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Alabama Stakes 01-09-2021 04:46 PM

NYRA bans Eric Guillot
 
He named a hoss Grape Soda, which apparently is racist in millennial speak. Hoss was claimed and renamed Respect For All. Truth is stranger than fiction

Dahoss 01-09-2021 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Alabama Stakes (Post 1148369)
He named a hoss Grape Soda, which apparently is racist in millennial speak. Hoss was claimed and renamed Respect For All. Truth is stranger than fiction

Why not at least try and get the facts before posting?

Grape Soda isn’t racist. Saying you named it in honor of Ken Rudolph and then making a racist comment about the horses workout shows what his intentions were. Once he got called on it he changed his tune.

Honestly....good riddance. He’s not funny and has been saying racist stuff for a long time.

Alabama Stakes 01-09-2021 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 1148372)
Why not at least try and get the facts before posting?

Grape Soda isn’t racist. Saying you named it in honor of Ken Rudolph and then making a racist comment about the horses workout shows what his intentions were. Once he got called on it he changed his tune.

Honestly....good riddance. He’s not funny and has been saying racist stuff for a long time.

Now I’m confused. Didn’t know he has a history of being racist.

Dahoss 01-09-2021 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Alabama Stakes (Post 1148374)
Now I’m confused. Didn’t know he has a history of being racist.

https://mobile.twitter.com/EricGuill...08689011798016

He tweeted this on January 1st about the horse.

Merlinsky 01-09-2021 10:02 PM

Wow apparently there's this gem: https://twitter.com/chevalnuit68/sta...85375596335109

Any likelihood of this one getting changed too? I love that he thinks he's got plausible deniability and is the victim, meanwhile there are screenshots of his shenanigans.

Alabama Stakes 01-09-2021 10:06 PM

Meanwhile Tampa running back just scored vs the Former Redskins and did a war chant afterwards hold his fingers above his head like feathers.

Dunbar 01-10-2021 05:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 1148372)
Why not at least try and get the facts before posting?

Grape Soda isn’t racist. Saying you named it in honor of Ken Rudolph and then making a racist comment about the horses workout shows what his intentions were. Once he got called on it he changed his tune.

Honestly....good riddance. He’s not funny and has been saying racist stuff for a long time.

From the Bloodhorse article:

"Originally the horse was named Kersetter before a Dec. 29 change at Guillot's suggestion to Grape Soda —which can be used as a racist term for a drink stereotypically associated with Black people." (emphasis added)

A check of Urban Dictionary confirms that "Grape Soda" is often used in a derogatory way.

cakes44 01-10-2021 05:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Merlinsky (Post 1148376)
Wow apparently there's this gem: https://twitter.com/chevalnuit68/sta...85375596335109

Any likelihood of this one getting changed too? I love that he thinks he's got plausible deniability and is the victim, meanwhile there are screenshots of his shenanigans.

This link takes care of it. Dude is a loser.

Dahoss 01-10-2021 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Dunbar (Post 1148378)
From the Bloodhorse article:

"Originally the horse was named Kersetter before a Dec. 29 change at Guillot's suggestion to Grape Soda —which can be used as a racist term for a drink stereotypically associated with Black people." (emphasis added)

A check of Urban Dictionary confirms that "Grape Soda" is often used in a derogatory way.

You’re missing my point. The name Grape Soda by itself probably wouldn’t have bothered people. It’s been a long time since I had some but grape soda is damn good.

Guillot can’t help himself because he a) thinks he’s funny and b) thinks saying racist things is edgy, so he sent out the tweet January 1st egging Rudolph on with the black fist emoji, etc. Ironically enough no one really pays attention to him so no one really caught wind of it until after the horse ran and he again opened his mouth.

Dahoss 01-10-2021 08:06 AM

More of Eric Guillot, the barely literate comedian

https://mobile.twitter.com/EricGuill...66833758052352

I like that people defending him want to bring up Dave Chappelle and Chris Rock and COMEDY routines.

I feel like I live in the twilight zone where half of the country is so phucking dumb that it makes my head hurt.

freddymo 01-10-2021 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 1148383)
More of Eric Guillot, the barely literate comedian

https://mobile.twitter.com/EricGuill...66833758052352

I like that people defending him want to bring up Dave Chappelle and Chris Rock and COMEDY routines.

