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smartyalex 12-15-2006 10:57 PM

Most Lousy Jockeys of 2006. POLL!!!
 
While we're ending a rollercoaster year in racing......please state your top three lousy Jockeys of the year. Then of the three please state your "Most Disappointing Jockey Of the Year". I think this should be an award in my own opinion!!! Boy, I can't wait to hear the nominees!!!!!

hoovesupsideyourhead 12-15-2006 11:02 PM

blame yourself ..you picked the wrong horse...they all ride the same...

smartyalex 12-15-2006 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead
blame yourself ..you picked the wrong horse...they all ride the same...


Damn Hooves....you know what??? You're right. Thanks for the "eye-opener"!:confused:

hoovesupsideyourhead 12-15-2006 11:18 PM

sorry alex...go on ..there are many i could name that have beat me ...but ..think about this...the trainer tell the jockeys what to do...then the horse does what he wants..lol some get times it all falls in line ..and you get the ride you want...on a side note how many trainers speak conversational spanish....hmmmmmmmm

Scav 12-15-2006 11:25 PM

Shane Laviolette

hoovesupsideyourhead 12-15-2006 11:29 PM

keepin it real scuds....lmfao

hoovesupsideyourhead 12-15-2006 11:34 PM

my fave money jock of all time juvinal diiaz..big time jock in the midwest he would stiff a 1/9 shot then sighn your program...then tell you who would win the next race he was in ..exactly..this is true....he retired a few yeard back has about 150 acres in ocala now..lol:D

smartyalex 12-15-2006 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead
sorry alex...go on ..there are many i could name that have beat me ...but ..think about this...the trainer tell the jockeys what to do...then the horse does what he wants..lol some get times it all falls in line ..and you get the ride you want...on a side note how many trainers speak conversational spanish....hmmmmmmmm


No problem Hooves:) It's just that this was a very frustrating year amongst our stable. I hate to "drop names" but we had a rather TINY jock who couldn't seem to follow directions all the time. It burn't all the horseman in the barn up! I can say this is probably why I started this thread to begin with. However, I do know IT'S NOT ALWAYS THE JOCK!!!! But when you have a 5' 100 pound jock that doesn't EVER try to build any upper body mass and never reads the form or study his opponents....it eats you alive. There isn't any drive as "Laffit" had in the day. I guess that as well as everything else has gone to the wayside in horse racing!!!

Scav 12-15-2006 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead
juvinal diiaz..big time jock in the midwest

Big time and Juvy Diaz should NEVER be used in the same sentence. He was good at Arlington though

saucon17 12-16-2006 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Scav
Big time and Juvy Diaz should NEVER be used in the same sentence. He was good at Arlington though

Is he the owner of Jockey Club Farm in Ocala which pinhooks
a lot of horses.

SCUDSBROTHER 12-16-2006 12:05 AM

If you think Flores has ridden the 2nd half of the Hwd meet anywhere near the same as he rode in the 1st half of the meet,then you're delusional.The guy has been stuck on 13 wins at the meet for a while.Hooves,they gotta have the horse,but they can sure f it up when they do have it.There is no lack of talent with this guy.No way.No,when this guy is confident(and things are clicking) he is one of the best riders in the world.This guy can fall into a funk,and he seems to really struggle to come out of it.Everything seemed to change for this guy on November 24th in the 3rd race.He hasn't been the same since that hideous ride on Optari in the Generous Stakes.That ride on Marked Warrior last Saturday was simply pathetic.This has to be the most inconsistent rider in the country.Both rides were on horses trained by Chatlos.A tough meet for Don.

The three lousiest jocks? This is easy.There was a stakes Desormeaux won on the Delta Jackpot Card(2 races before the big race.)There were two fools that set that thing up for him by totally destroying their horses up front in that race.Then,in the Delta Jackpot,some guy totally quarterhorsed his horse to the front,and set a pace that no horse could survive.Whoever those guys were,they are by far the worst,and the guy who ruined his horse up front in the D JACKPOT is the most disappointing jockey of the year.All Louisiana based jocks(I think.)I'LL leave it at that.Very bad riding that night.

saucon17 12-16-2006 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
While I agree with you for the most part, jocks do have somewhat an impact on what goes on. You can't tell me Johnny V, or Gomez ride the same as Clive Beech (Finger Lakes jock, and trust me, you'll be able to pick his style out right away).

