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Kasept 04-27-2016 04:27 PM

5/7 (CD): 142nd Kentucky Derby (G1); 6 U/C Graded Stakes
 
6th (1:13) Churchill Distaff Turf Mile S. (G2)

1 Mile (Turf) | Fillies and Mares | 4 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $300,000

1 1 Tepin Leparoux J R Casse Mark 123 L 1-2
2 2 Josdesanimaux Lezcano J Casse Mark 118 L 20-1
3 3 Cash Control Bridgmohan S X Cox Brad H 118 L 20-1
4 4 Isabella Sings Velazquez J R Pletcher Todd A 120 L 3-1
5 5 Bureau de Change Rosario J Lynch Brian A 118 L 30-1
6 6 Ticking Katie (IRE) Saez L Lynch Brian A 118 L 30-1
7 7 She's Not Here Smith M E Oliver Victoria 118 L 15-1
8 8 Zipessa Geroux F Stidham Michael 118 L 20-1
9 9 Rainha Da Bateria Castellano J J Brown Chad C 118 Blk-On L 12-1

Daily Double / Exacta / Trifecta / Superfecta / Pick 3 (Races 6-7-8)



7th (1:55) Churchill Downs S. (G2)

7 Furlongs | Open | 4 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $500,000

1 1 Kobe's Back Stevens G L Eurton Peter 120 L 4-1
2 2 Squadron A Lanerie C J Romans Dale 118 L 30-1
3 3 Calculator Alvarado J Miller Peter 118 L 9-2
4 4 Barbados Geroux F Tomlinson Michael A 118 L 12-1
5 5 Limousine Liberal Saez L Colebrook Ben 118 L 9-2
6 6 Speightster Lezcano J Mott William I 118 L 6-1
7 7 Holy Boss Santana R Jr Asmussen Steven M 118 L 8-1
8 8 Salutos Amigos Velasquez C Jacobson David 123 L 5-2
9 9 Catalina Red Castellano J J Navarro Jorge 118 L 15-1

Daily Double / Exacta / Trifecta / Superfecta / Pick 3 (Races 7-8-9) Pick 6 (Races 7-12)



8th (2:45) Humana Distaff S. (G1)

7 Furlongs | Fillies and Mares | 4 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $300,000

Prg. # PP Horse Jockey Trainer Wt. Claim $ Equip. Med. ML
1 1 Sarah Sis Geroux F Mason Ingrid 120 L 30-1
2 2 Stonetastic Lopez P Breen Kelly J 120 L 3-1
3 3 You Bought Her Landeros C Hinsley David H 118 L 30-1
4 4 Spelling Again Saez L Cox Brad H 120 L 15-1
5 5 Super Saks Hill C Lukas D Wayne 120 L 30-1
6 6 Enchanting Lady Castellano J J Baffert Bob 118 L 8-1
7 7 Kathballu Leparoux J R McPeek Kenneth G 118 L 12-1
8 8 Taris Prat F Callaghan Simon 120 L 5-2
9 9 Birdatthewire Smith M E Romans Dale 123 L 5-1
10 10 Wavell Avenue Rosario J Brown Chad C 123 L 3-1

Daily Double / Exacta / Trifecta / Superfecta / Pick 3 (Races 8-9-10) Pick 5 (Races 8-12)



9th (3:35) American Turf S. (G2)

1 1/16 Miles (Turf) | Open | 3 Year Olds Stakes | Purse: $300,000

1 1 Airoforce Leparoux J R Casse Mark 120 L 4-1
2 2 Cutacorner Court J K Van Berg Jack C 118 L 50-1
3 3 Converge Castellano J J Brown Chad C 120 L 5-1
4 4 Beach Patrol Prat F D'Amato Philip 118 L 8-1
5 5 Frank Conversation Gutierrez Mario O'Neill Doug 120 L 15-1
6 6 J R 's Holiday Jaramillo E Garoffalo Jose 120 L 8-1
7 7 Two Step Time Rosario J Maker Michael J 118 L 20-1
8 8 Shakhimat Wilson E Attfield Roger L 120 5-1
9 9 Camelot Kitten Ortiz I Jr Brown Chad C 118 Blk-On L 12-1
10 10 American Patriot Geroux F Pletcher Todd A 118 L 15-1
11 11 Dressed in Hermes Smith M E Armstrong Janet 120 L 5-1
12 12 Surgical Strike Saez L Colebrook Ben 118 L 20-1
13 13 Azar Velazquez J R Pletcher Todd A 123 L 10-1

