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2MinsToPost 10-02-2006 08:43 AM

thoughts from yesterday
 
Patriots are back and firing on 8 cylinders. Question is can they produce week in and out from now till January?

Jets played 3 great quarters yesterday. That game was a classic battle.

Da Bears, nuff said. Props to Grossman especailly, he's a gamer.

Mark Brunell shut up his critics yesterday! What a game that was, I was tuned into that one (thank god for the NFL Ticket package) like a fly on dog pupoo.

Miami needs help, sad state of affairs down their. Whose Offensive line was worse yesterday, Texans or Dolphins?

Tonite's game should be real interesting.

Oh yea last thought, Believe In Blue. I was so glad to see Tony Dungy get all fired up, bout time he showed a little emotion. Love that!

oracle80 10-02-2006 09:17 AM

I think the biggest thing that stood out to me was that Hasselbeck, in reality, is the same old loser who tosses interceptions that he always was.
He was always a clown, but in the system with Alexander he had the luxury of not facing blitzes and heat very often. The other teams have to stay back and play the run and hawk Alexander.
He was tragic last night, and the Bears brought everything but the kitchen sink at him and exposed him to what he truly is, an adequate(at best) qb who makes bad decisions and forces the ball when hes under heat.
Teams playing the Seahawks while Alexander is out would be wise to just do the same thing, blitz and stunt at him from start to finish. He looked like a beaten man on the sidelines during the whole game with no confidence at all. Doesn't take much for a guy like that to crash down to the reality that hes not real good, and they ain't going anywhere this year now. The only way the Seahawks go to the super bowl this year is if they get good tickets.

Scav 10-02-2006 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by oracle80
I think the biggest thing that stood out to me was that Hasselbeck, in reality, is the same old loser who tosses interceptions that he always was.
He was always a clown, but in the system with Alexander he had the luxury of not facing blitzes and heat very often. The other teams have to stay back and play the run and hawk Alexander.
He was tragic last night, and the Bears brought everything but the kitchen sink at him and exposed him to what he truly is, an adequate(at best) qb who makes bad decisions and forces the ball when hes under heat.
Teams playing the Seahawks while Alexander is out would be wise to just do the same thing, blitz and stunt at him from start to finish. He looked like a beaten man on the sidelines during the whole game with no confidence at all. Doesn't take much for a guy like that to crash down to the reality that hes not real good, and they ain't going anywhere this year now. The only way the Seahawks go to the super bowl this year is if they get good tickets.

Mike, the Bears BARELY blitzed last night, they didn't need to, I'll count when I rewatch the game but they BARELY blitzed, maybe twice all game. EVEN if they have Alexander, they might score one more TD. What they don't have is an offensive line. Walter Jones (Sporting News supposed best player in the NFL) got SMOKED ALL game, and Hasselback has a skid mark on his pants from running from Tommie Harris, what is so hilarious was the play that Harris came in clean and then he got smoked by Anderson....

Just bought some suntan lotion for Feb 4th.

BellamyRd. 10-02-2006 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Scav
Mike, the Bears BARELY blitzed last night, they didn't need to, I'll count when I rewatch the game but they BARELY blitzed, maybe twice all game. EVEN if they have Alexander, they might score one more TD. What they don't have is an offensive line. Walter Jones (Sporting News supposed best player in the NFL) got SMOKED ALL game, and Hasselback has a skid mark on his pants from running from Tommie Harris, what is so hilarious was the play that Harris came in clean and then he got smoked by Anderson....

Just bought some suntan lotion for Feb 4th.

'ats a pretty bold move 'ar Scavs
don't wanna be stuck seein' the Cowboys now do ya?
guess you could always sell um if worse come to worse
Thomas Jones ain't no Walter Payton

Scav 10-02-2006 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by BellamyRd.
'ats a pretty bold move 'ar Scavs
don't wanna be stuck seein' the Cowboys now do ya?
guess you could always sell um if worse come to worse
Thomas Jones ain't no Walter Payton

WE DON'T NEED A RB, we have the 2nd coming of Brett Favre, and how fitting is it that he is on a team that he tormented for years and years.

