NYRA Knockers TAKE THIS!!!
 

http://news.bloodhorse.com/viewstory.asp?id=36003

This is for all the walking garbage that bashes NYRA constantly for no reason. Revolution I hope this doesnt ruin the circle jerk you boys have nightly.
Gee, and without polytrack? LOL!!!!
Great job by NYRA once again. Saratoga up, Belmont fall up, this is called a trend.

I think it worked in reverse for the New York Tracks. All the money that could have possibly been spent at Keeneland was transitioned to a more honest, familiar, surface. Real American racing is taking place in NY right now, not Keeneland. Wherever the racing is, that is where the money will be.

You are correct. This was astonishing news as they lost a ton of handle on JCGC day with the small fields and prohibitive favorites.
Quite frankly when this was announced, I was stunned.
I figured that the hit the they took on JCGC day would surely hurt them badly.
Guess people like this dirt racing stuff to bet on after all.
Wonder how the Empire racing boys will try and spin this? Their attempt to spin the handle gain at Saratoga was to say that not enough people were shopping on Broadway. They actually said that, to reporters!!!!!
How do you figure they will spin this one?

They wont be able to spin it when Keeneland discloses the handle they have produced. I figure there is probably about a Million dollars daily being swung out to NY in favor of conventional racing. Not for the fact Keeneland doesnt have a quality product, because they do. The best horses just arent winning there. Serious handicappers are in the game to make money, not piss it away in awe of a new surface.

You dont know how good it makes me feel to read this. Proves my point of yesterday polytrack=handle in the gutter.

4, 5, 7, 6, 5, 6, 5, 2, 7.

now THAT'S a problem.

Through 208 race dates this year, NYRA all-sources wagering is averaging $10.7 million per day, up 2.3%.

A whopping 2.3%. LOL.


Are you people really that stupid? They took out last years biggest day to fudge the numbers. What a surprise that NYRA is playing with numbers.

Handle could be up 500%, and it wouldn't matter because the mobsters at NYRA would find a way to lose money. :eek:

Hey rocket scientist Oracle, HOW COME NYRA IS STILL LOSING MONEY?

Answer that question?

Also, do you know what the increases or decreases have been at Keeneland or are you just making up stuff as usual.

BYE BYE NYRA. Spitzer's election means it is all over for the NYRA criminals.

Wow rev. you got balls coming into this room with that crap. Are you sure you want to take this one on? Could be a long day.

I believe in Facts, not fudged numbers. NYRA is a corrupt "non-profit" that loses millions each year.

What exactly constitutes " balls " in the anonymity of the internet?

Please....enlighten me.

You really are the true " fact " policewoman of this sight. Thank GOD we have you here.

Look at the size of those knockers....

Another NYRA cheerleader. Let me guess, you are friendly with a lot of these crooks that cost taxpayers millions.

lets go for a profited organization so we can pay $10 a beer and $7.50 for a hotdog.

Define " crooks " and please, for once, identify them at NYRA. I for one won't stand for any crooks there and will have those on your list , as certainly you have proof because you only deal in facts, both fired and arrested ( not sure which order however ).


Once again, remember, just the facts ma'am.

Yeah $5 and 3.50 are as cheap as it gets. Enough a can of soda is $1.75 in a machine. Order a slice and a coke and it is $8.

Here are your facts. Read it and you will get a laugh at how criminal NYRA is. I believe they were called "out of control". Tell me how you lose money running a racetrack every single year.

http://www.oag.state.ny.us/press/rep...yra_report.pdf

"For nearly 20 years, NYRA and members of its senior management conspired to permit mutuel employees to use NYRA's funds as if they belonged to the employees. This went undetected for so long because the corruption pervaded the culture of the organization,'' said Acting U.S. Attorney Andrew C. Hruska.

All I know is NYRA puts the best racing product in the country on the track. I don't care who runs it.

Please, ma'am, just the facts.

Who are these criminals CURRENTLY at NYRA? I NEED to know so we can rid the place of this vermin. Certainly you know specifically who they are as you have spouted this claim of yours many times on this site while NEVER telling us who they are. You wouldn't want any of us to think you don't deal in " just the facts " as you have been claiming.

Once again...we need specifics from you. WHO ARE THESE CRIMINALS!

And by the way sweetheart, these are old charges that NYRA has satisfied, so please since you are claiming to deal in facts, we need current criminals, as you suggest, not ones who are no longer associated with NYRA.

Oh yes, now they are all cleaned up. LOL. I guess there are steroids in baseball now too. LOL. Somehow NYRA continues to lose millions each year though.

NYRA will be gone soon, so it doesn't matter. I guess you guys all hate cheaters, unless those cheaters are people you know. :eek:

Here are some funny things.

NYRA gave a $797,913 contract for Internet services to a firm owned by Michael Ferdman and his wife, Stephanie Leigh Schwartz, daughter of ex-CEO Barry Schwartz. That contract continues.

NYRA Paid two horse transporters $384,244 to move horses between the Belmont, Aqueduct and Saratoga tracks operated by NYRA. Some of the free transportation was for horses owned by NYRA board members.