I feel like I live in the twilight zone where half of the country is so phucking dumb that it makes my head hurt.

After years and countless hours, I deleted my Twitter account. I am tired of the nonsense, you have abhorrent behavior from so many it has just become more of a hassle then it is worth. Both Twitter and the people on it seem to be doing everything they can to destroy its value. I will continue to listen to ATR and follow racing without the need to be subjected to Ken Rudolph who is the worst and Eric Guillot who is a complete schmuck. I need less moronic stuff in my life not more.

Dahoss 01-10-2021 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by freddymo (Post 1148384)
After years and countless hours, I deleted my Twitter account. I am tired of the nonsense, you have abhorrent behavior from so many it has just become more of a hassle then it is worth. Both Twitter and the people on it seem to be doing everything they can to destroy its value. I will continue to listen to ATR and follow racing without the need to be subjected to Ken Rudolph who is the worst and Eric Guillot who is a complete schmuck. I need less moronic stuff in my life not more.

Yeah that’s the worst part of the whole thing. I’m not a Rudolph fan and Guillot has made him a sympathetic figure.

Kasept 01-10-2021 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 1148382)
Guillot can’t help himself because he a) thinks he’s funny and b) thinks saying racist things is edgy, so he sent out the tweet January 1st egging Rudolph on with the black fist emoji, etc. Ironically enough no one really pays attention to him so no one really caught wind of it until after the horse ran and he again opened his mouth.

100%. He's always played the fool for effect and can't discern what's offensive, hurtful or unacceptable.

freddymo 01-10-2021 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 1148385)
Yeah, that’s the worst part of the whole thing. I’m not a Rudolph fan, and Guillot has made him a sympathetic figure.

For two people like them to be making the news in racing for absolutely no reason at all, it has time to reflect on just how inane tweeter has become and see how damaging it. A marginal trainer with an off-putting sense of humor and a guy who has no business educating the public about the sport, at least on the handicapping side. How the heck is either the story?

casp0555 01-10-2021 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by cakes44 (Post 1148379)
This link takes care of it. Dude is a loser.

is, was, and will be....good riddance

Dahoss 01-10-2021 09:35 AM

I see former DT poster Cowgirlintexas aka Arletta is defending Guillot on twitter.

She’s always been a moron.

knickslions2 01-10-2021 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 1148389)
I see former DT poster Cowgirlintexas aka Arletta is defending Guillot on twitter.

She’s always been a moron.

:tro:

blackthroatedwind 01-10-2021 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by freddymo (Post 1148387)
For two people like them to be making the news in racing for absolutely no reason at all, it has time to reflect on just how inane tweeter has become and see how damaging it. A marginal trainer with an off-putting sense of humor and a guy who has no business educating the public about the sport, at least on the handicapping side. How the heck is either the story?

They aren't making news for "absolutely no reason at all" and it's not about an "off-putting sense of humor." It's about what somehow some people have deemed as acceptable that is COMPLETELY unacceptable.

jms62 01-10-2021 11:34 AM

I bet co-Favorite "Antifa attacked my Account" instead of heavily favored "I was only joking" which I couldn't see after his doubling down several times. This sport draws such ****ing scum, owners-trainers-players.... There are some great people you meet but beginning to become harder and harder to being in same room as the scum. Blessing that NHC pushed to August in this environment could have been explosive.

Dahoss 01-10-2021 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 1148394)
I bet co-Favorite "Antifa attacked my Account" instead of heavily favored "I was only joking" which I couldn't see after his doubling down several times. This sport draws such ****ing scum, owners-trainers-players.... There are some great people you meet but beginning to become harder and harder to being in same room as the scum. Blessing that NHC pushed to August in this environment could have been explosive.

For a good laugh check out the off topic section of PA for their reaction.

Dahoss 01-10-2021 11:44 AM

I see Joe Drape called Guillot a “prominent trainer” in his article about the banning. He’s had a total of 30 starters since 2019. Not sure prominent is the word I’d use but...

jms62 01-10-2021 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 1148395)
For a good laugh check out the off topic section of PA for their reaction.