Cowboys couldn't hold our jockstrap, our O-Line would hold them and our D-Line would eat up their O-Line...You have Columbo starting, a Bears 1st round draft pick that we cut.....72' Dolphins better watch out, because we are coming...We have 3 hard games in a row, and if we get through those, we are golden (At Jets, Patroits, NY Giants, back to back to back all road games)

Pointg5 10-02-2006 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Scav
WE DON'T NEED A RB, we have the 2nd coming of Brett Favre, and how fitting is it that he is on a team that he tormented for years and years.

Cowboys couldn't hold our jockstrap, our O-Line would hold them and our D-Line would eat up their O-Line...You have Columbo starting, a Bears 1st round draft pick that we cut.....72' Dolphins better watch out, because we are coming...We have 3 hard games in a row, and if we get through those, we are golden (At Jets, Patroits, NY Giants, back to back to back all road games)

Chicago's very good, but you better hold off on all of that 72 Dolphins talk, they haven't played an AFC Team yet. They are probably 1-2 in the NFC, but not nearly as good as the best AFC teams. It's kind of like MLB, the Chumps are in the NL, but the Champs are in the AL. It's the same thing with the NFL AFC vs NFC.

Scav 10-02-2006 10:57 AM

Show me one AFC team that would beat them. We would beat Indy by 14, and probably be up 28 with them scoring two late TD's....we would run all over them. Who is the other, Baltimore, they wouldn't score 3 pts on us.

Pointg5 10-02-2006 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Scav
Show me one AFC team that would beat them. We would beat Indy by 14, and probably be up 28 with them scoring two late TD's....we would run all over them. Who is the other, Baltimore, they wouldn't score 3 pts on us.

Good luck with that...

I heard all of this Bears chest thumping until the Bengals went in there and beat them last year at home...

Colts
Pats
Steelers

Are a few that could beat them, wouldn't be surprised to see Buffalo take them, they are good, but they beat Seattle without Alexander, not exactly something to get your blood boiling...

Pointg5 10-02-2006 11:03 AM

You could probably add:

San Diego
Denver
Ravens

To that list that could beat the Bears...

Scav 10-02-2006 11:20 AM

You both are crazy, there isn't a team that is as three dimensional as us, you will see, we are just quicker then everyone, at all positions

somerfrost 10-02-2006 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Pointg5
You could probably add:

San Diego
Denver
Ravens

To that list that could beat the Bears...

Right now, the Bears and Cowboys look to be the class of the NFC, Colts and Ravens looking good in the AFC...but it's early, Grossman needs to stay healthy (a problem so far) and TO needs not to red-line (who knows there?), in the AFC...Colts defense is suspect as is their running game, Ravens have been just getting by...sign of a good or lucky team? We will hear from a few other teams yet:
NFC...Giants (terrible early schedule), Redskins (offense suddenly coming to life), Sea Hawks (Alexander probably will miss just one more game), Carolina (different team with Smith back) and Philadelphia (Stallworth brings them balance)
AFC...Jacksonville (tough early schedule as well), Pittsburgh (way too soon to bury them), Cinn (everybody has an off game) and San Diego (Rivers developing fast with lots of weapons)!

Pointg5 10-02-2006 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Scav
You both are crazy, there isn't a team that is as three dimensional as us, you will see, we are just quicker then everyone, at all positions


There's no one in the NFL that's heads and shoulders above anyone else, it's been a strange year. I wouldn't be surprised to see Chicago go to the Super Bowl, but they won't win. They are good, but you need to stop drinking the Kool Aid, they will not be close to undefeated, 12-4 or 11-5....

Scav 10-02-2006 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Pointg5
There's no one in the NFL that's heads and shoulders above anyone else, it's been a strange year. I wouldn't be surprised to see Chicago go to the Super Bowl, but they won't win. They are good, but you need to stop drinking the Kool Aid, they will not be close to undefeated, 12-4 or 11-5....

