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randallscott35 11-12-2006 09:59 PM

Rutgers #6 in the BCS
 
Go boys go. Need some serious breaks and to run the table but it can be done.

SniperSB23 11-12-2006 10:28 PM

#2 in the computer rankings, ahead of Ohio St

randallscott35 11-12-2006 10:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SniperSB23
#2 in the computer rankings, ahead of Ohio St

Which is ridiculous, but that's computers for you.

timmgirvan 11-13-2006 03:27 AM

Rutgers should definately be ahead of Notre Dame!

IrishofNDMan 11-13-2006 09:58 AM

Well that's just to damn bad isn't it. The winner of this weeks UM vs OSU game will play the winner of the ND vs USC game in two weeks for the National Championship. The Big East is weak, an 11-1 ND team is better than a 900-0 Rutgers team playing the in the Big Least.

IrishofNDMan 11-13-2006 10:00 AM

One more note about Rutgers, when they play West Virginia if Rutgers is favored I will load up heavily on WV, Rutgers is not athletic enough to stop WV and they will roll all over Rutgers!

SniperSB23 11-13-2006 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IrishofNDMan
Well that's just to damn bad isn't it. The winner of this weeks UM vs OSU game will play the winner of the ND vs USC game in two weeks for the National Championship. The Big East is weak, an 11-1 ND team is better than a 900-0 Rutgers team playing the in the Big Least.

Actually, that is far from definite with Rutgers #2 in the computers. If they win out and move ahead of the loser of the Michigan-Ohio St game in the human polls then they have a legit shot at beating out the USC-Notre Dame winner for #2 in the BCS.

BTW, Rutgers will absolutely not be favored at West Virginia.

IrishofNDMan 11-13-2006 11:11 AM

No, but if Michigan beats Ohio State by 14 or more, and ND wins out, then that means their one loss was to the obvious #1 team in the nation. If ND win out, that will mean that they beat the probable ACC Champion in Georgia Tech and the Pac 10 Champion in USC. I think that an 11-1 ND team would deserve a rematch against Michigan, which was a game where nothing could go right for the Irish.

Nascar1966 11-13-2006 11:40 AM

Notre Dame & the BCS
 
You have to be joking if Notre Dame deserves a Bullcrap Championship Series game. If they were a real team they would schedule teams other that Navy, Air Force, and Army. Instead of them im sure they would schedule Temple, Rice and Illinois. Today's athletics are all about the all mighty dollar and not competion. If it wasn't about the money then maybe Notre Dame would join a conference and no im not talking about the Big East or ACC. Maybe the Big Ten, they would never make it in the SEC. They dont deserve that TV deal also. I'd rather watch another team than an overated Notre Dame.

Cajungator26 11-13-2006 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nascar1966
You have to be joking if Notre Dame deserves a Bullcrap Championship Series game. If they were a real team they would schedule teams other that Navy, Air Force, and Army. Instead of them im sure they would schedule Temple, Rice and Illinois. Today's athletics are all about the all mighty dollar and not competion. If it wasn't about the money then maybe Notre Dame would join a conference and no im not talking about the Big East or ACC. Maybe the Big Ten, they would never make it in the SEC. They dont deserve that TV deal also. I'd rather watch another team than an overated Notre Dame.

AMEN TO THAT! :D (Not like my Gators aren't very overrated this season. HAHA)

randallscott35 11-13-2006 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IrishofNDMan
One more note about Rutgers, when they play West Virginia if Rutgers is favored I will load up heavily on WV, Rutgers is not athletic enough to stop WV and they will roll all over Rutgers!

WHat exactly are you smoking? The line for this game is out some place and it is WVA -8, so obviously they aren't overrated at all. IN fact the opposite is true. I don't expect them to win there, but Rutgers is far from favored.

IrishofNDMan 11-13-2006 10:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nascar1966
You have to be joking if Notre Dame deserves a Bullcrap Championship Series game. If they were a real team they would schedule teams other that Navy, Air Force, and Army. Instead of them im sure they would schedule Temple, Rice and Illinois. Today's athletics are all about the all mighty dollar and not competion. If it wasn't about the money then maybe Notre Dame would join a conference and no im not talking about the Big East or ACC. Maybe the Big Ten, they would never make it in the SEC. They dont deserve that TV deal also. I'd rather watch another team than an overated Notre Dame.

