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Rupert Pupkin 10-11-2006 04:23 AM

Woman awarded $11 Million for Defamatory Internet Posts
 
I just read in USA Today that a woman won $11 million in a lawsuit in which she sued another woman for derrogatory internet posts. One woman called the other a "crook", a "con-artist" and a "fraud" in posts on the internet. The woman was not happy about being called these things so she sued the other woman and won an $11 million judgement.

This should be a lesson to everyone to use some discretion before posting.

Round Pen 10-11-2006 04:50 AM

:eek: Holy Cow

ninetoone 10-11-2006 06:03 AM

Sounds a little excessive doesn't it? You guys can call me those things for $20 if you want.

paisjpq 10-11-2006 09:11 AM

thank you Rupert for posting this. It reinforces the message we have been trying to convey around here, that an idea can be attacked but not an individual.

Coach Pants 10-11-2006 09:13 AM

Seems like the person that sued would be better suited for a postnatal abortion.

paisjpq 10-11-2006 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Pillow Pants
Seems like the person that sued would be better suited for a postnatal abortion.

perhaps, but she won didn't she? I wouldn't want to take my chances in court.

zippyneedsawin 10-11-2006 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin
I just read in USA Today that a woman won $11 million in a lawsuit in which she sued another woman for derrogatory internet posts. One woman called the other a "crook", a "con-artist" and a "fraud" in posts on the internet. The woman was not happy about being called these things so she sued the other woman and won an $11 million judgement.

This should be a lesson to everyone to use some discretion before posting.


Is there a link(to the article)? Who was sued, the poster or the web site, or both? The context of this case must be much worse than just what's on the surface here for that type of judgement. Very interesting.

Coach Pants 10-11-2006 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by paisjpq
perhaps, but she won didn't she? I wouldn't want to take my chances in court.

I'll take my chances now that i've read the story. These two had real life dealings...

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A Florida woman has been awarded $11.3 million in a defamation lawsuit against a Louisiana woman who posted messages on the Internet accusing her of being a "crook," a "con artist" and a "fraud."

Legal analysts say the Sept. 19 award by a jury in Broward County, Fla. — first reported Friday by the Daily Business Review — represents the largest such judgment over postings on an Internet blog or message board. Lyrissa Lidsky, a University of Florida law professor who specializes in free-speech issues, calls the award "astonishing."

Lidsky says the case could represent a coming trend in court fights over online messages because the woman who won the damage award, Sue Scheff of Weston, Fla., pursued the case even though she knew the defendant, Carey Bock of Mandeville, La., has no hope of paying such an award. Bock, who had to leave her home for several months because of Hurricane Katrina, couldn't afford an attorney and didn't show up for the trial.

"What's interesting about this case is that (Scheff) was so vested in being vindicated, she was willing to pay court costs," Lidsky says. "They knew before trial that the defendant couldn't pay, so what's the point in going to the jury?"

Scheff says she wanted to make a point to those who unfairly criticize others on the Internet. "I'm sure (Bock) doesn't have $1 million, let alone $11 million, but the message is strong and clear," Scheff says. "People are using the Internet to destroy people they don't like, and you can't do that."

The dispute between the two women arose after Bock asked Scheff for help in withdrawing Bock's twin sons from a boarding school in Costa Rica. Bock had disagreed with her ex-husband over how to deal with the boys' behavior problems. Against Bock's wishes, he had sent the boys to the boarding school.

Scheff, who operates a referral service called Parents Universal Resource Experts, says she referred Bock to a consultant who helped Bock retrieve her sons. Afterward, Bock became critical of Scheff and posted negative messages about her on the Internet site Fornits.com, where parents with children in boarding schools for troubled teens confer with one another.

In 2003, Scheff sued Bock for defamation. Bock hired a lawyer, but he left the case when she no longer could afford to pay him.

When Katrina hit in August 2005, Bock's house was flooded and she moved temporarily to Texas before returning to Louisiana last June. Court papers that Scheff and her attorney David H. Pollack mailed to Bock were returned to Pollack's office in Miami.

