Fastest horse ever!
 

No Doubt! The only way to beat this horse is to put 150lbs on him. The weight in the Cigar Mile was total bull. A 3yo that is a Gr 3 winner gives pounds to last years BC Sprint winner and a G1 winner this year plus they gave him a 2lb break cause he was a 3yo. If Frankel trained the horse he would of scratched him.

Randall,
Now maybe you understand the point of what I said.;)

God Oracle you're annoying sometimes. This guy doesn't speak for me. I can't control what these people say. What a stupid example of trying to prove your point.

Common I got to be bias look at my name. It would be like selling fords and driving a chevy. I been on this horses wagon for a longtime. I just don't think people want to see a super horse come from godophin, and that has alot to do with peoples negative remarks about this horse. I am not talking about you Oracle I know that your not knocking him but just trying to convey the times on the undercard.

As are you Randall.
My point was that so many are using the raw time as a basis when the raw time was obviously a function of the track surface.
Talk about his ease in winning, the gears he showed, that he beat a decent(if small) field.
But the minute the 3rd race was over today, the odds on a sub 1:33 mile were 2-5.
Its my whole point, and I don't think a difficult one to grasp.

lmao,
ppl are past the whole godolphin thing at this point.
they have been involved in racing for far too long for the racing public to ignore one of their horses b/c of the ownership.

hes not the fastest horse ever though.
got a lot of running to do to obtain that title pal.



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Yea your right, good thing Gomez didn't bust the whip on his a s s and break the world record.

He ran before my time but you guys forgot about a horse named Dr.Fager.
Discreet Cat might be our Dr. Fager but legend has it that the old Dr. was very fast and he performed over multiple racetracks.

lol
yeah legend was right.

like I said, DCat has a lot of running to do before he is mentioned with the horses we generally think of as the fastest like Dr Fager, Coaltown and Tom Fool.

hell,
he has a lot to do until he is in Ghostzapper's league.


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What made Gzap so unique was his ability to run huge at so many distances. He was a true every distance horse. He could've won a Grade I at any distance. Remarkable horse....Wanted to see some Turf with him.

Nice call DC is on his way with multiple wins in Dubai/NY now back to Dubai all I just really find this horse a once in a lifetime animal, i remember a few months back when people said silver train would beat him, not only did that not happen he ran him into the ground and gave pounds to him

yeah,
and I guess he actually did win a G1 at every important distance
6f(well, 6.5), 8, and 10f.

that spectrum about covers it all.

freak.


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Good point, he was giving weight here to every single horse despite only an allowance win and the Jerome since coming to the States. That's respect.

hell DC still as to a bit more to be in Dubai Millennium air

Who cares how fast he is. I never understood this point. If a horse wins wins wins and wins Graded races then who cares what his times are. Cat beat a very decent field today. Granted that Silver Train is not what he used to be and BOS was racing for only the 2nd time in 11 months. But they are Grade I winners so u can say he beat Grade winners.

THe weight issue wasnt all that big of a deal. I dont think a 3 year old should ever give weight to an older grade I winner. But it wasnt like he was giving 15 lbs.

My post was not a knock on Discreet Cat. I think has to be the potential to be one of the greats. Racing is different in this day of age. Hopefully he runs enough next season to solidify himself as one of the all time GREATS.

In the other thread i put GZ is the only horse that might of been able to keep up with DC. But if Castellano decided to pull the trigger too soon and start waving his finger 50 yards from the wire he wouldn't have a chance

Let's keep him in training first.

I don't know if he is a 10 panel horse, but he isn't headstrong so that's a plus. I'll say this. If he's in form, there isn't a horse around right now who will beat him at a flat mile.

I beg to differ.....I would say it was an inexcplicable job by the racing secretary. Don't get me wrong, Discreet Cat is obviously the best horse in today's race, and I couldn't care less about weight, but for him to give four pounds ( six on scale ) the last year's BC Sprint, the year's Met and Tom Fool, winner is utterly ridiculous.

If you ask me it sounds like he asked the connections of the other horses what weight assignments they would consider fair. If Frankel trained Discreet Cat he would have stayed in the barn.

And let me add.....am I the only person on this board that knows anything about this game?????

I didn't say I thought it was right, simply that he did have to give the weight.

Hey, I think I know a little. But your take on Frankel was funny. He would be bitchin up a storm. But NO WAY should a 3 year old give weight to Grade I older horses.

You missed my special " late addition " to the post.

And I did it JUST for you!

That explains why you just copied what I had already said, BRILLIANT! You are a one in a million!!!

4 lbs is no big deal at all. I wouldnt even mention it being a factor at all.

Why is he giving pounds to Grade I winners as a 3yr old is beyond me. Regardless of whether you think it will make a difference in the final time, it doesn't make sense to me.

I know....it was your saying it was " respect " that I was disagreeing with....though I guess on second thought respect is probably exactly the right word. Just not the right reason for weighing horses in Handicaps ( which should be eliminated, at least in Grade 1s, if you ask me ).

Too funny.

That is what we are saying. It doesnt make sense as to why--but 4 lbs isnt going to determine the winner or the final time.

Actually this is the first post of your's that I have read so I couldn't have copied you.

The final line was a joke....by the way. I'm guessing Randall, the person I posted to, got it.

I think Silver Train ran a Grade 1 winning race today. Unfortunately he faced DIscreet Cat who is a better horse.

BOS and ST ran Grade I races today. They ran very good. But Cat is just better.

I agree. Silver Train took on Discreet Cat in the fastest part of the race and ran probably as well as he ever has. Badge of Silver, who one has to give credit for coming back from the dead many times, was a very lucky second.

Well it seems we're all in agreement then. Before this race I was trying to predict which horse would run well and which would be off, between Silver Train and Badge of Silver, and as it turns out they both answered the call on the big day. Man did Silver train tear it up. For a moment I thought I saw BOS with enough momentum to possible get past Discreet Cat. That moment closed quickly.
That's a race we won't soon forget.

Absolutely. Let's burn all clocks and just call them all winners. That's genius.

you are aware that dr fager smashed the world record while his jock sat on him like a statue the entire race, aren't you? if you think a midget hitting a horse with a stick translates into far faster times, you might want to find a new sport to follow...

Nice. I'm still waiting on yours.

Seriously, is there anything that makes you feel more correct than having Dixie disagree with you?

we should be so lucky..

Ummmm.....let me get back to you on that one.

After reading that first line I swear i could hear a rim shot.

Now Discrete Cat will be forever overbet at 1-9 type odds. He has to lose at some point.