Go watch your white trash nascar buddy, this wins moron post of the year. Every powerhouse in College football plays a few teams such as Temple, Rice, Illinois, Navy, Airforce, and Army. Name one college football team that is in the top 10 that doesn't play atleast 3 weak teams such as the ones just named. You can't do it!! Every good team has a few cupcake games MORON!!! Stick to Nascar buddy!!

IrishofNDMan 11-13-2006 10:25 PM

Another fact:

Ohio State plays the bottome feeders of the Big 10. Granted they do play Michigan, so does Notre Dame. Notre Dame howerver plays the big names and good teams of the Big 10 such as Michigan, Penn State, and Purdue. Ohio State plays Michigan, Indiania and Illinois. Face it, ND isn't even in the Big 10 and they play the better half of the Big 10 where as Ohio State plays the lower half.

OWNED!!!

timmgirvan 11-13-2006 10:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IrishofNDMan
Another fact:

Ohio State plays the bottome feeders of the Big 10. Granted they do play Michigan, so does Notre Dame. Notre Dame howerver plays the big names and good teams of the Big 10 such as Michigan, Penn State, and Purdue. Ohio State plays Michigan, Indiania and Illinois. Face it, ND isn't even in the Big 10 and they play the better half of the Big 10 where as Ohio State plays the lower half.

OWNED!!!

Strength of Schedule ratings have USC at 2,Cal at 4,Wash at 3,Stanford at 1,Florida at 14,ND at 22,Mich at 29,Osu at 49. So I would say USC runs the table and Florida might be in the mix also!;)

Crown@club 11-13-2006 11:01 PM

Purdue is a good team???????

Man I don't think I can go to bed tonight. I wouldn't be able to stop laughing for a while

Nascar1966 11-13-2006 11:04 PM

Notre Dame
 
IrishofNDMan,

Listen here whiney butt. I am not disputing the fact that all the top teams play cream puffs each year. THEY DO. All teams need a scrimmage game once in a while. Do they play all three service academies in the same year? Name me a team other that Notre Dame that does that. Don't use the service academies, because that would be two games each year vice three, that is if you know how to count. Im sure you dont have any clue about NASCAR either. And you dare to call it white trash. I always thought that Notre Dame people had some class, since its pretty much a Catholic college. I guess the saying one bad apple in the bunch applies to YOU!!!!!!! Im sure you would be suprised at the intelligence that NASCAR fans have, which you obviously don't have.

2 Dollar Bill 11-14-2006 08:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IrishofNDMan
One more note about Rutgers, when they play West Virginia if Rutgers is favored I will load up heavily on WV, Rutgers is not athletic enough to stop WV and they will roll all over Rutgers!

I dont want to pile on here.. but (if my memory serves me right ).. didnt you make a post that Nd would BEAT GT by 17 points ? I belive you wrote.. make sure you Load up on ND and take the $$$$ . If my memory is wrong please excuse me.

Cajungator26 11-14-2006 09:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IrishofNDMan
Go watch your white trash nascar buddy, this wins moron post of the year. Every powerhouse in College football plays a few teams such as Temple, Rice, Illinois, Navy, Airforce, and Army. Name one college football team that is in the top 10 that doesn't play atleast 3 weak teams such as the ones just named. You can't do it!! Every good team has a few cupcake games MORON!!! Stick to Nascar buddy!!

This is too funny! If you only knew what it entailed to work on those cars, you'd shut your mouth... I haven't met a single guy in the garage that would be considered "white trash." :rolleyes:

By the way, the main reason I can't stand Notre Dame is because of fans like yourself. Thanks for verifying that for me. :D

saucon17 11-14-2006 09:34 AM

I can't get enough of Notre Dame Bashing,
Please keep it going:D

ND plays Army this week to end their 6 consecutive hard game
in a row:eek:

I'm not a die hard Nascar Fan but every year I go
to Pocono Raceway for the 2 races they hold each year.
Because its non-stop action and a great time with the buddies

somerfrost 11-14-2006 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saucon17
I can't get enough of Notre Dame Bashing,
Please keep it going:D

ND plays Army this week to end their 6 consecutive hard game
in a row:eek:

I'm not a die hard Nascar Fan but every year I go
to Pocono Raceway for the 2 races they hold each year.
Because its non-stop action and a great time with the buddies