Off Topic section is my motivation to do 45 minutes Peloton 7 days a week and 4 days HIIT running on my Peloton tread... LOL ... If they don't kill me in first minute I own them ;)

King Glorious 01-10-2021 12:03 PM

Interesting stuff.

Kasept 01-10-2021 01:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 1148394)
I bet co-Favorite "Antifa attacked my Account" instead of heavily favored "I was only joking" which I couldn't see after his doubling down several times. This sport draws such ****ing scum, owners-trainers-players.... There are some great people you meet but beginning to become harder and harder to being in same room as the scum.

:tro:

Quote:

Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 1148394)
Blessing that NHC pushed to August in this environment could have been explosive.

You make a great point.

cakes44 01-10-2021 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 1148394)
I bet co-Favorite "Antifa attacked my Account" instead of heavily favored "I was only joking" which I couldn't see after his doubling down several times. This sport draws such ****ing scum, owners-trainers-players.... There are some great people you meet but beginning to become harder and harder to being in same room as the scum. Blessing that NHC pushed to August in this environment could have been explosive.

Oh my God so good!!

Dahoss 01-10-2021 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 1148397)
Off Topic section is my motivation to do 45 minutes Peloton 7 days a week and 4 days HIIT running on my Peloton tread... LOL ... If they don't kill me in first minute I own them ;)

:D:tro:

freddymo 01-11-2021 08:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind (Post 1148393)
They aren't making news for "absolutely no reason at all" and it's not about an "off-putting sense of humor." It's about what somehow some people have deemed as acceptable that is COMPLETELY unacceptable.

Guillot is pathetic I won't lose a minute of sleep worrying about him. He was easy to cancel he canceled himself.

richard burch 01-11-2021 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by freddymo (Post 1148387)
For two people like them to be making the news in racing for absolutely no reason at all, it has time to reflect on just how inane tweeter has become and see how damaging it. A marginal trainer with an off-putting sense of humor and a guy who has no business educating the public about the sport, at least on the handicapping side. How the heck is either the story?

Couldn't say it any better....:tro:

Rudolf has mastered the art of bull shlt. He can actually talk for 3 minutes straight and not say a F'kng thing.

Right Matty? Let's pad that bankroll! I need some some stacks!....

Guillot, who?

richard burch 01-11-2021 09:22 PM

Everyone needs to lighten up. But since we are making complaints I also want to object to all the horses named....

Polish 2008 Gelding Current 2025
Polish Ben 2001 Gelding Current 2018
Polish Blue 1988 Horse Stud 2027
Polish Clown 2000 Gelding Current 2017
Polish County 2005 Mare Current 2022
Polish Court 1999 Mare Current 2016
Polish Duet 2000 Mare Current 2017
Polish Edition 1999 Gelding Current 2016
Polish Empress 2000 Mare Stud 2027
Polish Express 2002 Gelding Current 2019
Polish Girl 2012 Mare Current 2029
Polish Hero 2000 Gelding Current 2017
Polish Hill 1990 Mare Stud 2026
Polish Hussler 2008 Mare Current 2025
Polish Knight 2008 Gelding Current 2025
Polish Laughter 1990 Horse Stud 2030
Polish Light 2006 Mare Current 2023
Polish Line 2000 Gelding Current 2017
Polish Max 1999 Gelding Current 2016
Polish Miss 1999 Mare Current 2016
Polish Mist 1998 Mare Stud 2029
Polish Moon 1997 Mare Stud 2023
Polish My Halo 1999 Mare Current 2016
Polish Navy 1983 Horse Stud 2020
Polish Odyssey 2001 Mare Stud 2032
Polish Operation 2000 Gelding Current 2017
Polish Patriot 1987 Horse Stud 2016
Polish Pearl 2009 Mare Current 2026
Polish Policy 2010 Gelding Current 2027
Polish Poppy 2002 Mare Current 2019
Polish Priest 2000 Gelding Current 2017
Polish Princess 2002 Mare Stud 2036
Polish Queen 2003 Mare Current 2020
Polish Red 2001 Gelding Current 2018
Polish Reign 1999 Gelding Current 2016
Polish Rhythm 2002 Horse Current 2019
Polish Rose 2007 Mare Stud 2035
Polish Seville 2000 Gelding Current 2017
Polish Sniper 2000 Gelding Current 2017
Polish Sonata 2000 Mare Current 2017
Polish Spirit 1998 Mare Stud 2034
Polish Style 2007 Mare Stud 2032
Polish Symphony 2001 Gelding Current 2018
Polish Tiger 2012 Gelding Current 2029
Polish Touch 1996 Mare Stud 2025
Polish Train

because it hurts me and my family and my family's family. We Poles are a proud people.:)
Uhlan (Polish light cavalry)



and Happy New year everybody!

