Future Breeders Cup Locations
 

We all know it is at Monouth in 2007. But word around the industry is that it will be back at Churchill in 2008. There is also pressure from the European horseman and horsewomen to have the races at Churchill every year. Not sure what I think about that. I guess one thing is the attendace at the Breeders Cup when it is at Churchill compared to other places. The knock on Florida and Cali is the weather is not suitable for Euro horses and the kock at Belmont is that a couple of races become a 1 turn race. I would love to see it at Churchill every year, but I think there should be some sort of track rotation.

Just wondering if the NTRA and BC are going to get caught up in the "lets rebuild New Orleans "and consider the FG?

If they F the track up like that again, it should never come back there. I come to expect it on Derby Day, but not on BC day.

I had a great time at Churchill, and do think the BC should be there somewhere around every three and a half years, but let's not get too excited about fabricated attendance figures. I am sure they had a big crowd but nobody should actually believe either their BC numbers or their Derby numbers.

What they really need to do is hire an outside consultant to set the place up for food and beverage service. Getting food was absurd...and what you got was not special. While I happen to enjoy still frozen chicken tenders I am guessing many don't.

The food service at Churchill has always been a disaster. I like how you had to make your own hot chocolate. I agree with about every 3 years. I would like to see a Belmont, Churchill rotation and then throw in an Arlington, Monmouth etc etc on the non Belmont/Churchill year.

Definitely agree with that. At the Derby you can't find anything interesting to eat and they completely rape you with their prices...I imagine the BC was the same. And did they not add a single extra bathroom in the renovation? I find they should bring in more betting computers as well as the lines are ridiculous.

I know one thing, they raise the hell out of their prices for BC day. Sandwiches that were $6 on Friday were $8 on Saturday. Water went from $2.50 to $3.

I hear a lot of criticism of another racing jurisdiction but I know they don't pull a cheap shot like that....and would get villified if they did.

i loved the full bar service..those people need to retire..and i saw a teller on break with 10 min to post..wtf..

CD is far superior to Arlington's BC that is for sure. Not sure about the outside food stands but the Carolina B'Bque stand by gate 119 was awesome. Best was after the 9th walking by and being hawked for half price sandwiches when we were headed there for more anyway. I'd vote for CD to host every year that's for sure.

Not only that, but since they won't allow anything brought into the gates and they jack up their prices, they are only hurting themselves by people having less money to bet with. I believe they are the only track that charges so high for general admission as well. Their seat prices on their big racing days certainly blows away anything you see in the NY tracks, I'm not sure about the CA or Arlington tracks.

I tend to eat very little at the track...

I'll drink myself under the table, though! LMAO!!! As long as there's a bar within walking distance, I'm a happy camper. :D

Why are you people buying food there anyway. You can bring in your own food. We brought some snickers, sandwiches, chips and cookies. The only thing we bought were two pepsis and 3 hot chocolates.

They wouldn't let me walk in with a half a water! And, while we're on it, the strip search at the gate, that had literally thousands of people backed up, was as absurd as it was stupid.

If you bet enough on your Twin Spires card you get free admission.
But for the general public at Arlington its $6 admission I believe. I remember on BC day at Arlington there was a nice surprise waiting for the regular patrons when they arrived on BC day, $9 admission!

The food is expensive but not horrible at AP. I think you can still get a hot dog and a coke for $7.50.

Yeah you cant bring in any type of liquid at all. No exceptions.

Admission at Arlington is $6????????? I hope that is at least for the Clubhouse.

Atleast at Churchill you won't have to cap the races.That would not be useful there.Simply see which posts are smokin' hot.Don't have to buy a form for the dirt races.

1 for the money

My personal favorite moment from the Derby is when they only had two exits for over 100,000 people (mostly drunk) after it was all over.

Give me Belmont and Saratoga! :cool:

No sir. general admission.

however they do throw in an arlington program for your six bucks, so it's not like a total rip off.:)

It is funny about the difference between perception and reality. One place gets praised no matter what they do and the other gets lambasted whatever they do.

That's crazy. Look, I don't pay, but I can't understand how any racetrack charges anyone for admission. I guess special days are different, but on the average days to take more from your core customers is inexcusable.

When will they announce 2008 location ?
Does Gulfstream have a chance now that they have slots???

I don't pay either anymore, but I agree about the admission.
They should open the doors and welcome people in, to gamble, buy souvenirs, and eat the expensive food.

Gulfstream can't get the BC due to WAY too few seats. They are history for the BC.

Don't they also have the the new configuration that doesn't allow for 1 1/16 distances? I believe they run 1 1/8 only and the outside posts are a killer.

Including sunscreen even though the sun is brutal on Derby Day if you aren't in covered seats. Although I think I read afterwards that you could bring in sunscreen if you put it in a clear plastic bag. Would have been nice to know before I got severely sunburned.

Yeah, the Juvy would have to be a one turn mile or 1 1/8.

I know if I'm an owner of a horse going in the juvenile and I've paid a lot of money to race in the BC at Gulfstream, and my horse gets assigned the 12 post, I'm fairly unhappy to say the least.

i don't think the BC will ever go the Gulfstream again.

I think they should be a mile, but that will never happen, and they can't run the big fields with the ridiculous post position handicap. The only compromise would be if they used a different finish line....which is basically untenable for the BC.

Doesn't matter, they have way too few seats for the BC restrictions and nowhere to put people. They have disqualified themselves.

Can Gulfstream hold 50,000 people anymore? I thought the seating had been shrunken to build the racino.

I didnt know about the new configuration however I think it holds more than Monmouth's 40,000. I could be wong.

So who's the general concenceous for 2008 ?

It is almost a done deal that Churchill gets it in 2008. The Breeders Cup people are in town next month to go over the contract with Churchill's new President.

They should run it at Churchill every year.

Oh...I thought that I already heard that they were getting it every 3 years.

40,000? Isn't that where it is next year....

yep. it is.

obviously with a owners license i pay zero to get into Arlington and while it is the most beautiful track in the world the admission is way too high. if any1 is paying 6 dollars everytime they walk into the door there next year lemme know and ill get ya some free passes. if topinka gets elected here tho you may not have to pay any admission, rumor has it slots will be in the tracks here

I dont understand why anyone goes to the track especially on BC day.
You go for the ambience?? please. There is nothing like going to the track watching the race on the "Big Screen" with a hundred guys in front of you blocking your view of the race and then when the race is over you have to ask the drunk guy next to you who won.

Trying to bet is even worse. Might as well cap the race while standing in line.

Gulfstream can hold 5,000-6,000 people comfortably. 12,000 is very, very crowded.

There are a total of 600 outdoor seats with a view of the racetrack. On the big Saturdays last year, those 600 seats went for about $75 and they are impossible for an average person to get.

Gulfstream is all about revenue per sq ft. Their approach is that it is a handle-driven and not an attendance-driven track.

It is a nice place but the big Saturdays are impossibly crowded. Sundays are better. Weekdays are best.

I was at Monmouth for Point Given's Haskell. 47,000. It was crowded but not uncomfortable. They do a good job of taking care of the people at Monmouth. Don't know what might happen when the BC gets their greedy little fingers involved.