Daily Double / Exacta / Trifecta / Superfecta / Pick 3 (Races 9-10-11) Pick 4 (Races 9-10-11-12)



10th (4:25) Pat Day Mile S. (G3)

1 Mile | Open | 3 Year Olds Stakes | Purse: $250,000

1 1 Discreetness Court J K Fires William H 120 L 12-1
2 2 Ralis Gutierrez Mario O'Neill Doug 118 Blk-On L 10-1
3 3 Torrontes Doyle S Gorder Kellyn 118 L 30-1
4 4 Gray Sky Hill C Lukas D Wayne 118 L 15-1
5 5 Imperial Hint Gallardo A A Carvajal, Jr. Luis 118 L 15-1
6 6 Sharp Azteca Zayas E J Navarro Jorge 118 L 8-1
7 7 Forevamo Geroux F Stall Albert M Jr 118 L 6-1
8 8 American Dubai Torres F C Richards Rodney C 118 L 20-1
9 9 Fellowship Lezcano J Casse Mark 118 L 5-1
10 10 Cocked and Loaded Ortiz I Jr Rivelli Larry 118 L 6-1
11 11 American Freedom Castellano J J Baffert Bob 118 L 6-1
12 12 Unbridled Outlaw Espinoza V Romans Dale 118 L 5-1
13 13 Star Hill Lanerie C J Arnold George R II 118 L 10-1
14 14 Lookin for a Kiss Lopez P Tomlinson Michael A 118 L 50-1

Daily Double / Exacta / Trifecta / Superfecta / Pick 3 (Races 10-11-12)



11th (5:25) Woodford Reserve Turf Classic S. (G1)

1 1/8 Miles (Turf) | Open | 4 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $500,000

1 1 Grand Tito Jaramillo E Delgado Gustavo 120 L 12-1
2 2 Chocolate Ride Castellano J J Cox Brad H 120 L 15-1
3 3 Bolo Smith M E Gaines Carla 118 L 8-1
4 4 Danish Dynaformer Velazquez J R Attfield Roger L 118 L 20-1
5 5 Reporting Star Saez L Walsh Brendan P 118 L 15-1
6 6 Slumber (GB) Ortiz I Jr Brown Chad C 120 L 3-1
7 7 Midnight Storm Espinoza V D'Amato Philip 120 L 10-1
8 8 Divisidero Prado E S Bradley William 120 L 15-1
9 9 Triple Threat (FR) Lezcano J Mott William I 120 L 15-1
10 10 Tourist Geroux F Mott William I 118 L 8-1
11 11 World Approval Leparoux J R Casse Mark 120 L 20-1
12 12 Big Blue Kitten Bravo J Brown Chad C 124 L 5-2
13 13 Kasaqui (ARG) Lopez P Correas Ignacio IV 118 L 50-1

Daily Double / Exacta / Trifecta / Superfecta / Pick 3 (Races 11-12-13) Pick 4 (Races 11-12-13-14)



12th (6:34) Kentucky Derby Presented by Yum! Brands (G1)

1 1/4 Miles | Open | 3 Year Olds Stakes | Purse: $2,000,000

1 1 Trojan Nation Gryder A T Gallagher Patrick 126 L 50-1
2 2 Suddenbreakingnews Quinonez L S Von Hemel Donnie K 126 L 20-1
3 3 Creator Santana R Jr Asmussen Steven M 126 L 10-1
4 4 Mo Tom Lanerie C J Amoss Thomas 126 L 20-1
5 5 Gun Runner Geroux F Asmussen Steven M 126 L 10-1
6 6 My Man Sam Ortiz I Jr Brown Chad C 126 L 20-1
7 7 Oscar Nominated Leparoux J R Maker Michael J 126 L 50-1
8 8 Lani Take Y Matsunaga Mikio 126 30-1
9 9 Destin Castellano J J Pletcher Todd A 126 L 15-1
10 10 Whitmore Espinoza V Moquett Ronald E 126 L 20-1
11 11 Exaggerator Desormeaux K J Desormeaux J Keith 126 L 8-1
12 12 Tom's Ready Hernandez B J Jr Stewart Dallas 126 L 30-1
13 13 Nyquist Gutierrez Mario O'Neill Doug 126 L 3-1
14 14 Mohaymen Alvarado J McLaughlin Kiaran P 126 L 10-1
15 15 Outwork Velazquez J R Pletcher Todd A 126 L 15-1
16 16 Shagaf Rosario J Brown Chad C 126 L 20-1
17 17 Mor Spirit Stevens G L Baffert Bob 126 L 12-1
18 18 Majesto Jaramillo E Delgado Gustavo 126 L 30-1
19 19 Brody's Cause Saez L Romans Dale 126 L 12-1
20 20 Danzing Candy Smith M E Sise Clifford Jr 126 L 15-1
21 AE Laoban Velasquez C Guillot Eric 126 Blk-Off L 50-1
22 AE Cherry Wine Albarado R J Romans Dale 126 L 30-1

