i thought there was no way ohio state could lose. if i had to pick one thing i've learned here, i would say it was from my buddy bellsendboy in the "fg xmas eve" thread. if there was no way that i could forsee the result that inevitably happened, there is only one single conclusion that could be the reality.....

the game was fixed. period.

ok in honesty though -- i was wicked wrong. i think anyone who has followed football would say that it was clear that ohio state did not show up at all and didn't play the game that we've seen them play all year.

but the fact remains, that after tonight -- it was clear that even THAT wouldn't have been good enough to beat the Gators tonight.

Very deserving champions after that performance.

It is my very humble opinion that the underdog in the championship game, as well as most bowl games has a huge advantage. Ohio State comes in thinking that if they play as they have all year that they are the better team (as they should). Florida comes in hungry to prove everyone wrong, makes tons of adjustments and throws the book at OSU early. Before you know it, the game is over. I agree that OSU didn't play their game tonight, but I think that had everything to do with Florida being incredibly fast and a different team than they had seen on film...

Danzig 01-09-2007 03:06 AM

well, just woke up to find a repeat performance by an sec team. deja vu people! lsu/florida with the same scores in their respective bowl games.

absolutely lsu should have leap-frogged osu to #2. but, what can you do?

redemption!!! florida played an awesome game. what gratification for those of us who argued that yes, absolutely florida BELONGED in this game.

the SEC showed it to those 'football purists' who think that the michigans and osus of this world are 'better'.....

oh, and i gotta go find that guy at one of my accounts. lol the one who thought the little lady didn't know what she was talking about to even suggest florida could win.


i forced myself to bed at the half--you guys see what time i'm posting this! what a way to wake up.

congrats to florida--dual titles, unreal.

Danzig 01-09-2007 03:06 AM

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Cajungator26 01-09-2007 08:04 AM

LOL Deb... my head is killing me. :o

Too much crown last night... shiat. GO GATORS and GEAUX TIGAHS! :D

Thunder Gulch 01-09-2007 08:25 AM

While I certainly believe the evidence presented by the bowls would lead most to believe that LSU is the second best team- maybe USC- it really doesn't matter. Put Boise up there if you can. They still haven't lost.

Bad month for the Michigan apologists. The whole argument about losing to OSU by only 3 made them deserving really blew up. As it turned out, OSU wasn't as great as they were made out to be.

SniperSB23 01-09-2007 09:35 AM

Pretty stupid that had UCLA beat USC the Gators wouldn't have even got in the National Championship game. Especially ridiculous when you are in a conference with 8 of the best 30 teams in the nation. The sport needs a playoff and fast or the SEC will continue to be shut out of the national championship because it is so tough to go undefeated in that conference.

jpops757 01-09-2007 10:04 AM

Well deserved championship. The big thing about a playoff is that all the bowl games could be incorperated into a playoff. A playoff would eliminate the uncalled for 40-50 day layoffs. A quality team that plays a tough schedule want be eliminated early in the season. It would put some meaning to all the insignificant bowl games,thus insuring sell outs because some of the early[most] bowls are a joke.

brianwspencer 01-09-2007 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Thunder Gulch
Bad month for the Michigan apologists. The whole argument about losing to OSU by only 3 made them deserving really blew up. As it turned out, OSU wasn't as great as they were made out to be.

That's a half fair, half unfair argument. It certainly didn't help my argument that Michigan is still a better team than USC, but I don't think it told us that much about OSU except that they were not as good of a football team as Florida. OSU certainly didn't show up. Nobody can dispute that, so I'm not sure that this game somehow negates the rest of their season and makes them "not as great as they were made out to be." They had a pretty freaking good season and got figured out, and romped by one great football team. Half of their explosive offensive duo was out the entire game (after touching the ball once (?) and scoring 7 points with it.), and it was obvious that that hurt Smith's ability to work with the football.

I'm taking nothing away from Florida's performance last night, I explained that to Cajun right after the game -- there are no excuses, but there's also no reason to get all carried away with OSU being frauds.

Cajungator26 01-09-2007 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by brianwspencer
That's a half fair, half unfair argument. It certainly didn't help my argument that Michigan is still a better team than USC, but I don't think it told us that much about OSU except that they were not as good of a football team as Florida. OSU certainly didn't show up. Nobody can dispute that, so I'm not sure that this game somehow negates the rest of their season and makes them "not as great as they were made out to be." They had a pretty freaking good season and got figured out, and romped by one great football team. Half of their explosive offensive duo was out the entire game (after touching the ball once (?) and scoring 7 points with it.), and it was obvious that that hurt Smith's ability to work with the football.

I'm taking nothing away from Florida's performance last night, I explained that to Cajun right after the game -- there are no excuses, but there's also no reason to get all carried away with OSU being frauds.

