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SCUDSBROTHER 12-16-2006 10:49 PM

What in the f is wrong with this guy?
 
T.O. spit in a Falcon player's face.Said the guy "was aggravating him."Says he apologizes for that,but now he "has to move on." That was the most insincere apology I have ever heard."Well I apologize for that,and I got to move on now." The guy seems to have no clue that he is gunna be disciplined by the league for this.Simply an oblivious self-centered mess of a human being.Is this a sociopath? He seems to only think something is wrong(to do) when he is told it is wrong(to do.)For instance, this spitting incident is only wrong(for him to do) because others are upset about it.

timmgirvan 12-16-2006 11:27 PM

Sociopath seems right....and the NFL will give him a fine! Question is...when is the time for the Boys to draw the line??

timmgirvan 12-17-2006 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Dixie Porter
After the SB................

;)

for your sake,Dixie,I hope so!

King Glorious 12-17-2006 12:31 AM

If the league doesn't suspend him (which they won't), Bill Parcells or Jerry Jones should take it upon themselves to do it (which they won't either). To spit in the face of another man is totally disrespecting and I know that if I was a DB on the next team that played the Cowboys, Terrell Owens would get layed the **** out. I'd take a 15-yd penalty for having D'Angelo Hall's back. It's a brotherhood out there, a sort of fraternity. U should have respect for every other player that's out there between the lines. I understand there is trash talking that goes on and it can get under your skin. But anyone that's played sports knows that goes on from the time u start playing until u finish. U accept it as a part of the game. U get irritated, u show him up once u score on him, which Owens did twice. But u never spit on a man. Ever.

timmgirvan 12-17-2006 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by King Glorious
If the league doesn't suspend him (which they won't), Bill Parcells or Jerry Jones should take it upon themselves to do it (which they won't either). To spit in the face of another man is totally disrespecting and I know that if I was a DB on the next team that played the Cowboys, Terrell Owens would get layed the **** out. I'd take a 15-yd penalty for having D'Angelo Hall's back. It's a brotherhood out there, a sort of fraternity. U should have respect for every other player that's out there between the lines. I understand there is trash talking that goes on and it can get under your skin. But anyone that's played sports knows that goes on from the time u start playing until u finish. U accept it as a part of the game. U get irritated, u show him up once u score on him, which Owens did twice. But u never spit on a man. Ever.

I was gonna agree with ya,King....but then I remembered the Miami-FI game! TO has no respect for the game..so the NFL should hammer him!

Danzig 12-17-2006 08:10 AM

disgusting act.
i remember a few years back, there was an incredibly talented, but mentally offbalance, football player. everyone knew he had the goods, and that he needed tons of therapy--if not more help than that. he tried to commit suicide, really didn't want to play the game anymore. attempted suicide. think his name was underwood.
owens reminds me of that guy. i know many, including myself, have blown this guy off as being a megalomaniac or primadonna. maybe it's more than that, but his team(s) cares only about how many passes he can catch. exploitation, when they're done with him as a player, they won't ever think about him again.

timmgirvan 12-17-2006 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig188
disgusting act.
i remember a few years back, there was an incredibly talented, but mentally offbalance, football player. everyone knew he had the goods, and that he needed tons of therapy--if not more help than that. he tried to commit suicide, really didn't want to play the game anymore. attempted suicide. think his name was underwood.
owens reminds me of that guy. i know many, including myself, have blown this guy off as being a megalomaniac or primadonna. maybe it's more than that, but his team(s) cares only about how many passes he can catch. exploitation, when they're done with him as a player, they won't ever think about him again.

Zeiggy: we all know what a compassionate conservative I am::) but this guy has gone way beyond needing help on a couch...he is pulling the strings...and everyones' dancing cuz he can bring the Ring! I thinks he's made 50-80 mill while thoroughly enjoying his ministrations in the public eye. The onus isn't on the Cowboys or the NFL, it's on TO. It's great to be a victim.

hoovesupsideyourhead 12-17-2006 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by timmgirvan
Zeiggy: we all know what a compassionate conservative I am::) but this guy has gone way beyond needing help on a couch...he is pulling the strings...and everyones' dancing cuz he can bring the Ring! I thinks he's made 50-80 mill while thoroughly enjoying his ministrations in the public eye. The onus isn't on the Cowboys or the NFL, it's on TO. It's great to be a victim.

the problem will be he cant bring the ring....no way the cowboys win the superbowl..sorry dixe..

pgardn 12-17-2006 08:23 PM

Very good athletes can be bipolar.
All the signs again. ONe minute he is signing a shirt for a competitors son. The next thing you know he is spitting in this same competitors face.

