AQU to Inner for 3 Days
 

Aqueduct will run main track races Friday, Saturday and Sunday on the Inner Track as repairs are made to the main...

Adjust your capping for Friday...

Was just gonna post this but Steve beat me to it.
Important factor to keep in mind will be the distance changes.
No 7f races on the inner track. Usually not many flat miles either as they start real close to the turn.
Make sure you pay attention to distance changes.

I guess those are known as the " Discreet Cat " rules.

I also think that it would be very likely that we have seen our last grass race here for the year. I was hoping for a little break in the weather and a few more. A couple of the last three years we had grass racing here into December. Looks like we got paid back by Mother Nature for those flukes.
Grass horses will be getting on the next vans to Florida and Fair Grounds, and many will be for sale cheap now.

As if 4 months wasn't enough already.

Can someone explain to me what Campo was thinking, scheduling FOUR races at a mile on the inner for Saturday? It's a completely unfair racing distance for more than a 6 horse field.

Its been warm enough for turf but the rain has done in the turf season in NY.

I was just thinking the same thing. It's too bad.

He was thinking that the races were going to be on the main...

The decision to go to the AQI came today after the 3rd race when the jocks were complaining that they wanted to stop the card... Trainers and mgmt and the jocks talked, the suggestion was made to go to the Inner for the weekend and everybody said, "Great idea..."

Gary Contessa just on ATRAB with us and explained how it unfolded at Ozone Park today. The main is waterlogged, and they've had no chance to work on it. He's coming back on the show at 6:30...

So the jocks were OK to ride the rest of today after they decided to switch to the inner for the following three days? What kind of BS is that from them?

The jocks are ready to cancel at the drop of a hat. Quite a bunch of team players.

Perhaps once NYRA told them they would use the inner tomorrow the main track miraculously got safe.

I think Contessa feels the track is safer than others are claiming.

Ahhh... well that makes sense, thanks steve. The races were full, which is a shame. Expect a ton of scratches out of those races.

I honestly have no problem with the inner, otherwise...

On the Down the Stretch Show on Capital OTB it sounds as if the Main Track may be questionable for longer than 3 days. Not good for the Cigar Mile.

Barclay Tagg entered Nobiz to run at Delta Downs next weekend in addition to the Remsen at Aqueduct. It appears he did this due to concern over the track conditions. It sounds like there are major issues with that track. I would not be shocked if Nobiz doesn't run in NY and Discreet Cat scratches.

NYRA is really going to look bad if both those horses don't go. There is no reason for them to not go all polytrack or cushion track at Aqueduct. They can keep the dirt at Saratoga and Belmont, but Aqueduct needs poly.

I kind of think that Discreet Cat is a win loose situation. If he goes, I expect few starters, if he doesn't it may add some. Question though, would the change of the track to inner have the same affect as turf to dirt in grading status? It is my understanding they would have to adjust the distance.

That is a good question. I don't know. Discreet Cat wants that grade 1 too. NYRA really needs to do a better job with their tracks. They had problems with the turf at Belmont the week of the Man O War and now the problems with Aqueduct. There are many things you can be cheap with but taking care of the tracks isn't one of them. I don't know how the situation will change with slot machines but they need to do something. This is really not acceptable for NY racing.

Well the weather hasn't been working in their favor either.

Weather should not be an issue. They are off a track for days in advance. There is something wrong with track. It obviously was not well taken care of. I heard that this is not a 3 day thing. There is a chance they won't go back to the main track at all this year.

the track is waterlogged--having an inner inside the main track would no doubt make drainage of the main track an issue.

and woodbine is already having problems with their poly, it's not holding up to the cold weather. so there would hopefully be no rush to put it at ny, which hasn't got the funds right now with their situation...

I wonder, is it just on the internet you make irresponsible statements like this? " It obviously was not well taken care of "? So, your an expert on track maintenance as well. Good to know.

I am an expert on knowing they didn't take care of the turf at belmont, and blamed a lack of money for the reason, and I am an expert on knowing that rain shouldn't cause a problem with a track for days.

They will not get back to the main track by next weeks races. When Discreet Cat and Nobiz don't show up, you will look like a fool. I know you or Oracle or one of you guys used to work for NYRA. Stop defending them. In my opinion horses are dying because they are too cheap to take care of their tracks.

