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ADJMK 08-12-2021 12:03 PM

Thursday at the Spa
 
Saratoga, Race 1, $0.60 PK5 2,3,6,8 / 1,4,7 / 5 / 1,5 / 5,7,9 $43.20

jms62 08-12-2021 12:10 PM

Irad "The Furnace" Ortiz fails again on the Big Favorite.

knickslions2 08-12-2021 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 1156877)
Irad "The Furnace" Ortiz fails again on the Big Favorite.

Ya 8-5 was crazy on that one. I know there was experience but didn’t like that horse at all. I was on the 7 but looking back pissed I missed that winner. Horse had good works for a trainer that can get them running. Davis did nice job getting near front there

ADJMK 08-12-2021 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by knickslions2 (Post 1156878)
Ya 8-5 was crazy on that one. I know there was experience but didn’t like that horse at all. I was on the 7 but looking back pissed I missed that winner. Horse had good works for a trainer that can get them running. Davis did nice job getting near front there

Mad at myself for not singling the 3. If you watched work on XBTV he looked like a $million with a beautiful stride. At least I had $20 win so I have money to blow back today.

ADJMK 08-12-2021 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ADJMK (Post 1156880)
Mad at myself for not singling the 3. If you watched work on XBTV he looked like a $million with a beautiful stride. At least I had $20 win so I have money to blow back today.

I lalso missed exacta as left your 7 out of exacta. Thought a Keen Ice would want more distance

knickslions2 08-12-2021 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ADJMK (Post 1156880)
Mad at myself for not singling the 3. If you watched work on XBTV he looked like a $million with a beautiful stride. At least I had $20 win so I have money to blow back today.

Nice job.

Dahoss 08-12-2021 01:18 PM

No one wants to talk about what a cheating POS Mike Maker is. It’s hilarious.

jms62 08-12-2021 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 1156883)
No one wants to talk about what a cheating POS Mike Maker is. It’s hilarious.

And no one will ever dare talk about the Owners that use these trainers.

moses 08-12-2021 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 1156883)
No one wants to talk about what a cheating POS Mike Maker is. It’s hilarious.

Claimed for $35K a couple weeks ago and just won $55K in a stakes race. This game is so easy. Why doesn’t everyone do what Maker does?

ADJMK 08-12-2021 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 1156883)
No one wants to talk about what a cheating POS Mike Maker is. It’s hilarious.

Amazing how he gets these horses to consistently stretch out when other top trainers never could. He must have special carrots in his barn

Dahoss 08-12-2021 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 1156884)
And no one will ever dare talk about the Owners that use these trainers.

It’s embarrassing. I haven’t heard one person in the media anywhere mention all of the horses Maker has won with this meet that make no sense.

I’m no Baffert fan but is he any worse than Mike Maker?

moses 08-12-2021 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 1156887)
It’s embarrassing. I haven’t heard one person in the media anywhere mention all of the horses Maker has won with this meet that make no sense.

I’m no Baffert fan but is he any worse than Mike Maker?

NYRA tried to ban one. The other trains horses for Michael Dubb. This industry us screwed longterm.

Dahoss 08-12-2021 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by moses (Post 1156885)
Claimed for $35K a couple weeks ago and just won $55K in a stakes race. This game is so easy. Why doesn’t everyone do what Maker does?

Quote:

Originally Posted by ADJMK (Post 1156886)
Amazing how he gets these horses to consistently stretch out when other top trainers never could. He must have special carrots in his barn

Not only win…he crushed them. That horse has never ran anywhere near that and the trainer he claimed from can train.

No one will say a bad word about him though because he’s unassuming.

Dahoss 08-12-2021 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by moses (Post 1156888)
NYRA tried to ban one. The other trains horses for Michael Dubb. This industry us screwed longterm.