He is up, he is down, and he has a stage.
He does make it easier to dislike the Cowboys so that is the upside... the only upside I can figure.

pgardn 12-17-2006 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig188
disgusting act.
i remember a few years back, there was an incredibly talented, but mentally offbalance, football player. everyone knew he had the goods, and that he needed tons of therapy--if not more help than that. he tried to commit suicide, really didn't want to play the game anymore. attempted suicide. think his name was underwood.
owens reminds me of that guy. i know many, including myself, have blown this guy off as being a megalomaniac or primadonna. maybe it's more than that, but his team(s) cares only about how many passes he can catch. exploitation, when they're done with him as a player, they won't ever think about him again.

Ricky Williams is another. He has huge problems.

timmgirvan 12-17-2006 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by pgardn
Very good athletes can be bipolar.
All the signs again. ONe minute he is signing a shirt for a competitors son. The next thing you know he is spitting in this same competitors face.

He is up, he is down, and he has a stage.
He does make it easier to dislike the Cowboys so that is the upside... the only upside I can figure.

Bipolar...ScmiPolar...what's wrong with just saying the guy's a RICHARD Not hammerin you Pgardn,but not everyones' condition can't be fixed with a pill! How about some shock treatments for TO..to cure that sociopathological behavior of his??

timmgirvan 12-17-2006 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by pgardn
Ricky Williams is another. He has huge problems.

It's called DOPE for a REASON!!

pgardn 12-17-2006 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by timmgirvan
It's called DOPE for a REASON!!

Its called self medicating. I could go into some of the most bizarre stuff he did at UT. One minute, he his doing all this research on Doak Walker giving this absolutely amazing speech showing great intellect, written totally by him. No one else involved. Shut himself in his room for a week, rewrote it, and it was amazing. A month later he has all his clothes all over the ground in his apartment with left over Chinese food a week old mixed in and his sister has to come over and clean up for him and drive him around...

Not quite a simple as he is a loser doper. He is ultimately responsible for not taking his medication, because he likes his highs, but the lows... you would be suprised how many people are like this. I guarantee you have coworkers who have some of these traits... well I should not guarantee... you get the picture.

31lengths 12-17-2006 08:59 PM

you would think he woulda learned from when Bill Romanowski spit in his face a few years back. terrible.

timmgirvan 12-17-2006 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by pgardn
Its called self medicating. I could go into some of the most bizarre stuff he did at UT. One minute, he his doing all this research on Doak Walker giving this absolutely amazing speech showing great intellect, written totally by him. No one else involved. Shut himself in his room for a week, rewrote it, and it was amazing. A month later he has all his clothes all over the ground in his apartment with left over Chinese food a week old mixed in and his sister has to come over and clean up for him and drive him around...

Not quite a simple as he is a loser doper. He is ultimately responsible for not taking his medication, because he likes his highs, but the lows... you would be suprised how many people are like this. I guarantee you have coworkers who have some of these traits... well I should not guarantee... you get the picture.

Pgardn: I could possibly understand Rickys' problem(take the damn medicine) but using grass isn't self medicating...it's smoking DOPE. He seems like a nice kid..I have 4 nice kids...some drink some don't. TO is a self-absorbed butthead, and people are gonna get what he's dishing until they've had enough!

SentToStud 12-17-2006 09:32 PM

I remember 6-7 years ago there was a defensive lineman from the Chicago Bears they found walking through the snow with no shoes or jacket ... Alonzo Spellman. Now he was a sick man. Owens just seems to be an as.s who takes all the attention he can until he is punished. Talented player for sure but he'll crash again soon.

timmgirvan 12-17-2006 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by SentToStud
I remember 6-7 years ago there was a defensive lineman from the Chicago Bears they found walking through the snow with no shoes or jacket ... Alonzo Spellman. Now he was a sick man. Owens just seems to be an as.s who takes all the attention he can until he is punished. Talented player for sure but he'll crash again soon.

S2S: wasn't there a thing on ESPN this week about Spellman? Did you see it? It was a long fall,man!

pgardn 12-17-2006 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by timmgirvan
Pgardn: I could possibly understand Rickys' problem(take the damn medicine) but using grass isn't self medicating...it's smoking DOPE. He seems like a nice kid..I have 4 nice kids...some drink some don't. TO is a self-absorbed butthead, and people are gonna get what he's dishing until they've had enough!