Beech riding style is a sight to behold. You have to wonder what the
horse is thinking when this guy riding him. Poor horse.

saucon17 12-16-2006 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER
The three lousiest jocks? This is easy.There was a stakes Desormeaux won on the Delta Jackpot Card(2 races before the big race.)There were two fools that set that thing up for him by totally destroying their horses up front in that race.Then,in the Delta Jackpot,some guy totally quarterhorsed his horse to the front,and set a pace that no horse could survive.Whoever those guys were,they are by far the worst,and the guy who ruined his horse up front in the D JACKPOT is the most disappointing jockey of the year.All Louisiana based jocks(I think.)I'LL leave it at that.Very bad riding that night.

The jockey in Delta Jackpot was Jamie Theriot on a horse for
vacationing Cole Norman.

In Kent D's race one jockey I Know was Donnie Meche on
Appealing Zophie

saucon17 12-16-2006 12:28 AM

One my best angles at the Finger is Beech off. How does this
dude get a occasional mount from big stables is unreal.

cmorioles 12-16-2006 04:19 AM

I'm not sure I even know the names of three jockeys.

Byebyemermaid 12-16-2006 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
While I agree with you for the most part, jocks do have somewhat an impact on what goes on. You can't tell me Johnny V, or Gomez ride the same as Clive Beech (Finger Lakes jock, and trust me, you'll be able to pick his style out right away).

No order

Robbie Albarado, I despise the man as a jock. He gets horses beat, and I can never catch the guy.

Chantal Sutherland, an easy target, and an obvious one. But in all reality, she isn't really a good jock, plain and simple. She's hot, but she can't ride a lick.

Kent D., besides being an ass hole, I can't stand the guy as a rider.

My most disappointing was, and always has been Jose Santos. For some reason the guy always seems to be on a horse I like, and I just can not get him home.

I always refer to him as Jamaican beef patty maan.

Hickory Hill Hoff 12-16-2006 08:13 AM

KENTY D. ride in the SWORD DANCER @ THE SPA...
COST ME $$$

Danzig 12-16-2006 08:44 AM

kent desormeaux ought to be included on any list made.

Sightseek 12-16-2006 09:04 AM

We should start a thread, 2006 Most Memorable Moments (good and bad) of Kent D.

bellsbendboy 12-16-2006 09:13 AM

There are only five riders EVER who have a positive R.O.I. while racing on turf.

Two of them are Kent Desormeaux and Robbie Albarado! BBB

Hickory Hill Hoff 12-16-2006 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by bellsbendboy
There are only five riders EVER who have a positive R.O.I. while racing on turf.

Two of them are Kent Desormeaux and Robbie Albarado! BBB

That may change in the future with more rides like that one in the Sword Dancer :rolleyes:

paisjpq 12-16-2006 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Danzig188
kent desormeaux ought to be included on any list made.

any worst list should begin and end with him...


OT love your new siggy and avatar...a friend and I use that line all the time.

Danzig 12-16-2006 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by paisjpq
any worst list should begin and end with him...


OT love your new siggy and avatar...a friend and I use that line all the time.

lol
thanks! we use plenty of lines from that...especially ohhhhh fuuuuuuudge. and of course you used up all the glue ON PURPOSE.
funny movie, and a must see at least once during the holidays. i know some think it's overdone, but once a year is perfect.

Coach Pants 12-16-2006 09:44 AM

Mark Guidry

2Hot4TV 12-16-2006 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead
sorry alex...go on ..there are many i could name that have beat me ...but ..think about this...the trainer tell the jockeys what to do...then the horse does what he wants..lol some get times it all falls in line ..and you get the ride you want...on a side note how many trainers speak conversational spanish....hmmmmmmmm

Had to LMFAO about the conversational spanish. We had a late running sprinter that one of the owners wanted to make sure that the rider would ride him that way and had a long conversation with the Subitute trainer (Our trainer missed the race because of the Northridge Quake), The only thing I saw was alot of bobbleheading from the rider and the guy saddling our horse. Gates opened and we went to the lead. I'm still LOL.

dalakhani 12-16-2006 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by bellsbendboy
There are only five riders EVER who have a positive R.O.I. while racing on turf.

