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Seattleallstar 10-02-2006 10:49 AM

Bush signs bill making internet gambling illegal
 
this was an effort designed to curb online poker and gaming, but where does horse racing fit into all of this

Scav 10-02-2006 10:53 AM

I don't know, they just said that it also affects Neteller also, unbelievable

Coach Pants 10-02-2006 11:04 AM

Incorrect. Bush hasn't signed it yet.

He should within the next two weeks.

Seattleallstar 10-02-2006 11:06 AM

but its gonna happen

already heard that alot of sports betting, and poker sites will block US users when in fact Bush signs it in the next couple of weeks

Coach Pants 10-02-2006 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Seattleallstar
but its gonna happen

already heard that alot of sports betting, and poker sites will block US users when in fact Bush signs it in the next couple of weeks

Uh yeah that's a given.

somerfrost 10-02-2006 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Seattleallstar
but its gonna happen

already heard that alot of sports betting, and poker sites will block US users when in fact Bush signs it in the next couple of weeks


Thank god for the religious right...without them we'd have no moral compass to lead us out of the darkness...please folks, vote in the upcoming election and let these clown know we'd like to make our own decisions!!! And to think, I voted for Bush....what was I thinking?

Seattleallstar 10-02-2006 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by somerfrost
Thank god for the religious right...without them we'd have no moral compass to lead us out of the darkness...please folks, vote in the upcoming election and let these clown know we'd like to make our own decisions!!! And to think, I voted for Bush....what was I thinking?


What was wrong with John Kerry in the first place

GenuineRisk 10-02-2006 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by somerfrost
Thank god for the religious right...without them we'd have no moral compass to lead us out of the darkness...please folks, vote in the upcoming election and let these clown know we'd like to make our own decisions!!! And to think, I voted for Bush....what was I thinking?

Ah, Somer; I ask myself the same thing about you. (SOOOO teasing-- you know I think you're the bee's knees). :) Hey, I spent last election knocking on doors in the pouring rain-- fat lot of good it did my candidate...

Seattleallstar 10-02-2006 11:26 AM

GR, i was interviewed by channel 5 after Kerry's concession speech, as rep of the UW young democrats. We were robbed in OHio

Coach Pants 10-02-2006 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Seattleallstar
GR, i was interviewed by channel 5 after Kerry's concession speech, as rep of the UW young democrats. We were robbed in OHio

Every homophobe in america made their mind up when they saw the picture of Kerry wind surfing.

somerfrost 10-02-2006 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Pillow Pants
Every homophobe in america made their mind up when they saw the picture of Kerry wind surfing.

I just didn't like Kerry...all that crap about him mortgaging his home while he's married to one of the richest women around...I plain didn't trust him, besides he looked like Lurch! Algore? How can you vote for that squirrel? I mean besides inventing the internet...lol! I just hope the Dems nominate someone I can vote for!!! I want Hillary to be the nominee! There are a couple more I could support but she's at the top of my list! Now if the republicans nominate Rudy...I'd have to think about it...I do like that guy!

Seattleallstar 10-02-2006 12:14 PM

what about Barrack frostie

Coach Pants 10-02-2006 12:22 PM

I withdrew all of my cash last night and am currently sweating it out until I recieve the funds.

somerfrost 10-02-2006 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seattleallstar
what about Barrack frostie

Jerry
I like him a lot, he'd get my vote in a heartbeat but I don't think it's his time yet cause he's not that well known...Clinton and him would be a great ticket though!

Scav 10-02-2006 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Pillow Pants
I withdrew all of my cash last night and am currently sweating it out until I recieve the funds.

Did the same thing and got it through Pinnacle, already got paid, thus a good thing

Downthestretch55 10-02-2006 01:10 PM

This is totally crazy.
http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/Con...l=969048863851

Downthestretch55 10-02-2006 01:26 PM

These guys are folding.
http://www.marketwatch.com/News/Stor...ist=TNMostRead

Seattleallstar 10-02-2006 01:30 PM

im on my lunch break, and called up TVG and I was just informed that horse racing will not be affected and that it is exempt

Scav 10-02-2006 02:08 PM

i just emailed Pinnacle to see what they have to say

Scav 10-02-2006 02:12 PM

From Pinnacle C/S
 
Dear Sir,


Thank you for your email.

We are aware of the recent action by Congress to pass the Safe Port Act which includes certain provisions to limit the growth of Internet gaming through the restriction of payments to gaming companies. This bill does not expressly make Internet gaming illegal, nor does it look to target players who enjoy gambling online. Instead, it seeks to prevent online players by restricting the methods bettors can use to fund their Internet wagers.

