Maximum Security
 

I was very surprised how many "experts" overlooked a golden wagering opportunity. Because of the stumble and duel it was obvious Hidden Scroll wasn't going to the front. This led to the most obvious lone f on a track that favors horses on the front with no pressure. Add to this Maximum Security had improving Bris figures each race and showed no signs of not improving again. The horse doesn't know he was entered in a mcl16. Also I can't believe the Hidden Scroll hype for a horse who only won on a sloppy track. Rosario is redeemed for the unjustified blame. In the end if the horse isn't good, he isn't good. Congrats team Maximum.

Kindly direct us to your similar pre-race thoughts.

Thanks in advance.

He also probably didn't know he was trained by a guy winning at almost 50% at a premier meet :rolleyes:

No handicapper is perfect. I’m sure most experts weighed the possibility and just thought a 49 second opening half mile was very unlikely and that even a slightly faster pace would have set up Code of Honor or Bourbon War or Harvey Wallbanger a little better. But it turns out, Maximum Security was able to slow the entire beginning of the race down and then finish everyone off. Great strategy by them. I’m not sure they’ll be able to repeat it in the derby. But maybe Maximum Security can finish strong even with a faster pace. We’ll see.

:tro::tro:

(I'm still waiting)

To me Hidden Scroll never looked comfortable in that race. I would not be suprised to hear of a physical issue.

After he broke, if the kid went on with him he wouldn’t have got into that uncomfortable position. Make the lead and then slow it down, not choke the life out of him in a bad spot.

If it were up to me you'd be banned for this nonsense.

I agree with this. I really hope not though you because he could still be the best of this group.
I'd love to see him healthy and train up to the Preakness. Play no games and go up front. He would be so dangerous, fresh.....

Hidden Scroll in the Preakness would be fun. Any indication they’re considering that?

Nope, but assuming he's healthy, why not?
Maybe they take a step back, remember he only had a maiden win.
He could go Pat Day mile, Sir Barton and Easy Goer.
Or an allowance at Belmont, even vs older.

I read somewhere the other day...and this was after the Louisiana Derby mind you...that War of Will was the early favorite for the New York Turf Triple.

Based on that psychedelic drug-fueled "logic", I have to think that Hidden Scroll is at least current second-choice for those races...

Trollin', trollin', trollin'.....keep them newbies trollin'...

So this "golden wagering opportunity" came up AFTER the start of the race?

lol - I thought that too at first - but he’s talking about Hidden Scroll’s start in the Fountain of Youth.

In the Florida Derby thread, I laid out the possibility that Max Sec would be able to run away with the race since Scroll was planning to rate. Then I basically disregarded it and said I was picking Bourbon War. I don’t remember Minidar chiming in. Maybe he could have swayed everyone’s opinion and we’d all be counting our fat stacks of cash right now. Very selfish of him.

Ahh, it's all coming together now. The man is a genius!

We’re going to be reading about him this week when CBS tries to dupe people into signing up for sportsline: “This guy tossed the two favorites to nail “longshot” Maximum Security in the Florida Derby. He made thousands off that race alone. Now sign up for sportsline and see what he thinks about the Santa Anita Derby, Blue Grass, and Wood Memorial.”

If they do it would be outright Fraud his first choice was Burbon War and second Code of Honor. Maximum Security was his 6th choice.

Minidar or someone else?

easy to say now after what we saw as is always the case, if they just let Hidden Scroll run who knows what would of happened. But it looks like Max would of still won

I don't agree with this.

Garrett O'Rouke said last week on a conference call that they would consider it if he didn't run well in the Florida Derby.

Are the fields for this year's Triple Crown so devoid of talent that we're waiting with baited breath for a horse that hasn't even hit the board outside of his maiden win in the slop to appear and run a hole in the wind?

Im still high on Bourbon War to turn for home like an out of control freight train with a drunkard conductor if he gets 46-47 half to close into. I'm even high on Code of Honor, who looked all but done on Saturday heading into the stretch yet he never wilted. I hope to see 10-1 or better on both of those in May.

yup those are the main two horses to not sleep on, and i think we will get better than that. I like Code of Honor a bit better since he already proved he can win.

I wish he would of won or steamed up the pace so that Code of Honor would of swooped by. They really messed with this horse, I am glad to hear they will be going back to the drawing board, I wouldn't even consider a Triple Crown race until he passes a few hoops first.

He looked good but running in optional claimers is a little "light" for me.

I'll be surprised if either goes off at less than 10-1.

Last-race-performance dominates my own capping, and I was pretty impressed with the 1st two finishers in the FL Derby. Yes, the winner had an easy setup, but we're talking a 7-length margin back to CodeOfHonor and BourbonWar. The top two finishers have as much and probably more room to improve than the competition.

I told my horseplaying friends the day of the race my handicapping theory. I didn't spend a week analyzing. I looked that morning and saw in two seconds there was no speed. And when you add dominant lone speed that is a golden opportunity and I slayed the race.

The rare redboard double-down.

Ban him. He's obviously a moron troll. I've been darted 4 less.

I'm good.

:D:D:D

I can't wait for your next post race opinion.

Take it easy on him. I remember what it was like the first time I correctly handicapped a race. Exciting times.

I'm just glad Maxidar isn't posting.

He’ll no doubt have the Kentucky Derby pentafecta! At 7:15pm on 5/4/19.

:D:D:tro:

Call me a cynic, but I don't believe in any horse coming out of that barn (and a few others) at Gulfstream.