Daily Double / Exacta / Trifecta / Superfecta / Pick 3 (Races 12-13-14) Super Hi-5

Kasept 05-04-2016 01:21 PM

DERBY DAY OVERNIGHT (PRE-5:30pm DERBY DRAW)

Alabama Stakes 05-04-2016 01:38 PM

Surprised they could get 8 to run against Tepin

senator L 05-04-2016 03:34 PM

Do the E's mean eligible? If so, then the 2 means
the 2nd condition? I never see that part on the entry,
is it only at the website and is it important information?
thank you

casp0555 05-04-2016 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alabama Stakes (Post 1063318)
Surprised they could get 8 to run against Tepin

They aint loaded into the gate yet......

Alabama Stakes 05-04-2016 04:51 PM

Well the draw went splendidly for the hoss I like

Benny 05-04-2016 05:48 PM

Post position draw for Derby
 
http://www.sbnation.com/2016/5/4/115...quist-mohaymen
Line Odds
1 Trojan Nation Aaron Gryder Patrick Gallagher 50-1
2 Suddenbreakingnews Luis Quinonez Donnie Von Hemel 20-1
3 Creator Ricardo Santana Jr Steven Asmussen 10-1
4 Mo Tom Corey Lanerie Thomas Amoss 20-1
5 Gun Runner Florent Geroux Steven Asmussen 10-1
6 My Man Sam Irad Ortiz Jr. Chad Brown 20-1
7 Oscar Nominated Julien Leparoux Michael Maker 20-1
8 Lani Yukata Take Mikio Matsunaga 30-1
9 Destin Javier Castellano Todd Pletcher 15-1
10 Whitmore Victor Espinoza Ron Moquett 20-1
11 Exaggerator Kent Desormeaux J. Keith Desormeaux 8-1
12 Tom's Ready Brian Hernandez Jr Dallas Stewart 30-1
13 Nyquist Mario Gutierrez Doug O'Neill 3-1
14 Mohaymen Junior Alvarado Kiaran McLaughlin 10-1
15 Outwork John Velazquez Todd Pletcher 15-1
16 Shagaf Joel Rosario Chad Brown 20-1
17 Mor Spirit Gary Stevens Bob Baffert 12-1
18 Majesto Emisael Jaramillo Gustavo Delgado 30-1
19 Brody's Cause Luis Saez Dale Romans 12-1
20 Danzing Candy Mike Smith Clifford Sise Jr 15-1

cakes44 05-04-2016 06:22 PM

I'd say Outwork with the biggest bump up from this.

geeker2 05-04-2016 06:34 PM

Which post starts the aux gate ?

Kasept 05-04-2016 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by senator L (Post 1063329)
Do the E's mean eligible? If so, then the 2 means
the 2nd condition? I never see that part on the entry,
is it only at the website and is it important information?
thank you

Date system. Sets priority for horses re-entry if they don't get in a race.

Kasept 05-04-2016 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by geeker2 (Post 1063353)
Which post starts the aux gate ?

#1-14; #15-20

cakes44 05-04-2016 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by geeker2 (Post 1063353)
Which post starts the aux gate ?