Yeah, I am a NASCAR fan and I don't think I'm "white trash"...well, I guess that could be argued, but if someone is going to question my intelligence...well, $1000.oo a point, any IQ test recognized by Mensa...put your money up! I might yet consider early retirement! Ok, back to the point...ND is overrated imo, they are a good team with an outstanding QB but that "D" won't hold up against the big boys! Nevertheless, if they beat USC they would be in the running for the championship game...have to be! Right now, I'd rank:
Ohio State
Michigan
USC
Rutgers
Florida
Arkansas
ND
Obviously, one of the top two will fall, USC vs ND will eliminate another, only one from Florida/Arkansas...so...winner of OSU vs Mich is one, USC with a win over ND is the other...if USC loses and Rutgers can somehow go into Morgantown and beat WVa...they should be the second team! If Rutgers falls, either Florida or Arkansas would have a claim but so would ND so...we'll wait and see!

Cajungator26 11-14-2006 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by somerfrost
Yeah, I am a NASCAR fan and I don't think I'm "white trash"...well, I guess that could be argued, but if someone is going to question my intelligence...well, $1000.oo a point, any IQ test recognized by Mensa...put your money up! I might yet consider early retirement! Ok, back to the point...ND is overrated imo, they are a good team with an outstanding QB but that "D" won't hold up against the big boys! Nevertheless, if they beat USC they would be in the running for the championship game...have to be! Right now, I'd rank:
Ohio State
Michigan
USC
Rutgers
Florida
Arkansas
ND
Obviously, one of the top two will fall, USC vs ND will eliminate another, only one from Florida/Arkansas...so...winner of OSU vs Mich is one, USC with a win over ND is the other...if USC loses and Rutgers can somehow go into Morgantown and beat WVa...they should be the second team! If Rutgers falls, either Florida or Arkansas would have a claim but so would ND so...we'll wait and see!

Well, I'm a huge Gators fan, but I honestly believe that Arkansas is going to beat us. We don't deserve a national championship with the way we've been playing. I'm pulling for Michigan to beat OSU... I'd love to see them national champs. I'll be very surprised if Rutgers can beat WVa at home. :eek:

somerfrost 11-14-2006 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cajungator26
Well, I'm a huge Gators fan, but I honestly believe that Arkansas is going to beat us. We don't deserve a national championship with the way we've been playing. I'm pulling for Michigan to beat OSU... I'd love to see them national champs. I'll be very surprised if Rutgers can beat WVa at home. :eek:

Me too! Of course going to school in WVa, I'm far from impartial but there were many folks who felt that WVU had a legit chance to win the national title at the beginning of the year! They are for real...their "D" left them down, along with sloppy ball handling against Louisville but Morgantown is a really tough place to play and they will be ready! If Rutgers comes out with a win, they are one excellent football team!

IrishofNDMan 11-14-2006 12:59 PM

The reason I am posting what I am posting and acting like I am is because I am sick of all the jealous ND Bashers. I go on a message board to talk football, and all you see is threads bashing and hating on Notre Dame. It gets sickening, why do you people have nothing better to do than to hate on the most prestigous college football team there is? Sorry if I offended anyone with the Nascar comment, it really was meant as a joke. We were talking about Rutgers here, and someone has to bring up ND and trying to bash them.

The reason ND is so hyped is because of all of you. You guys hate ND, and you have nothing better to do then to put them down. Everyone has a say on ND, either you love em or you hate em!

GO IRISH!!

Cajungator26 11-14-2006 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IrishofNDMan
The reason I am posting what I am posting and acting like I am is because I am sick of all the jealous ND Bashers. I go on a message board to talk football, and all you see is threads bashing and hating on Notre Dame. It gets sickening, why do you people have nothing better to do than to hate on the most prestigous college football team there is? Sorry if I offended anyone with the Nascar comment, it really was meant as a joke. We were talking about Rutgers here, and someone has to bring up ND and trying to bash them.

The reason ND is so hyped is because of all of you. You guys hate ND, and you have nothing better to do then to put them down. Everyone has a say on ND, either you love em or you hate em!

GO IRISH!!