Pinnacle Sports is licensed by the Government of the Netherlands Antilles and in our licensing agreement it is a legal requirement that we maintain
sufficient funds to be able to honor the winnings of all of our customers at anytime. Pinnacle Sports has earned an industry leading reputation for
providing the quickest payouts online and you can rest assured that your winnings will always be paid. You will continue to have access to your
funds 24/7.

Pinnacle Sports encourages all clients to consult with an independent legal advisor or their local attorney general's office as to the legality of online gaming in their area.

Pinnacle Sports has active customers from more than 100 different countries worldwide and we remain committed to providing a safe, secure
and rewarding online gaming experience for all of our players.

Regards,

Customer Service Department
Pinnacle Sports

GenuineRisk 10-02-2006 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by somerfrost
I just didn't like Kerry...all that crap about him mortgaging his home while he's married to one of the richest women around...I plain didn't trust him, besides he looked like Lurch! Algore? How can you vote for that squirrel? I mean besides inventing the internet...lol! I just hope the Dems nominate someone I can vote for!!! I want Hillary to be the nominee! There are a couple more I could support but she's at the top of my list! Now if the republicans nominate Rudy...I'd have to think about it...I do like that guy!

Oh no! No! Somer, I beg of you; don't fall for the Giuliani hype! I'll find some links...

I wish the Gore who showed up to the MTV Video Awards...

"I actually was not intending to be here tonight, but then MTV explained that Justin Timberlake was bringing sexy back."

... had been around in 2000. Oy. What is it about running for President that turns candidates into two-by-fours? Gore, Kerry, Dole...

Coach Pants 10-02-2006 02:18 PM

Al Gore invented the ozone layer and the republicans want to take it away. Oh the horror!!

Danzig 10-02-2006 02:48 PM

from what i read the other day, horse racing is EXEMPT from this bill.

alysheba4 10-02-2006 03:00 PM

thats whats so great about my guy........ pays or collects every 2 weeks and will go as high as 5 dimes a game. that overseas stuff is salad......

Scav 10-02-2006 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig188
from what i read the other day, horse racing is EXEMPT from this bill.

True, but they are talking about on-shore horse racing, not offshore, rebates BYE BYE

2MinsToPost 10-02-2006 03:53 PM

correct, the folks at Americatab and their no rebate biz gotta be loving this

timmgirvan 10-02-2006 04:04 PM

So that leaves TVG(cough) and Youbet as the only viable rebate/rewards sites in US?

Scav 10-02-2006 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by timmgirvan
So that leaves TVG(cough) and Youbet as the only viable rebate/rewards sites in US?

and they don't necessarily have rebates, they have reward programs that are essentially garbage

timmgirvan 10-02-2006 04:29 PM

Scavs: agreed!

Coach Pants 10-02-2006 04:38 PM

TVG is complete garbage. I bet they raise their fees accordingly considering the news.

JJP 10-02-2006 04:52 PM

Pinny and the others will come up w/an alternative way to transfer funds, I guarantee you. And snail mail is still an option; a bit inconvenient, but with 7% at stake, its worth it.

ezrabrooks 10-02-2006 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by somerfrost
Jerry
I like him a lot, he'd get my vote in a heartbeat but I don't think it's his time yet cause he's not that well known...Clinton and him would be a great ticket though!

Do you think your beloved Israel would get the same support with those two?.

Ez

skippy3481 10-02-2006 06:04 PM

This is so going to backfire on them. More people gamble on the internet then they think and they are not all democrats. I tend to think of myself as a conservative person but this will push me away from voting for people that believe in this bill How stupid can the government be.

chromer 10-02-2006 06:41 PM

The crash in stocks of euro and caribbean gaming companies is a vast overreaction to the passage of this bill and anyone who likes money would be wise to buy low now so you can sell high later.

The idea that you will be unable to move money through an offshore account is laughable. They have driven it underground. Look for new sites set up in the next few days that will take your money and forward it to any site you want.

You won't be able to use a $US demoninated credit card but if you were using a credit card to fund your gambling you were already an idiot.

skippy3481 10-02-2006 06:52 PM

Chromer i have to disagree. I use a credit card for all gaming transactions, much eaiser to cancel a credit card if they lose it then your back account. Beyond that, i earn cash back on all purchases. it doesn't matter what you use to put funds in your account. As long as you can afford it.


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