I certainly don't believe that OSU is a fraud. Like I said with Michigan, that was not the same OSU we saw all season long. I believe in my heart, though that even if they HAD brought their "A" game, Florida would have beaten them. Florida wanted to win last night and they wanted it badly... I'm proud of my boys! :D I'm just happy for the SEC... I got so sick of hearing people say all season that our conference is overrated.

Gander 01-09-2007 10:23 AM

The 51 day layoff thing is really bad. Thats like waiting 51 days (7 weeks) after the NFC & AFC Championship games to play the Super Bowl.

There is absolutely no reason to have any team wait 51 days to play their next game.

That being said, Ohio State stunk last night and I am glad they got beat, I hate the Little Ten. College football needs major revamping fast, its become very anticlimatic and leaves fans with tons of unanswered questions at the end the bowl season.

Remember what happened to the Detroit Tigers after sweeping the Oakland A's in the ALCS? They had several days off and that probably contributed to their demise in the World Series.

That game last night left me with, who cares about college football until a playoff system is put in place. Oh ya, congratulations Florida, now the champions in the 2 big sports. :cool:

sham 01-09-2007 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by SniperSB23
Pretty stupid that had UCLA beat USC the Gators wouldn't have even got in the National Championship game. Especially ridiculous when you are in a conference with 8 of the best 30 teams in the nation. The sport needs a playoff and fast or the SEC will continue to be shut out of the national championship because it is so tough to go undefeated in that conference.

Everybody wants a playoff, but year after year we go without one.

Coach Pants 01-09-2007 10:28 AM

I'd just like to thank the media for having somewhat of an influence on the betting lines. May their expertise spill over to the NFL Playoffs.

SentToStud 01-09-2007 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by brianwspencer
That's a half fair, half unfair argument. It certainly didn't help my argument that Michigan is still a better team than USC, but I don't think it told us that much about OSU except that they were not as good of a football team as Florida. OSU certainly didn't show up. Nobody can dispute that, so I'm not sure that this game somehow negates the rest of their season and makes them "not as great as they were made out to be." They had a pretty freaking good season and got figured out, and romped by one great football team. Half of their explosive offensive duo was out the entire game (after touching the ball once (?) and scoring 7 points with it.), and it was obvious that that hurt Smith's ability to work with the football.

I'm taking nothing away from Florida's performance last night, I explained that to Cajun right after the game -- there are no excuses, but there's also no reason to get all carried away with OSU being frauds.

OSU may not be a fraud but they've now lost nine straight bowl games against SEC teams. Michigan is a snapy 1-6 vs USC in the Rose Bowl since 1965.

A lot of people I know think the Big10 is overrated. I think they may be right. This years Big10 Bowl teams:

Purdue: lost 24-7 vs Maryland
Minn: lost 44-41 vs Tex Tech
Iowa lost 26-24 vs Texas
Penn St beat Tennessee 20-10
Wisc beat Ark 17-14
Mich lost to USC 32-18
OSU lost 41-14 vs Florida

I recall last year The Big10 was 3-4 in bowl games.

Gander 01-09-2007 10:30 AM

What was the over/under in last night's game?

Appeared it was going way high but with only 7 points scored in the 2nd half, I bet the game went under.

SniperSB23 01-09-2007 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sham
Everybody wants a playoff, but year after year we go without one.

You can blame the Big Ten commish for that. Interesting article on ESPN.com yesterday about how much power he has. He basically said we will see a playoff once ratings and attendance start to fall but as long as they keep rising there is no need for one. So from now on I'm only watching college football games involving either a non-BCS team or a Big East team (since I know the other BCS conferences would love to kick them out). Any game involving a Big Ten team I will be especially careful to not watch. If enough people took this approach they might actually make the playoff a reality.

SentToStud 01-09-2007 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gander
What was the over/under in last night's game?

Appeared it was going way high but with only 7 points scored in the 2nd half, I bet the game went under.

it was ~~ 47.

Coach Pants 01-09-2007 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gander
What was the over/under in last night's game?

Appeared it was going way high but with only 7 points scored in the 2nd half, I bet the game went under.

47

brianwspencer 01-09-2007 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cajungator26
I believe in my heart, though that even if they HAD brought their "A" game, Florida would have beaten them.

In case you don't remember, I told you that last night too when I congratulated you :D

Seven weeks ago, maybe. Saturday night, maybe. Last night? Not a chance.

Florida was not losing that game last night no matter what. It was anti-climactic though because it wasn't the game it should have been. (Ps, word is that Ginn hurt his foot on the touchdown CELEBRATION?! What a waste.)