#15

Benny 05-04-2016 07:14 PM

nteresting that the projested speed is all outside posts,big run for position to the turn.

saratogadew 05-04-2016 07:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Benny (Post 1063347)
http://www.sbnation.com/2016/5/4/115...quist-mohaymen
Line Odds
1 Trojan Nation Aaron Gryder Patrick Gallagher 50-1
2 Suddenbreakingnews Luis Quinonez Donnie Von Hemel 20-1
3 Creator Ricardo Santana Jr Steven Asmussen 10-1
4 Mo Tom Corey Lanerie Thomas Amoss 20-1
5 Gun Runner Florent Geroux Steven Asmussen 10-1
6 My Man Sam Irad Ortiz Jr. Chad Brown 20-1
7 Oscar Nominated Julien Leparoux Michael Maker 20-1
8 Lani Yukata Take Mikio Matsunaga 30-1
9 Destin Javier Castellano Todd Pletcher 15-1
10 Whitmore Victor Espinoza Ron Moquett 20-1
11 Exaggerator Kent Desormeaux J. Keith Desormeaux 8-1
12 Tom's Ready Brian Hernandez Jr Dallas Stewart 30-1
13 Nyquist Mario Gutierrez Doug O'Neill 3-1
14 Mohaymen Junior Alvarado Kiaran McLaughlin 10-1
15 Outwork John Velazquez Todd Pletcher 15-1
16 Shagaf Joel Rosario Chad Brown 20-1
17 Mor Spirit Gary Stevens Bob Baffert 12-1
18 Majesto Emisael Jaramillo Gustavo Delgado 30-1
19 Brody's Cause Luis Saez Dale Romans 12-1
20 Danzing Candy Mike Smith Clifford Sise Jr 15-1

I believe #7 Oscar Nominated is 50-1. I think Battaglia made a mistake when reading off the odds.

Rudeboyelvis 05-04-2016 07:37 PM

Every major contender (in my book) sans Creator got a decent post. I don't recall that happening in recent memory.

RHT2004 05-04-2016 08:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis (Post 1063366)
Every major contender (in my book) sans Creator got a decent post. I don't recall that happening in recent memory.

Agree

3kings 05-04-2016 08:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis (Post 1063366)
Every major contender (in my book) sans Creator got a decent post. I don't recall that happening in recent memory.

You don't think Brody's Cause is compromised a bit or you don't think he's a contender?

Rudeboyelvis 05-04-2016 08:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 3kings (Post 1063380)
You don't think Brody's Cause is compromised a bit or you don't think he's a contender?

Tom... My opinion, but just not impressed - maybe a suck up underneath type, but not now.

3kings 05-04-2016 08:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis (Post 1063381)
Tom... My opinion, but just not impressed - maybe a suck up underneath type, but not now.

I was never using either, but the draw makes me feel better about that decision.

Mike 05-04-2016 09:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cakes44 (Post 1063352)
I'd say Outwork with the biggest bump up from this.

I agree

richard burch 05-04-2016 09:59 PM

1 Trojan Nation Aaron Gryder Patrick Gallagher 50-1
2 Suddenbreakingnews Luis Quinonez Donnie Von Hemel20-1
3 Creator Ricardo Santana Jr Steven Asmussen 10-1
4 Mo Tom Corey Lanerie Thomas Amoss 20-1
5 Gun Runner Florent Geroux Steven Asmussen 10-1
6 My Man Sam Irad Ortiz Jr. Chad Brown 20-1
7 Oscar Nominated Julien Leparoux Michael Maker 20-1
8 Lani Yukata Take Mikio Matsunaga 30-1
9 Destin Javier Castellano Todd Pletcher 15-1
10 Whitmore Victor Espinoza Ron Moquett 20-1
11 Exaggerator Kent Desormeaux J. Keith Desormeaux 8-1
12 Tom's Ready Brian Hernandez Jr Dallas Stewart 30-1
13 Nyquist Mario Gutierrez Doug O'Neill 3-1
14 Mohaymen Junior Alvarado Kiaran McLaughlin 10-1
15 Outwork John Velazquez Todd Pletcher 15-1
16 Shagaf Joel Rosario Chad Brown 20-1
17 Mor Spirit Gary Stevens Bob Baffert 12-1
18 Majesto Emisael Jaramillo Gustavo Delgado 30-1
19 Brody's Cause Luis Saez Dale Romans 12-1
20 Danzing Candy Mike Smith Clifford Sise Jr 15-1


$5 Box Exacta Good Luck everyone!:)

and $5 EX Nyquist 13 with 2-5-7-11-14-16-17-19


BAM!!! DONE! Good Luck everyone!:)

tanner12oz 05-04-2016 10:18 PM

Multi race bets look damn near impossible..

Benny 05-05-2016 06:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tanner12oz (Post 1063397)
Multi race bets look damn near impossible..