blackthroatedwind 01-11-2021 09:29 PM

Shouldn't you be out on a ledge somewhere?

Dahoss 01-12-2021 07:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by richard burch (Post 1148433)
Couldn't say it any better....:tro:

Rudolf has mastered the art of bull shlt. He can actually talk for 3 minutes straight and not say a F'kng thing.

Right Matty? Let's pad that bankroll! I need some some stacks!....

Guillot, who?

Yeah I mean Rudolph isn’t a great analyst so everyone should lighten up that a trainer is egging him on by saying racist things to him.

Thanks for letting us know. Have you done any new drawings?

King Glorious 01-12-2021 07:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 1148441)
Yeah I mean Rudolph isn’t a great analyst so everyone should lighten up that a trainer is egging him on by saying racist things to him.

Thanks for letting us know. Have you done any new drawings?

Good post.

freddymo 01-12-2021 09:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 1148441)
Yeah I mean Rudolph isn’t a great analyst so everyone should lighten up that a trainer is egging him on by saying racist things to him.

Thanks for letting us know. Have you done any new drawings?

he is a shitty analyst and does the betting public a disservice routinely. Nobody deserves a horse named to demean them, the fact that it IS racially charged makes the act that much more deplorable.

King Glorious 01-12-2021 10:08 AM

How good or bad of an analyst he is should not even be brought up in the conversation. It’s completely irrelevant. It comes off as a “yeah but” and that’s just not ok. I am not accusing you of that cause I don’t know you but that’s how it comes off, as if in even the slightest way, it’s not so bad cause it’s only Rudolph.

freddymo 01-12-2021 12:15 PM

Two things can be true at the same time and if you can't disseminate the context of each without conflating it's ok with me.

richard burch 01-12-2021 12:23 PM

Best way to solve this is crisis is to bring the 2 parties together and have them sit down and talk about there differences privately. That could be a first step in helping to eliminate racism in the sport. That goes for all of America, lets follow the lead of a great man Mr. King. (Rodney)

"Can't we all just get along?"



Forget it, stupid idea.

Dahoss 01-12-2021 08:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by richard burch (Post 1148451)
Best way to solve this is crisis is to bring the 2 parties together and have them sit down and talk about there differences privately. That could be a first step in helping to eliminate racism in the sport. That goes for all of America, lets follow the lead of a great man Mr. King. (Rodney)

"Can't we all just get along?"



Forget it, stupid idea.

:zz:

goodcopy 01-13-2021 06:47 PM

Get Better
 
Racism is the height of of human ignorance
Used in any way is wrong deplorable and not worthy of this great forums time!:mad:

cakes44 01-13-2021 07:08 PM

Guillot is a piece of sh!t.

Rudolph is a terrible analyst.

ne to socal 01-15-2021 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by King Glorious (Post 1148448)
How good or bad of an analyst he is should not even be brought up in the conversation. It’s completely irrelevant. It comes off as a “yeah but” and that’s just not ok. I am not accusing you of that cause I don’t know you but that’s how it comes off, as if in even the slightest way, it’s not so bad cause it’s only Rudolph.

Quote:

Originally Posted by freddymo (Post 1148450)
Two things can be true at the same time and if you can't disseminate the context of each without conflating it's ok with me.

A non-buffoon could have named the horse OFERSINCEGIACOMO if the point was to poke fun at his handicapping skills. Even I would have chuckled at that.

And all the on-air talent at TVG gets flamed but I don't hear about or see (and I spent too long on the names database to see if I'm way off) horses named MUTE SCHRUPP, or MUTE MATT. Never mind names that would stab at their ethnic identities.


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