I just wish Florida had to play Boise State now :)

Cajungator26 01-09-2007 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by brianwspencer
In case you don't remember, I told you that last night too when I congratulated you :D

Seven weeks ago, maybe. Saturday night, maybe. Last night? Not a chance.

Florida was not losing that game last night no matter what. It was anti-climactic though because it wasn't the game it should have been. (Ps, word is that Ginn hurt his foot on the touchdown CELEBRATION?! What a waste.)

I just wish Florida had to play Boise State now :)

I apologize for anything I said last night that was inappropriate. Believe me when I say it, I was freaking hammered. :o

Coach Pants 01-09-2007 10:47 AM

"If Ted Ginn Jr. didn't get hurt OSU would've won 42-41 because he would've had 4 kickoff returns for td's. Boooooo hooooo i'm a big ten homer."

ddthetide 01-09-2007 11:08 AM

i said from the time the match-ups were announced, that osu, michigan and nd were playing the Fastest teams they played all year.
osu had NOT played a defense with that kind of speed. ted ginn would not have made much difference because smith could not have gotten him the ball.
this also proves how bad the big 10 is. the SEC sent 9of 12 teams to bowls and finished 6-3.

let me add this. 6-6 teams have NO business in bowl games. Bama had NO business in a bowl game.

Congrats gators!
ROLL TIDE !!

brianwspencer 01-09-2007 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Cajungator26
I apologize for anything I said last night that was inappropriate. Believe me when I say it, I was freaking hammered. :o

Oh no, it was fun -- I was actually surprised at how well you held yourself together discussing the game for as smashed as you were. You weren't even mean to me after I called you to taunt you after the first 16 seconds of the game (god I wish i could take that back :))

Bendaredonedat 01-09-2007 11:48 AM

I dont think that OSU is a fraud at all, they didnt play their best game. Florida with the exception of the opening kick off played really well, but dont think that was a fluke. Give Meyer 30+ days to prepare and he comes up with an outstanding offensive sceme. The defense has been consistent all year no one can argue that, the O has been off and on. The game plan to get the ball to the best playmakers on the team in the gaps of a zone defense without ever going down the field was great coaching. On the other side of the field Tressel goes for that 4th and short(not a good call) ,and the OSU defense never adjusted. Every aspect of that game was dominated by the Gators, very deserving

Samarta 01-09-2007 07:28 PM

Okay first things first...congrats cajun!!! How's the hangover?

There are a couple of topics in this thread that caught my attention.

First, while I agree that LSU could seriously be considered 1A in the rankings, I think that Boise State didn't get enough credit. Could they beat either Florida or LSU? probably not. But they did go undefeated and won a BCS game. A game that just may go down as the greatest bowl game ever played.

The next thing was the mention of Florida's speed. I think that is what beat Ohio State and would beat them everytime. The big ten teams simply don't play the type of game that can keep up with the speed teams like in the SEC or PAC 10.

I don't think there will ever be a playoff nor do I think it's necessary in order to pick the #1 team. This is really the first year since the BCS came about that there was even an argument after the conference champions were decided as to who should be playing. After all the games this year, if there was going to be an add one game, who would it be? I think the only two teams that could make an argument are Florida and Boise State. Don't get me wrong, I love LSU, but they don't deserve it.

Once again congrats to the Gator! Cajun that is :D

sham 01-09-2007 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Samarta
Okay first things first...congrats cajun!!! How's the hangover?

There are a couple of topics in this thread that caught my attention.

First, while I agree that LSU could seriously be considered 1A in the rankings, I think that Boise State didn't get enough credit. Could they beat either Florida or LSU? probably not. But they did go undefeated and won a BCS game. A game that just may go down as the greatest bowl game ever played.

The next thing was the mention of Florida's speed. I think that is what beat Ohio State and would beat them everytime. The big ten teams simply don't play the type of game that can keep up with the speed teams like in the SEC or PAC 10.

I don't think there will ever be a playoff nor do I think it's necessary in order to pick the #1 team. This is really the first year since the BCS came about that there was even an argument after the conference champions were decided as to who should be playing. After all the games this year, if there was going to be an add one game, who would it be? I think the only two teams that could make an argument are Florida and Boise State. Don't get me wrong, I love LSU, but they don't deserve it.

Once again congrats to the Gator! Cajun that is :D

A playoff is necessary. If UCLA does not upset SCal (probably a 1 in 10 shot), Florida gets no shot this year. In 2004, Auburn went 13-0 (damn tough to do in the SEC as everyone should realize by now) and never had a chance to play for number 1, and that was a team with 5 first round draft picks to the NFL. Same applied to Utah that year if I recall correctly. There are probably legitimate beefs more years than not.

Bogey 01-10-2007 02:54 AM

Tressel took a knife to a gun fight.


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