LOL... everyone bashes other football teams across the board. It's not just Notre Dame. I only hate the Irish because my Step Dad is such a huge fan of them and we enjoy giving eachother shiat all season long about college ball. :D Notre Dame is also the kind of team that attracts "fair weather fans." I like a team that can keep their fans no matter what kind of season they're having... with that said, keep your chin up. Don't let people bring you down in regards to the ND bashing... it's all fun and games. No worries. :)

Nascar1966 11-14-2006 01:23 PM

Bcs
 
Geez this is turning out to be an awesome thread. I am a Penn State and Pitt fan. Both are having off years. Hard to repeat what Penn State did lasyt year. Wannstadt is ruining Pitt, just like he did to the Dolphins. I hope his time will be very soon. If Notre Dame beats USC it will be very interesting to see who plays the winner of the Ohio State-Michigan game. Rumor going around that if its close there could be a rematch. Personally I dont see it happening. More reason why there needs to be some kind of playoff in division 1A football. I am sure that if there was a playoff system a team or two that was left out would be ranting and raving about being left out.

IrishofNDMan 11-14-2006 02:15 PM

I agree with that statement, a playoff system in college football is badly needed. It would be the only way to make everyone happy, and then no team feels screwed and left out. I hear people saying that if ND runs the table, and Ohio State beats Michigan it will be a shame if ND jumps Michigan and makes the National Title game. I agree with that, but does anyone remember 1993? I was to young to remember, but I hear how bad it was. Notre Dame beat the #1 team Florida State, then lost the next week to Boston College and who was chosen to play for the National Title, you guessed it, Florida State. So eventhough I think it wouldn't be fair for ND to jump Michigan, it would in a way make things better for ND fans who had to go through the same thing in 93.

GO IRISH!!!!

Cajungator26 11-14-2006 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IrishofNDMan
I agree with that statement, a playoff system in college football is badly needed. It would be the only way to make everyone happy, and then no team feels screwed and left out. I hear people saying that if ND runs the table, and Ohio State beats Michigan it will be a shame if ND jumps Michigan and makes the National Title game. I agree with that, but does anyone remember 1993? I was to young to remember, but I hear how bad it was. Notre Dame beat the #1 team Florida State, then lost the next week to Boston College and who was chosen to play for the National Title, you guessed it, Florida State. So eventhough I think it wouldn't be fair for ND to jump Michigan, it would in a way make things better for ND fans who had to go through the same thing in 93.

GO IRISH!!!!

FSU is one of the only teams that I absolutely LOATHE. It makes me grin cheek to cheek seeing them do as poorly as they are doing this season. :D

gales0678 11-14-2006 03:01 PM

Jaime,

Be careful of Bobby Bowden in an underdog role

Most of the games they have lost this year they have been favored

Last year they upset Va Tech as a double digit dog in the ACC game, then almost won the Orange Bowl against PSU

Bowden is his best when he is and UNDERDOG - which he will be against FLA in a couple of weeks

Cajungator26 11-14-2006 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gales0678
Jaime,

Be careful of Bobby Bowden in an underdog role

Most of the games they have lost this year they have been favored

Last year they upset Va Tech as a double digit dog in the ACC game, then almost won the Orange Bowl against PSU

Bowden is his best when he is and UNDERDOG - which he will be against FLA in a couple of weeks

Martin, I'm about as scared of FSU beating us as I was of Alabama beating the Tigahs... NOT AT ALL. :D I think that Florida will be ready for FSU. In fact, I'm more scared of losing to Western Carolina next weekend than I am of losing to FSU.

Jamie

SniperSB23 11-17-2006 12:14 PM

Fun with computer rankings:

The Colley Matrix (used in the BCS) has a cool feature where you can add and subtract games to see how they would change the rankings. Adding Rutgers over WV, Rutgers over Cincy, and Ohio St over Michigan would make Rutger #1 and Ohio St #2. However, also adding Rutgers over Syracuse would drop Rutgers to #2. So Rutgers would be better off in the computer polls not playing Syracuse than by beating them 177-0.

randallscott35 11-18-2006 08:48 PM

The dream is ending tonight it seems.

20-3 in the 3rd quarter. Feeling ill.

Pointg5 11-20-2006 12:23 PM

Went to the game, it would have been better for the Big East to have Rutgers win, but being a UC Alum, I am glad they pulled it off. UC's got a nice defense and they played the toughest schedule in the NCAA: Ohio State, Va Tech, Louisville, West Virginia, and Rutgers, making a Bowl is a good accomplishment for them with that Schedule and being a borderline Big East School. I hardly recognized the place, they have really fixed it up, too bad it's in the middle of a war zone, but maybe they can get the kids that don't go to Ohio State and field a good team. Rushing the field was kind of weak, glad I left before they did that, Rutgers is good, but can't believe that you would be so excited to beat Rutgers that you rushed the field. I think I may go to some more games next year, nice place and they serve beer at the games.


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