Two of them are Kent Desormeaux and Robbie Albarado! BBB

BBB-

Lets not let the FACTS get in the way. Nice stat.

ArlJim78 12-16-2006 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Danzig188
lol
thanks! we use plenty of lines from that...especially ohhhhh fuuuuuuudge. and of course you used up all the glue ON PURPOSE.
funny movie, and a must see at least once during the holidays. i know some think it's overdone, but once a year is perfect.

one of my favorites, holiday or otherwise. just watched last night.

has anyone ever noticed some of the faux curse words that the father uses when he is downstairs working on the furnace? A lot just sound like gibberish, then occaisonally there seems to be actual words. One that comes to mind, I swear he calls the furnace a "mundane noodle"

also, who could forget the playing of taps that was heard after the lamp fiasco.

great writing!

Danzig 12-16-2006 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by ArlJim78
one of my favorites, holiday or otherwise. just watched last night.

has anyone ever noticed some of the faux curse words that the father uses when he is downstairs working on the furnace? A lot just sound like gibberish, then occaisonally there seems to be actual words. One that comes to mind, I swear he calls the furnace a "mundane noodle"

also, who could forget the playing of taps that was heard after the lamp fiasco.

great writing!

every part of that movie kills me. i bought the collectors edition dvd, and they have the now grown kids from the movie answering questions, telling stories, etc. the red haired bullly looks exactly the same!
i remember thinking 'you'll be sorry if something happens to me' about my parents when i got in trouble. lol @ soap poisoning. i keep planning to buy the book, hasn't happened yet.

paisjpq 12-16-2006 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Danzig188
every part of that movie kills me. i bought the collectors edition dvd, and they have the now grown kids from the movie answering questions, telling stories, etc. the red haired bullly looks exactly the same!
i remember thinking 'you'll be sorry if something happens to me' about my parents when i got in trouble. lol @ soap poisoning. i keep planning to buy the book, hasn't happened yet.

when I was a kid I never liked the movie very well, but as an adult it kills me...
the 24 hour marathon (severe overkill IMO) will be on TNT (I think) all day on x-mas...so everyone should be able to catch it once or twice

Danzig 12-16-2006 10:41 AM

i never saw it til a few years ago. yeah, we've had that marathon on before, just to watch one running tho. i can't imagine having it on over and over. or anything else over and over for that matter.

dalakhani 12-16-2006 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
Oh, okay, so I guess they don't EVER give bad rides.

Sure they give bad rides. They all do. But the way some tell it, they never give good ones either. And when a jock gets hit with that, they can never do anything right.

Its just like Gomez. We had one person on here that said he was "inconsistent". What does that mean? That he doesnt win EVERY race? He is the number one jockey in the country!

Kent gives bad rides. He gives bizarre rides. But at the same time, he give textbook rides.

A perfect example is Premium tap. Gave a great ride to get the horse his first grade 1. Any mention on here? Of course not. He completely blows the ride in the BC prep. He gets lambasted. Comes back a few weeks later and gives a great ride in the Clark. Any mention of the great ride?

Kent and Albarado do a fine job.

Fanofthejuiceguys 12-16-2006 11:11 AM

I can answer this question with two words:

Mike Smith

ArlJim78 12-16-2006 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Danzig188
every part of that movie kills me. i bought the collectors edition dvd, and they have the now grown kids from the movie answering questions, telling stories, etc. the red haired bullly looks exactly the same!
i remember thinking 'you'll be sorry if something happens to me' about my parents when i got in trouble. lol @ soap poisoning. i keep planning to buy the book, hasn't happened yet.

Me too, i find the entire thing solid beginning to end, hilarious as well as charming. i love the little soap poisoning segment when he comes back blind and the parents are so grief stricken. "i told you not to use Life Boy"

Danzig 12-16-2006 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by ArlJim78
Me too, i find the entire thing solid beginning to end, hilarious as well as charming. i love the little soap poisoning segment when he comes back blind and the parents are so grief stricken. "i told you not to use Life Boy"

the funniest part of that is that everyone knows lava man is the worst. but then, i never cared for irish spring either.
and there were times that i knew either myself or my brother would be killed by a vengeful father.

i think i am responsible for a majority of my mothers grey hair.


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