We fought about this last year and went no where, we have an easy trip to Miami. AFC is down this year, Indy/NE are brutal, Pittsburgh is still hung over. Ravens still have issues with scoring. Cincy is dangerous but we know that defense wins championships, and their is questionable at best. Denver, yeah right, Jake Plummer always finds a way to get nuts. San Diego, not with Philip Rivers, but their D is right, especially their front seven.

Coach Pants 10-02-2006 11:41 AM

Add the Redskins to the list that could beat the Bears.

They're a completely different team with Portis healthy.

oracle80 10-02-2006 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Scav
Show me one AFC team that would beat them. We would beat Indy by 14, and probably be up 28 with them scoring two late TD's....we would run all over them. Who is the other, Baltimore, they wouldn't score 3 pts on us.

You are delusional Scav. Beating the Hawks without Alexander is one thing, saying you would beat the Colts is another. And Brett Favre? Are you comparing Rex Grossman to Brett Favre? WOW!!! I don't hear you at all on this one, not even close.

oracle80 10-02-2006 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Scav
We fought about this last year and went no where, we have an easy trip to Miami. AFC is down this year, Indy/NE are brutal, Pittsburgh is still hung over. Ravens still have issues with scoring. Cincy is dangerous but we know that defense wins championships, and their is questionable at best. Denver, yeah right, Jake Plummer always finds a way to get nuts. San Diego, not with Philip Rivers, but their D is right, especially their front seven.

Scav you must still be drunk, you really must. Indy is brutal? Now how do you figure that exactly? Dude, Indy is the team with the horseshoe on the side of the helmets with Manning at qb, they wear blue and white. No way have you been watching the same team as me if you think Indy is brutal.

And lets be honest, you play the easiest schedule in the NFL this year, thats true. That gets you a free pass to the playoffs, not to Miami. Eagles, Giants, Cowboys, redskins is a very good division. And while they won't have a gaudy record because they all have to play each other all year, the one who emerges at years end from there can definitely beat the Bears in the playoffs. Last year didn't go so well for you in the playoffs, what exactly has changed?
And did you really compare Jones to Payton?
Dude, you musta tied a real good one on last night, drink lots of water.

Seattleallstar 10-02-2006 11:52 AM

i think Scav just got that snippet from Madden and Michaels about comparing Rex Grossman to Farve, hell I remember Grossman not even on the same level as Danny Wurefel

Scav 10-02-2006 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by oracle80
You are delusional Scav. Beating the Hawks without Alexander is one thing, saying you would beat the Colts is another. And Brett Favre? Are you comparing Rex Grossman to Brett Favre? WOW!!! I don't hear you at all on this one, not even close.

Actually WHEN GROSSMAN was drafted. RON WOLF, the Green Bay GM at the time compared him to Favre, and that notion has been around Chicago since he was drafted. If he was 3/4's as durable as Favre, I am real happy. Favre NEVER had a defense like this one. never.

Even with Alexander too be continued, boss is right here

somerfrost 10-02-2006 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Seattleallstar
i think Scav just got that snippet from Madden and Michaels about comparing Rex Grossman to Farve, hell I remember Grossman not even on the same level as Danny Wurefel

I think the point was that Grossman is a gunslinger, same as Brett...nobody was saying they compare, one is a sure HOFer, the other is trying to prove he's an NFL QB! I do think Grossman has a ton of talent and could (I did say "could") be a special QB...he suddenly has tools...a deep threat, great possession WR, excellent young TE and backs that can catch the ball!

Scav 10-02-2006 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav
Actually WHEN GROSSMAN was drafted. RON WOLF, the Green Bay GM at the time compared him to Favre, and that notion has been around Chicago since he was drafted. If he was 3/4's as durable as Favre, I am real happy. Favre NEVER had a defense like this one. never.

