Oracle..IEAH buys Wild Desert?
 

I heard they bought him.Is this true? they must by flying high after yesterday.

I have absolutely no idea if they did or didn't. I only call IEAh when I have a horse they might be interested in and I don't ask Rick about his personal business with horses I have nothing to do with.
They have to excited about Kip not only because he won again, but because he finally rated kindly and finished well. It bodes well for his future as a horse to not be one dimensional.

What race did Kip win?

see keeneland

He won the stakes race at Keeneland yesterday on the grass at a mile under Leparoux.
And I just went to the IEAh website and they have anounced on the site that they bought an interest in Wild Desert. He ran a very good 2nd in the Meadowlands Cup the other night, and looks like the type who if well spotted can earn a lotta dough. Hes also won close to a million bucks and is by a sire who was really starting to take off before dying an early death. Millionaires who are graded winners can usually find someplace to stand at stud.
I like going to their website a lot because of the stretch replay of a race that greets you when you log in.

Thanks Mike. It is good they scratched him out of that Belmont race and put him in a real nice spot! It looks like their strategy paid off!

Finding the right spot is what its all about in this game. Ricky plays that game as well as anyone alive.

You forgot to mention that he is really awesome looking too. ;)

You shoulda told me you were gonna be at that sale yesterday, I would have come over and said howdy. I live a mile from the place, but I stayed home and watched racing and football.

Pletcher does it just a little better. No knock on Dutrow but putting the horse in his previous race against Brilliant was moronic. You don't run speed horses in a swamp.

Kip was smart to avoid Showing Up. Showing Up put up another 107 beyer. Kip put up a nice 97.

That swamp was unavoidable and noone knew when pointing to that race that conditions were going to be that bad.
Brilliant was dreadful on Saturday with a no excuse perfect trip.
And as Dutrow was smart to avoid Showing Up, so was Tagg smart to avoid the big boys again in the BC this year.

Next time! I'm sure you were much more warm than I was though! :D

Yeah, the choice between standing in the cold watching em run 250 NY breds through a ring or watching racing and football in a warm house really wasn't a choice I had to struggle with.

I lost money on Kip that day.

George Washington, the poster, says the Jacksons plan on speaking to Tagg about the Breeders Cup mile now that George Washington, the horse, is confirmed for the Breeders Cup Classic.

What race? What race? Why it was the 6th running of the famed Bryan Station.. They'll write songs about it! The one they were sure Showing Up wouldn't be in..

I would consider it as well if I were them. The Mile can always be won by any good horse. Its a race where the trip is the key to the whole thing, you get 12-14 horses trying to go around two turns in tight quarters and you are always going to need tremendous luck in order to win.
I guess they have to consider whether or not they wanna go there and skip the Hollywood derby, or just go to Hollywood where they would be heavily favored in a big purse. As sharp as Showing Up is right now, I really would think running him in the mile would be a good idea.

LOL, I imagine not!

They can run in both the Hollywood Derby and the Breeders Cup. They are 3 weeks apart.

Revolution, you know nothing, and I doubt the friends or brother know much more.
Tagg will not race this horse 3 times in 9 weeks, he will NOT do that.
Is it theoretically possible? yes, just about everything is.
But a responsible trainer like Tagg will not risk putting his horse through the grind of that schedule and all that shipping on a horse with a very bright future.
Its either gonna be BC or Hollywood, but not both.

plus if Mike watchmaker knows anything (which I happen to think he does) this is what he had to say...And last week, Tagg removed Showing Up from consideration for both the Breeders' Cup Turf and Breeders' Cup Mile,

I doubt showing up goes in the BC, it's just not Tagg's style.

Well when Barclay did that, GW was considered as going in the mile.
With GW going in the classic instead, and with that powerhouse performance this past weekend, they may reconsider.
Barclay isn't the type of guy(when left to his own devices by owners who don't try to pretend that they know more about the game than he does) to take a three year old who has a bright future and run him at Belmont, ship and run 3 weeks later, ship back to Belmont and then ship out to Hollywood to run 3 weeks later again.
They have to make a decision on way or the other.

First, it would be 3 races in 6 weeks, not 9 weeks. And you are telling me I know nothing. That is funny.

Second, Pride and Hurricane Run are going to have 3 races in 5 weeks at longer distances with a trip from Europe if they come. This is grass racing, not dirt racing. Learn something you fool.

Third, George Washington, the poster, knows a hell of a lot more about this horse than you, and he e-mailed me that Showing Up is probably going to the Breeders Cup for the mile, and then the Hollywood Derby if he comes out of the race ok. He then is going to be off until the end of January when he will be looking at the Sunshine Millions Turf at Gulfstream (and I am going with Nostradamus). :)

Considering George Washington, the poster, told you George Washington was going to the Classic, and you and eurobounce said he knew nothing, I think he knows quite a bit more about these horses than you.

Last I checked he was the one introducing me to Mr. Jackson on Saturday, not you.