After Bock didn't offer a defense, a Broward Circuit Court judge found in favor of Scheff. A jury then heard Scheff's arguments about damages. Pollack did not seek a specific amount for the harm he says Scheff's business suffered.

"Even with no opposing counsel and no defendant there, $11 million is a huge amount," says Pollack, adding that Scheff is considering whether to try to collect any money from Bock. "The jury determined this was a significant enough issue. It's not just somebody's feelings are hurt; it's somebody's reputation is ruined."

Bock says that when she moved back to her repaired house over the summer, she knew the trial was approaching but did not know the date. She says she doesn't have the money to pay the judgment or hire a lawyer to appeal it. She adds that if the goal of Scheff's lawsuit was to stifle what Bock says online, it worked.

"I don't feel like I can express my opinions," Bock says. "Only one side of the story was told in court. Nobody heard my side."

Coach Pants 10-11-2006 09:24 AM

She sued a hurricane katrina victim who had no money and couldn't afford a lawyer. What a scumbag.

Antitrust32 10-11-2006 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Pillow Pants
She sued a hurricane katrina victim who had no money and couldn't afford a lawyer. What a scumbag.

You better watch what you say about her!!! she may be scanning the internet looking for more victims to sue! She may try to take your Breeders Cup wagering money!

Coach Pants 10-11-2006 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32
You better watch what you say about her!!! she may be scanning the internet looking for more victims to sue! She may try to take your Breeders Cup wagering money!

LOL.

Seriously I hope a good lawyer takes her case pro bono and appeals it. It would be a slam dunk considering what she's been through. Unbelievable that a jury awarded that woman $11 million.

Thunder Gulch 10-11-2006 10:39 AM

Hope nobody decides to chase after Oracle. ;)

Buffymommy 10-11-2006 10:41 AM

This is a scary thing. But ya know Broward County is full of weirdos... :)

Buffymommy 10-11-2006 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Thunder Gulch
Hope nobody decides to chase after Oracle. ;)

HA HA! That's funny! Nah, I have to file in Martin County, FLorida. They aren't as weird there. :) :D

Cajungator26 10-11-2006 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Buffymommy
HA HA! That's funny! Nah, I have to file in Martin County, FLorida. They aren't as weird there. :) :D

I used to live in Martin County. :D (Jensen Beach, FL.)

Seattleallstar 10-11-2006 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Pillow Pants
I'll take my chances now that i've read the story. These two had real life dealings...


this is BS, I cant wait til become a lawyer/lawmaker

Cajungator26 10-11-2006 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Seattleallstar
this is BS, I cant wait til become a lawyer/lawmaker

This is hilarious...

Have you finished law school yet? :eek:

Seattleallstar 10-11-2006 11:14 AM

Caj, I made a very stupid decision regarding law school, at the last second a past prof of mine pulled some strings to get me in, but I ****ed up all for a stupid dellusion.

dr. fager 10-11-2006 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Pillow Pants
I'll take my chances now that i've read the story. These two had real life dealings...

exactly, it's not calling a random stranger an imbecile.

however, I like it friendly around here.

Cajungator26 10-11-2006 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by dr. fager
exactly, it's not calling a random stranger an imbecile.

however, I like it friendly around here.

Me too... the "friendlier", the better. :eek: :D

dr. fager 10-11-2006 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Cajungator26
Me too... the "friendlier", the better. :eek: :D

did Magnum finish yet?

Cajungator26 10-11-2006 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by dr. fager
did Magnum finish yet?

LMAO... oh shut up! :p

eurobounce 10-11-2006 01:03 PM

Well where do they think this $11mm is going to come from. Plus it will be appealed and the damages will be musch less.

Rupert Pupkin 10-11-2006 01:11 PM

If you say bad things about a horse on this board, I wonder if the horse could sue you.

Cajungator26 10-11-2006 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin
If you say bad things about a horse on this board, I wonder if the horse could sue you.

That is hilarious, Richie...