Sure it is, and it definitely is in his case. Just like people who drink too much to hide from reality. Their world is too tough, so change your brain chemistry and change the perceived world. Dope, alchohlism, pretty much the same thing in my book.

timmgirvan 12-17-2006 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by pgardn
Sure it is, and it definitely is in his case. Just like people who drink too much to hide from reality. Their world is too tough, so change your brain chemistry and change the perceived world. Dope, alchohlism, pretty much the same thing in my book.

Your book is a lot like my book! It is the succeeding genrations' curse that their parents tried to do too much for them,thereby denied them the needed skills to survive. 2 "hybrid" generations....have you heard that before??

SentToStud 12-17-2006 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by timmgirvan
S2S: wasn't there a thing on ESPN this week about Spellman? Did you see it? It was a long fall,man!

I did not see it but remember it very well. He was roamimg around for hours; some of it was caught on tape and shown on TV. I remember Mike Singletary helped "rescue" him. It was awful.

pgardn 12-17-2006 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by timmgirvan
Your book is a lot like my book! It is the succeeding genrations' curse that their parents tried to do too much for them,thereby denied them the needed skills to survive. 2 "hybrid" generations....have you heard that before??

I have not.

But I do agree that some parents need to understand the idea is to help your kids learn how to exist in a world that is (I think) very fluid and much more difficult that the world I grew up in. They need to understand they are going to live in a global world, and the ability to understand the way the world they are living in works, is a great advantage.

Just making it easier by bailing kids out of every problem they face, will hurt them in the long run. just my pesos worth.

timmgirvan 12-17-2006 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by pgardn
I have not.

But I do agree that some parents need to understand the idea is to help your kids learn how to exist in a world that is (I think) very fluid and much more difficult that the world I grew up in. They need to understand they are going to live in a global world, and the ability to understand the way the world they are living in works, is a great advantage.

Just making it easier by bailing kids out of every problem they face, will hurt them in the long run. just my pesos worth.

P: impossible job for parents! Frenetic is a word I'd use rather than fluid

repent 12-17-2006 11:12 PM

TO is a typical liberal.

They have no concept of restraint or civic responsibility.
they just act upon impulse without regard for the consequences of their actions.

Dont get me wrong, he has every right to play ball and act as he wishes.
but dont be surprised when he behaves like this.
he is a liberal and their behaivor is unfortunate.



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repent 12-17-2006 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by pgardn
I have not.

But I do agree that some parents need to understand the idea is to help your kids learn how to exist in a world that is (I think) very fluid and much more difficult that the world I grew up in. They need to understand they are going to live in a global world, and the ability to understand the way the world they are living in works, is a great advantage.

Just making it easier by bailing kids out of every problem they face, will hurt them in the long run. just my pesos worth.


thats just a crutch f*ck ups use as an excuse.

Im not a kid anymore, but I was not too long ago and Im telling the world is not that difficult.
everyone has choices.
you can make the right ones for yourself(which are sometimes harder) or you can be a f*ck up(which is sometimes easier).


maybe in other parts of the world, life is difficult.
but not in America.
we can make anything we want for ourselves and its up to each individual to decide.

I want to go to work every day and gamble on horses with the money I earn.
so thats what I do.
simple as that.



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timmgirvan 12-17-2006 11:34 PM

Repent: As blessed as I am to have great parents and a good education, it still wasn't that easy!

SCUDSBROTHER 12-18-2006 03:51 AM

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Originally Posted by repent
TO is a typical liberal.

They have no concept of restraint or civic responsibility.
they just act upon impulse without regard for the consequences of their actions.

Dont get me wrong, he has every right to play ball and act as he wishes.
but dont be surprised when he behaves like this.
he is a liberal and their behaivor is unfortunate.



Repent

Seems like a self-centered LIBERTARIAN to me.

31lengths 12-18-2006 04:34 PM

anyone know where to find Owens' comments or quotes after he was spit on by Romo?

repent 12-19-2006 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by timmgirvan
Repent: As blessed as I am to have great parents and a good education, it still wasn't that easy!


well Tim,
Im not sure what diffiiculties you exactly encountered along the way, but you seem like a smart guy and Im sure you figured it out.

all i am saying is that if you do the right thing for yourself, its relatively easy to get what you want.
most problems ppl have are brought upon by themselves.

the reason the white trash redkneck with 6 kids by the age of 25 is struggling is b/c the loser is too stupid or irresponsible to use birth control.
the reason the crack addict living off of the govnt is struggling is b/c he is too damn stupid to stop doing crack.

ppl have choices in this country, and you can be whatever you want to be.
thats all I am saying.


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