Potential Derby horse....
 

Thursday at Aqueduct , race 5. I think there's a horse with big upside. Guess who it is....

Oklahoma, Ohio, or West Virginia?

Great Thursday card. I am excited.

Took a quick peak and looks like a nice race. I think Moretti is horse to beat.

If the Curlin baby Erlich gets out front, they may not be able to catch him...if he can get the 9F without stopping, maybe a Moretti/Erlich exacta will be a good play?

I think Will Dancer will show speed and push Erlich some early

Lock of the decade.

Lol gee thanks buddy

No problem pal.

Might be the underlay of the year.

Lisbon made nice wide sweep into connection in his debut on turf before getting ping-ponged around after making contact with the Juddmonte runner in that race.

His breeding is geared more towards the main track which makes his summer diet of turf workouts a bit curious. By Quality Road out of a Hard Spun mare. Both the dam and the granddam were stakes winners over the Aqueduct main track and deeper in the family is 2yo champion filly Family Style and her half sister Lost Kitty, who won both the Del Mar Debutante and the Del Mar Futurity in 1987 for D. Wayne Lukas.

That's where I'm going. There are no killers in this field, at least on paper....the supposed subject of this thread notwithstanding. Apparently despite Todd's 2YOs not even running particularly well in Florida, the OP of this thread thinks he finally has one that can run. Call me dubious.

Out of respect for you 2 I am forced to reevaluate my opinion.
Ill post upon completion.

Don't let them push you around Joey.

Upon further review I have downgraded Moretti. He was the lock of the decade, now he's the lock of the year. I have upgraded Lisbon. I had him as an X. Now he's a C, he has a chance to be a well beaten non threatening 2nd to Moretti.

...and JV in the irons. ;)

You are already up to the year 2150 in your locks of year ;)

The number 2 hoss in the fifth race
 

I think that the deuce getting Franco American spaghettios, after 2 poor rides by castor oil, will take some beating. With 4 nice half mile works going into this race, he seems primed for optimum effort. The white faced hoss could show up underneath at an L 7 price.

Trying to keep thing's exciting.

If your last statement turns out to be accurate, then I suppose Lisbon will be the next Lock of the Decade because that's how I would describe Moretti's performance in his debut.

Perhaps it had to do with getting kickback and being positioned along the rail, but Moretti was asked at the 3/8s pole with little response and then came under heavy pressure (even struck with the whip a few times) before the 1/4 pole and basically had no acceleration. He plugged along to collar a couple of pace factors who faded late but made absolutely no impression on the winner.

Many a Medaglia D'Oro offspring appear to be similar one-paced types, so while the 9 furlongs is probably in his wheelhouse, the penchant for losing ground or position on the turns might be a disadvantage when stretching out to two turns for this race. Considering they paid $900K a few months before it was determined that half-brother Battle of Midway was a dud at stud, Moretti may turn out to be one over-priced flop without substantial improvement.

In addition, the winner (Bourbon War) was wheeled back in the Remsen and never got a call, so going beyond this maiden event on Thursday, Moretti will be hard pressed to be considered a potential Derby horse without a massive move up.

Meanwhile, I wouldn't endorse Lisbon to any great degree anyways as there's probably a reason he was trained for the turf rather than the dirt for his debut unless his connections are completely clueless.

This doesn’t rank as high on my “bad beat” list as Catholic Boy’s second win against Analyze It (not sure i’ll Ever fully get over that loss, I literally smelled the money as they were pulling into the stretch. Ughh), but Stilts getting beaten for 2nd today in this race totally blew me up. I went from looking like a SURE THING as Stilts (6) was making his run into the far turn, to ripping my hair out like Larry from The 3 Stooges once I realized the 2 came back and got way the best on the bob at the wire.

Big exacta = busted
Sizable (enough) tri = rip the proverbial ticket up
Super = likewise, although im an IDIOT for not keying 3 slots, esp knowing Erlich would fade away like Hakeem The Dream but was likely to still hang on for a slice.

In summation, i STINK as a bettor. Couldn’t have handicapped the race any better, but have bupkus to show for it. It’s almost as if I watched the race before I was allowed to bet on it, but STILL managed to screw it up bigtime!

Even if you don’t earn, you learn! Today, well, it was a learning experience. A big one! And I’m betting big money moving forward, as I’m seeing things more clearly. I’m in my zone, with or without my $50 bet yesterday on Dealer Queen High at Pai Gow! My favorite bet in the casino! 50-1 odds. Walked into Sugarhouse with $295, after Tacconelli’s and a smoothie next door I had about $270+ to play with but only put $250 on the table. Won the first hand for $80 bc I lost $20 on Queen high. Pushed the second hand. Won the third with a flush ($20 on dynasty bonus too), THEN on the fourth hand is when I struck hard. Would’ve won the hand outright too but they don’t pay out winners when someone hits Queen high on the dealer. I hit for $2500. Gave the dealer John a nice buck and a half, played $200 on the next hand and lost bc my dumbass don’t split pairs. Called it a DAY! That was up until I walked past the new “sportsbook”. Placed $30 worth of bets just to say that I bet sports legally in Philly and headed back to the office! Not a bad hour between settlements! :D:eek:

STRIKE OFTEN AND STRIKE BIG! We only have one life to live! LIVE THAT $HIT!




P.S. sorry for the rant! Just an example of how you can ride the high wave one day, only to lose a nice portion of it back after being nosed out of another great
day the next! The life we’ve chose !!

Despite the horse validating your opinion last month at Aqueduct, you've chosen to abandon Moretti in favor of a horse trained by Derby-challenged Bill Mott. However, I can't really say I blame you when the people in control of Moretti consist of deep thinkers like this, spewing unfiltered filth for all to see:

“Medaglia d'Oro is a world-class stallion and being a half-brother to Battle of Midway, he has a real stallion's pedigree and that's what we're always looking for, hoping to develop horses to a stud career,” said Pletcher.

In case you missed it...

https://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-rac...ed-to-training

[quote=RolloTomasi;1120630]Despite the horse validating your opinion last month at Aqueduct, you've chosen to abandon Moretti in favor of a horse trained by Derby-challenged Bill Mott. However, I can't really say I blame you when the people in control of Moretti consist of deep thinkers like this, spewing unfiltered filth for all to see:

“Medaglia d'Oro is a world-class stallion and being a half-brother to Battle of Midway, he has a real stallion's pedigree and that's what we're always looking for, hoping to develop horses to a stud career,” said Pletcher.

In case you missed it...

https://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-rac...ed-to-training[/QUOTE


I still like Moretti. But he gives me a big Vino Rosso feeling. Dont like that.

Hidden Scroll ...... MUCH the best! :D gotta :{>: those Hard Spun offspring :)