Crist always said to do doubles when multi'stough, but before 50 cent p3s

MinnSkinny 05-05-2016 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 3kings (Post 1063380)
You don't think Brody's Cause is compromised a bit or you don't think he's a contender?

The patriarch of the Albaugh Family Stables is another Iowa guy with quite the background.
Here's another of his hobbies:

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...21421273,d.ZGg

Revidere 05-06-2016 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MinnSkinny (Post 1063466)
The patriarch of the Albaugh Family Stables is another Iowa guy with quite the background.
Here's another of his hobbies:

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...21421273,d.ZGg

He is my neighbor in Ankeny. You would never know he is the richest man in Iowa. Class act.

helicopter11 05-06-2016 05:28 PM

OUTWORK and Danzing Candy for me

Alabama Stakes 05-06-2016 10:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Revidere (Post 1063607)
He is my neighbor in Ankeny. You would never know he is the richest man in Iowa. Class act.

You're the richest man in Iowa with your family and the ability to capture hoss on film like few other.

LITF 05-06-2016 11:56 PM

If the Oaks taught me anything today it's to look for a brilliant horse coming off a subpar performance. If I were an astute player I'd play Mohaymen hard tomorrow. An undefeated horse coming off an uncharacteristically poor performance in suffering his first career defeat. Sounds a lot like Cathryn Sophia to me, only you should get twice the price and then some. Too bad I'm not very smart and the 14 won't be on any of my tickets tomorrow.

Good luck to all!

Dunbar 05-07-2016 09:17 AM

Here's a link to somewhat "live" odds:

https://www.kentuckyderby.com/wager/...erby-live-odds

The last update now showing is for 11:55pm last night, with $1,081,035 in the win pool. Oddly, this morning I saw an update around 9am with 1,089,??? in the win pool. For some reason, they are right now showing the earlier totals.

Nyquist is showing at 2-1, but it's really 2.4-1 if you run the numbers.

senator L 05-07-2016 09:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dunbar (Post 1063773)
Here's a link to somewhat "live" odds:

https://www.kentuckyderby.com/wager/...erby-live-odds

The last update now showing is for 11:55pm last night, with $1,081,035 in the win pool. Oddly, this morning I saw an update around 9am with 1,089,??? in the win pool. For some reason, they are right now showing the earlier totals.

Nyquist is showing at 2-1, but it's really 2.4-1 if you run the numbers.

I'd say best value right now is Outwork at 28-1

Dunbar 05-07-2016 09:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by senator L (Post 1063777)
I'd say best value right now is Outwork at 28-1

I agree.

Others that look generous compared to my own line (in parenthesis) are

Destin 20-1 (13-1)
Whitmore 33-1 (20-1)
Shagaf 72-1 (45-1)
Majesto 62-1 (40-1)
Danzing Candy 30-1 (18-1)

I obviously don't think Shagaf and Majesto have much of a chance, but a better than 60-1 chance, IMO.

I hate Destin's long layoff and lack of experience. Without the long layoff I'd have him at 7-1. Still, 20-1 seems generous.

cakes44 05-07-2016 02:40 PM

Sweet ride on Airoforce!

jms62 05-07-2016 02:50 PM

Who was the last horse to win the Derby without a 9 furlong prep and how often has it happened?

cakes44 05-07-2016 03:34 PM

Navarro's got the good stuff today.

Revidere 05-07-2016 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alabama Stakes (Post 1063727)
You're the richest man in Iowa with your family and the ability to capture hoss on film like few other.

Thank you!

richard burch 05-08-2016 12:54 AM

Congrats to Nyquist and the connections. Looks like a Preakness winner too. The Belmont? not so sure.

Dunbar 05-08-2016 07:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dunbar (Post 1063793)
I agree. [about Outwork being an overlay]

Others that look generous compared to my own line (in parenthesis) are

Destin 20-1 (13-1)
Whitmore 33-1 (20-1)
Shagaf 72-1 (45-1)
Majesto 62-1 (40-1)
Danzing Candy 30-1 (18-1)

I obviously don't think Shagaf and Majesto have much of a chance, but a better than 60-1 chance, IMO.

I hate Destin's long layoff and lack of experience. Without the long layoff I'd have him at 7-1. Still, 20-1 seems generous.

Impressive performance by the group I though were overlays:
Aside from Destin's respectable 6th, they finished 14th, 15th, 18th, 19th, 20th. I could have had the tuchas trifecta.

OldDog 05-10-2016 11:07 AM



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