He also told us he was definitely going to the mile(GW on GW the horse).
Thats a pretty neat trick, basically you just cover all the bases and then take credit for being right.;)

I really like this horse(Showing Up) and think he will be the US based division leader next year.
I always admire talent.

There is no need to lie Oracle. Please show me the tread where Chris said GW was going to the mile.

I see here where he said he was going to the Classic.
http://www.derbytrail.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5634

I also see another thread where he said Eurobounce shouldn't be saying GW is going to the mile because no decision has been made. He knew that because he knows that guy Tim over there.

Facts, Oracle. Show me facts. Provide the link if you say somebody said something.

Cute Oracle, throw up a thread and people will think it is somewhere in there. This thread has eurobounce saying he is going to the mile and Chris saying eurobounce doesn't know what he is talking about.

Why don't you pull the language from this thread where he says what you claimed he said.

I love you phonies that go around saying how you never lie and you are above everyone. 99% of the time you guys are the biggest liars.

"George Washington is going to run in the Classic? Thanks for the tip. First I heard of it. A couple weeks ago the people here told me the guys at ballydoyle would never do that. I guess you guys know better than the people who train the horse and the people that bred him. I will let them know it is ok with derbytrail.

Just to let you know, Dylan Thomas had nothing to do with the decision. It has to do with his future stallion career."


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Originally Posted by eurobounce
Aussie Rules doesnt stand a chance in the Mile. GW needs to be in the Mile.


"Yes. I believe you told us this weeks ago. Put it at 74% or something. I think Ballydoyle knows what they are doing, but I will let Corballis know.

Oracle, still waiting for you to tell me who your friend is that knows Dr. O'Byrne."

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IMO, he sounds conflicted... he can't make his mind up whether or not he's going in the mile or the BCC. ;)

It is. And you left out the eyewink.

Oracle claimed to know somebody at Ballydoyle and Chris gave him his friends name there and Oracle was going to tell him who he knew there. Oracle never produced a name. He is a liar. I went with Chris to Belmont one morning and we waited for Oracle to show up at the Vet Village and he never showed. The guy loves to call everyone liars and is the biggest liar here.

There was an original post before this where eurobounce said GW was going to the BCM and Chris said he shouldn't post that because GW might not be coming at all or he might go to the Classic.

I find it comical that you're calling him a liar, yet when Scav posted this as fact that your buddy "georgewashington" was saying he WASN'T going in the BCC, you can't just accept that...

Talk about the pot calling the kettle black. :eek:

The thread says it right in it. He is 51-49 to go in the Classic. They originally were saying here he was going in the mile and he was saying they didn't know that.

Oracle then shot off his mouth about who he knew at Ballydoyle and Chris called him on it. He couldn't provide a name. What a surprise.

I don't trust anything my housemate, Nostradamus, says, but his brother is in the business. He doesn't lie either. He doesn't even gamble, which was shocking to me.

What did Scav post as fact? Provide the language. Also provide where it says he WASN'T going to the BCC.

Do you people all just defend Oracle as your savior? Now I see why Nostradamus loved it here. You all are full of it, he fits right in.

Believe me, I don't defend Oracle all the time, but I'm sorry... he is right in this case. You were called out on a blatant lie and now you can't handle it. It was posted already by myself and Scav. COMEDY! :D

Chris was right, this board is full of crap. People twist facts. I guess that is what type of board you should expect when the "leader" of the board is someone who can't get along with a person like Michael Dickinson.

This is a very Dutrow-like board. I think I am going to stick to the boards where people aren't lunatics.

I didn't think Oracle was some guy with low self-esteem who is nobody in the business, but I should have listened to the guys who know what they are talking about.

More outright lies. Show me the post where I said I knew someone from Ballydoyle.
Its pretty sad that every other word out of your mouth is an outright lie.

so is Wild Desert running in the BC Classic?
Volponi angle.



Repent

Reported in Thoroughbred Times TODAY, he will either go to the Classic or the Clark.

Rebel Rebel to the Morvich on the 29th then to the Hong Kong Mile.

They are still 'on the fence' with Kip Devill who is not nominated to the program.

Seek,
I talk to Mike Sherack now and then on the phone and am friendly with him, I'll ask him about Desert.
I just now got off the phone with good friend and client Sanford Robbins who is a partner in both Kip Deville and Rebel Rebel, he just had some surgery and was calling to tell he "made it", lol. He said they hadn't decided on Kip yet and he is looking forward to Rebel Rebel's races.
Hes also a partner in Wonder Lady Anne L(he originally owned all of her) and said he will be running soon and that they had made a decision to race on with her instead of retiring her.
I don't know how people can talk out of one side of their mouths that retiring horses is killing the game, then out of the other side of their mouths bash guys who take a crack with a longshot and keep their horses in training and running. Obviously they aren't Bernadini type horses, but nonetheless these guys are real gamers and love to race their horses.

Tell him to give Wild Desert lots of kisses and peppermints and send him my best with whatever they decide. :) (I'm very fond of this good looking horse if you haven't noticed)

I FULLY agree with your bolded statement.