NYRA owes state taxpayers $15.3 million because of mismanagement

Oh I understand, they are reformed criminals. That always works great. LOL.

Why don't we let guys who embezzled money from banks stay on the job. They will be reformed, right? LOL.

If you can't turn a profit, get out. The taxpayers aren't here to subsidize mismanagement.

I am one person and I regularly go to Belmont. To this day, tellers still try to rip off gamblers and NYRA does nothing about it.

There is no reason why my tax dollar should be subsidizing corruption. Make it a for profit entity.

A non-profit in horse racing is ridiculous, and that goes for Keeneland too. They aren't really non-profits, they are ways for people that are corrupt to milk money out of the system. Keeneland is a non-profit that just happens to own polytrack. What a joke. It isn't just NYRA, but in NY it is my tax dollar.

Ding! Ding! Ding! We have a loser!

That contract does NOT continue. As for the specifics of Michael's work on the website, perhaps Barry should have forseen the appearance of a conflict of interest, but the facts ( since you are the self-proclaimed fact matron of this site ) are that his firm did the job and charged no more than any other competent firm would have charged for a comparable job.

Yes, they paid for transportation for those who paid to stable their horses at NYRA tracks other than the one currently racing. Nobody was treated differently, whether you were a trustee or Lael Stable or Joe Nobody, and this claim you, factgal, have chosen to use as an example was actually a distortion of the facts as no rules were broken.


Keep up the good work!

Sorry darling but I am still waiting for the list of even reformed-criminals still working at NYRA

Excellent points by Gary Delabonte. lol

The really funny thing though is how NYRA just left out Breeders Cup weekend from last year. If they included it the numbers would be down. What do we just pick the numbers we like. Last I checked the point was to increase handle no matter what, and NYRA did not do that.

It is like a pizza parlor in a Superbowl city going out of business and saying our revenue was up this year if you don't count the superbowl weekend from last year. Who cares. The revenues are still down.

WHICH tellers???? I will have those criminals led out in cuffs.

By the way, a little quiet at Belmont when you showed up yesterday? Or, perhaps you didn't notice.

Rev,

With due respect, you're points are misdirected.. If you want to say the franchise is better off in the hands of a for-profit, then just say so and say why. But to drag dead issues up over and over and over is pointless. You continue to use the misdeeds of prior management to paint current management as responsible.

Frank Stronach paid his son $2-$3 million in severance pay for the job he held at Gulfstream less than 4 months... What's your point? That nepotism finds its' way into business? Change your moniker to "Revolation" then..

You continue to EVADE the germain issue that the Noe-Meyocks-Schwartz administrations are long gone at NYRA... You refuse to address that.

And not to pull the insights card, but you're off base on where the alliances lie in terms of the state government and the forces involved with the bidding.

AND.. the marketing company has been widely lauded for the excellent response(s) their campaigns had in Saratoga attendence and visitors to the city.

AND, the Shuttle is NOT for Board members horses.. It's for anyone's horses that stable up or downstate and have to travel up or downstate to run at AQU, BEL and SAR...

You want a corporate entity running racing in NY? Fine.. But stop with misinformation and redressing of issues unconnected to those that have been running NY racing since Barry Schwartz resigned. It's unfair and you're perpetuating fallacies.

Yeah, and I am waiting from the evidence on Barry Bonds, Gary Sheffield and Jason Giambi. Give it up.

Did anyone know the names of the criminals when they were running rampant for all those years. Even if i knew names, I wouldn't give them, somebody like your friends would probably come break my knees. LOL.

chantal getting mounts could be a looked at as a crime..

You MUST know who they are since you continually call them criminals. I see no reason you and I shouldn't have a sit down with senior NYRA management so that you can tell them who these criminals are. I am quite certain they would greatly appreciate your help.

If you can't do this, then you aren't " just dealing in facts ", as you claimed earlier, and in fact are a disingenuous liar.

No surprise.

Nothing against you, but you have no credibility here. Does Carolina Barbeque have a contract with NYRA? Do they allow you to charge $3.50 for a coke at a non-profit racetrack? Don't tell me there aren't payoffs and kickbacks to get space selling food at Saratoga. That would be an insult to my intelligence.

Stronach can do whatever he wants. He has shareholders to answer to. Who does NYRA answer to? The taxpayers, and the taxpayers are me.

If NYRA is so well run now, How come they are still losing money, BY THE MILLIONS?

Just make it a for-profit, like everything else that runs correctly in america. How does a non-profit benefit horse racing. It doesn't.

give it a couple months... all will be forgotten... then the frankie stronach bashing will take over.

I would sit down with them, but thankfully they will be gone soon enough.

They will be around long enough to meet you.

Should they make the trip over from Aqueduct today to meet you at Belmont? My guess is you'll be easy to find.

My credibility is that I am a NY taxpayer and this non-profit is sucking millions out of the NY taxpayers pocket, frequently redistributing my tax dollar to their friends. It if was a for profit, I would have no problem with NYRA. They would have shareholders to answer to.