With as many times as certain horses have been called "rats" on this board, I can only imagine how much $$ we'd be sued for. :D

Antitrust32 10-11-2006 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Cajungator26
That is hilarious, Richie...

With as many times as certain horses have been called "rats" on this board, I can only imagine how much $$ we'd be sued for. :D


Bernardini will sue all of you who dont rank him as an all time great for demeaning his character!

Downthestretch55 10-11-2006 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin
If you say bad things about a horse on this board, I wonder if the horse could sue you.

Sure they can. Damages would be hay, oats, carrots and apples.
Can't wait to see one sit on the witness stand...
"Raise your hoof and repeat after me..."

ninetoone 10-11-2006 02:25 PM

I'm on my way to sign up for umpire school...the way I figure it, I can retire early after sueing all the crazy parents who think their kid is the next A-Rod...oops, I mean Jeter...:) :)

Crown@club 10-11-2006 06:31 PM

If Bock had money, I'm sure any lawyer would go to the higher courts to have the decision reversed on 1st amendment freedom of speech.

If you read the story, it sounds like Scheff's consultants did not work well for the needs of what Bock wanted done. Things did not work out. Bock goes out there and says this did not work well for me, I tried them, they are more talk.....blah.blah.blah. File Suit.

Its called a referral! and Bock was probably telling the truth.

We caught an Embezzler. We did not file charges. We just fired her. Her potential Employer calls us on referral. We tell the truth. She doesn't get the job. What is she going to do? Sue us? Ha!

Danzig 10-11-2006 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Crown@club
If Bock had money, I'm sure any lawyer would go to the higher courts to have the decision reversed on 1st amendment freedom of speech.

If you read the story, it sounds like Scheff's consultants did not work well for the needs of what Bock wanted done. Things did not work out. Bock goes out there and says this did not work well for me, I tried them, they are more talk.....blah.blah.blah. File Suit.

Its called a referral! and Bock was probably telling the truth.

We caught an Embezzler. We did not file charges. We just fired her. Her potential Employer calls us on referral. We tell the truth. She doesn't get the job. What is she going to do? Sue us? Ha!

actually she probably could sue! most former employers will only say whether they would re-hire a former employee.
a very litigious society we live in, when every minor fender bender has the potential to turn into a lottery winning type deal. it's unbelievable. but also what happens when people give obscene awards for damages.

Crown@club 10-11-2006 06:58 PM

I was actually just using it as a point. I should had said. The potential employer asked if she was elgible for rehire. We said no. (Next Question)

repent 10-12-2006 12:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin
If you say bad things about a horse on this board, I wonder if the horse could sue you.


I sure hope not.
i have a bunch of unopened mail from the someone claiming to be the legal representative of smarty jones.


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Seattleallstar 10-12-2006 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by repent
I sure hope not.
i have a bunch of unopened mail from the someone claiming to be the legal representative of smarty jones.


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i got one from Midway Road too

chromer 10-12-2006 08:35 PM

It's a default judgement. That's like winning a boxing match against the punching bag. Congratulations.

And it was based on actual libel against someone who was named by more than an internet id. Here's the lesson: Tell the truth. Or don't use names.

"Chromer is a (choose your libel)". Safe legal grounds.

(choose your least favorite racing icon) is a (choose your libel). Probably bad news. Unless you can afford a good lawyer.

oracle80 10-12-2006 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Seattleallstar
i got one from Midway Road too

Well heck you threatened his life Seattle.

repent 10-13-2006 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by oracle80
Well heck you threatened his life Seattle.


lmao,
those were great times.

Im not sure what it was that Jerry actually said, but those losers were going nuts just b/c I hated that damn groom.

the funniest part about the whole thing is that I read where Midway Toad was actually standing stud in Hempstead, TX. thats like 30 minutes from where I grew up and went to school.
i can assure you its not where good thoroughbreds go to stand stud.

Midway Toad sucked as a racehorse and Im sure he is going to suck as a sire.
what a bad racehorse who fooled a lot of ppl b/c of one good run on a sloppy track at Keeneland.


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