Announced this morning that Discreet Cat is still a go, inner or outer track, they don't care.

Do you have a link for that story? I heard they won't run him if they don't like the track. I know Barclay Tagg has already said he won't run his 2yr old if he doesn't like the track.

You are a self-professed expert on many things...most of which have proven to be inaccurate over time. You are also part of a group of posters that have only come to this site to cause trouble and further a variety of personal agendas.

The simple fact is you run your mouth, so to speak, on the internet and have established zero credibility.

You actually said Nobizlikeshowbiz isn't running. This " he may not run " garbage means nothing. Every horse entered may not run.

What trainer does run a horse, especially an extremely valuable horse, on a track " he doesn't like "? Certainly not one as exceptional as the great Barclay Tagg.

You are a gambler. Gamblers have zero credibility. I love you guys when you are wrong you start coming up with personal things.

I have quite a few dollars invested in the business. Finally the horseman are starting to win out over the gamblers. Once NYRA is gone everyone will be happy, but most importantly the horses.

The Remsen is a nice race but hardly so prestigious that you'd skip a million dollar race where you would be the likely favorite for it and its $200,000 purse.

Once again, just making things up. I never said Nobiz isn't running. I am not his owner or trainer. How could I possibly know. I am not stupid enough to say such nonsense.

Here are the facts. Rain, just rain, caused Aqueduct to take off days from it's main track. Explain that.

They don't care about money with this horse. This is a very wealthy owner that wants to get to KY in May. Tagg wants to stay in NY. His assistant is heading out to CA that weekend and I doubt he wants to go to Delta Downs.

I'm then confused by this post...but then again I am a " gambler "...so what do I know. One thing I do know, unlike you I do have established credibility in this game as well as accountability for what I say.

Well even 2nd place in the Delta Jackpot and their ticket to the Derby is punched. It would give them the ability to campaign him however they wanted next year without worrying about purse sizes or graded status. Seems the right move to me and I highly doubt that an extra $480,000 for winning wouldn't factor in at all.

His ticket is already punched in terms of earning thanks to the Champagne. He would only need a 2nd or 3rd in one race to get there. If he couldn't do that he wouldn't be going to the KY Derby. The Remsen would be more than enough.

Money is not an issue with this horse. The only issue is safety and getting him to Florida healthy. I think he will likely go Holy Bull, Fountain of Youth, Wood or something that that with him. He is a very big horse though and he might just go the Barbaro route. I really think Tagg will go the same route he did with Funny Cide though. I would have to look at the race schedule but a race in Louisiana or Arkansas might be in there. 99% sure though they will try to go to the Wood with him, just like FC and just like they planned for Showing Up before he has a minor injury.

well, that post covers every possible route to the derby minus the west coast. that way, regardless of direction taken, you'll be RIGHT. lol how pathetic.

Actually it covers two routes.

Holy Bull-Arkansas or Louisiana-Wood

Holy Bull-Fountain of Youth-Wood.


Please show me the other routes. I wiould love to know how you read something more than that.

a most amusing thread this fine afternoon. you got your george w., who will argue anything and retire to the the comfort of the home his parents bought for his brother and his friends. then, of course, you have your 'throat.' throat will, we know, go to the point of looking up words in one or more dictionaries to argue a position.

Classic confrontation of "Who Cares" vs "Who Gives a Sh**."

sorry to interrupt. just letting you know how entertaining it's been.... good luck today.

well, fc ran in new york, there's that route.
than the arkansas route.
the louisiana route.
the florida route.
showing up ran in the lexington, so there's going thru ky.

again, nothing left but west coast. you're some prognosticator.

Do you need a lesson in reading?

My post says Showing Up was going to the wood but he got hurt.

Florida is in both the routes.
Funny Cide took the same route I pointed out. Holy Bull/Louisiana/Wood.

It is still just two routes. There is no other way to read that post.

He will go Holy Bull/Louisiana or Arkansas/Wood or Holy Bull/Fountain of Youth/Wood. A million things could change between now and then but I am pretty sure they are looking at Holy Bull-February 3 (it is 8f this year) then the Louisiana Derby-March 10, and then the Wood Memorial at Aqueduct which I believe is April 7.

This is all speculation, because who knows what will happen between now and then. But the Holy Bull is likely his first 2007 start.

The winner of the Remsen becomes instant stallion prospect.