:tro:

We deserve better

ADJMK 08-12-2021 01:34 PM

Saratoga, Race 4, $1.00 PK3 1,5 / 7,9 / 2,4,6,7,10 $20.00

knickslions2 08-12-2021 02:21 PM

Toga 5

$20 win 10
$20 dd
10/2,10

ADJMK 08-12-2021 02:22 PM

Saratoga, Race 5, $2.00 DBL 7,9 / 2,4,6,7,10 $20.00

jms62 08-12-2021 02:23 PM

Saratoga 5

$20 DBL 6/1,7

knickslions2 08-12-2021 02:44 PM

Toga 6

$20 win 2
$20 dd
2,10/11

jms62 08-12-2021 03:02 PM

4 was winning that race if not for the 2 IMO and I had no bet on either

knickslions2 08-12-2021 03:02 PM

Geeze the 2 was live there. I can’t get a break

knickslions2 08-12-2021 03:26 PM

Toga 7

$.50 pick 5

11
1,5,6
1,2,6,8,10,11
3,4,5,10,11,12

$54

Dahoss 08-12-2021 03:31 PM

Saratoga 7th
$1 pick 4
4,11/ 3,4,6/ 3,4,6,10/ 2,3,12

$75 win 11

$15 double
11/ 3,4,6

ADJMK 08-12-2021 03:37 PM

Boy am I glad I passed that race- Take it Off ????

Dahoss 08-12-2021 03:37 PM

LMAO

I've officially seen enough.

knickslions2 08-12-2021 03:39 PM

Just wasting money on this track. It’s like watching same race on reply. Whoever gets to lead wins. Jose continues to not follow that script

Dahoss 08-12-2021 03:46 PM

So the trainer of that impossible horse that just won is a known cheater who fled California after he got caught and suspended. My theory is some of these guys have seen what Maker, et al have been doing and see that they can get away with whatever they want now.

I think we start to see some really weird results (even more than the last two days) as more and more barns start to try and keep up with all the juicing.

I had one foot out the door anyway but this meet has made me realize what a giant waste of time and money this sport has become. If you're a non gambler, it's fun and some of the stories are nice. But as a gambling game it has become impossible and I have never felt that way before. Too many obstacles against us as horseplayers.

moses 08-12-2021 04:05 PM

Saratoga 8
$10 win 3

$2 Pick 3
3 / 1,2,3,10,11 / 12

moses 08-12-2021 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 1156906)
So the trainer of that impossible horse that just won is a known cheater who fled California after he got caught and suspended. My theory is some of these guys have seen what Maker, et al have been doing and see that they can get away with whatever they want now.

I think we start to see some really weird results (even more than the last two days) as more and more barns start to try and keep up with all the juicing.

I had one foot out the door anyway but this meet has made me realize what a giant waste of time and money this sport has become. If you're a non gambler, it's fun and some of the stories are nice. But as a gambling game it has become impossible and I have never felt that way before. Too many obstacles against us as horseplayers.

I feel the same way but keep dumping money in.

knickslions2 08-12-2021 04:10 PM

Wow another front runner merry go round.

Dahoss 08-12-2021 04:11 PM

How long until the riders in the room understand there is a speed bias on the main?

Cheating trainers, stupid jocks and inconsistent steward decisions. Impossible to win.

Dahoss 08-12-2021 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by knickslions2 (Post 1156910)
Wow another front runner merry go round.

Yup...and no one seems to have figured it out

moses 08-12-2021 04:13 PM

Junior won so you know there’s a bias.

knickslions2 08-12-2021 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 1156912)
Yup...and no one seems to have figured it out

It’s been that way for three weeks. If I can see it they should

Dahoss 08-12-2021 04:34 PM

Now you’ve got Abel Cedillo stiffing his horse at Del Mar.

So much fun!

ADJMK 08-12-2021 04:58 PM

Saratoga, Race 10, $10.00 WPS 4 $30.00

May as well jump on the Maker train

jms62 08-12-2021 05:05 PM

My fault for putting my money in El Horno

jms62 08-12-2021 05:14 PM

.50 Tilt Trifecta Box 3-4-7-10-12

Dahoss 08-12-2021 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 1156902)
Saratoga 7th
$1 pick 4
4,11/ 3,4,6/ 3,4,6,10/ 2,3,12

$75 win 11

$15 double
11/ 3,4,6

You’d think I would have played the pick 3 after the pick 4 went up in flames. Especially because I liked the longshot winner of the 9th.

Nope

jms62 08-12-2021 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 1156920)
.50 Tilt Trifecta Box 3-4-7-10-12

Whip cream on s*h*i*t


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