Even with Alexander too be continued, boss is right here

Even with Alexander they don't beat us. When you can get pressure with 4 D-Lineman, you are going to win alot of games, and that is what we do. Still drunk, maybe, but far from delusional. Not only are all NFC teams going to have to come through Soldier Field to get to the Super Bowl, but we will end up being teh SUPER BOWL FAVORITES when the playoffs start...INVINCABLE

Scav 10-02-2006 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by somerfrost
I think the point was that Grossman is a gunslinger, same as Brett...nobody was saying they compare, one is a sure HOFer, the other is trying to prove he's an NFL QB! I do think Grossman has a ton of talent and could (I did say "could") be a special QB...he suddenly has tools...a deep threat, great possession WR, excellent young TE and backs that can catch the ball!

Somer, YOUNG TE, Clark is like old in NFL years, been around for like 6-7 years I think, he was Griese's guy when he was in Denver.

Jones can catch the ball, Benson, it remains to be seen, Benson did get the ball some last night and I actually think he is going to take over the roll a little bit as long as he doesn't fumble. I was hoping to get him in the endzone last night because it would have helped him to hear the fans cheering for him. VERY sensitive in the head I think

Pointg5 10-02-2006 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav
We fought about this last year and went no where, we have an easy trip to Miami. AFC is down this year, Indy/NE are brutal, Pittsburgh is still hung over. Ravens still have issues with scoring. Cincy is dangerous but we know that defense wins championships, and their is questionable at best. Denver, yeah right, Jake Plummer always finds a way to get nuts. San Diego, not with Philip Rivers, but their D is right, especially their front seven.


Yes we did fight about this last year and I told you that they were in a terrible division that they would win and that they will make the Playoffs, but be bounced early. Remember that?

It's fine to be a fan and even somewhat of a blowhard, but you are talking nonsense...

1st_Saturday_in_May 10-02-2006 01:17 PM

Rex Grossman LOL. Its only a matter of time before he does something stupid - he always does. He didnt wake up one morning and decide not to suck anymore. His old qualities will catch up to him...

Your schedule is a joke, thats for sure. Compare it to what Cincy and Pittsburgh are playing for a chuckle. But, thats not Chicagos problem...they got luck. We can chalk up the game at New England to a loss, as well as the one at New York. Will probably go 12-4 or 13-3 but that dont mean **** in the playoffs

oracle80 10-02-2006 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by 1st_Saturday_in_May
Rex Grossman LOL. Its only a matter of time before he does something stupid - he always does. He didnt wake up one morning and decide not to suck anymore. His old qualities will catch up to him...

LOL!!
I'm sorry but I'm going to have to steal that line and use it!!
Everyone thought Hasselbeack woke up and decided that, until he got to play a game without Alexander last night, and guess what, he must have decided when he woke up that he sucked again.
Pete Carroll was the same way. I guess when he decided to go for it on 4th and 1 AND without Bush in the backfield, and then decided to call a panicked timeout that he desperately needed before a two point attempt last year in the championship game, that he must have wokenup and decided he still sucked also!!!!!
You gotta love bandwagon guys.

Scav 10-02-2006 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Pointg5
Yes we did fight about this last year and I told you that they were in a terrible division that they would win and that they will make the Playoffs, but be bounced early. Remember that?

It's fine to be a fan and even somewhat of a blowhard, but you are talking nonsense...

I remember that, but we had KYLE ORTON as our QB and couldn't move the ball, and we got smoked by ONE GUY.....not worried about it this year

oracle80 10-02-2006 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav
I remember that, but we had KYLE ORTON as our QB and couldn't move the ball, and we got smoked by ONE GUY.....not worried about it this year

Since Grossman moves slow, if I were a Bears fan I'd be REAL worried about EXACTLY that. Those slow guys are tough to get through a season inone piece, especially the ones who have been injury prone.:cool:

Scav 10-02-2006 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by oracle80
Since Grossman moves slow, if I were a Bears fan I'd be REAL worried about EXACTLY that. Those slow guys are tough to get through a season inone piece, especially the ones who have been injury prone.:cool:

Yo we have Greise who is a machine in this offense, best backup in all of football. i am FAR from worried about this season, even if Grossman goes down, we are hooked up, and we have a 10 game winner in his ROOKIE year 3rd string, loaded from all angles.

where we would be screwed is at WR, if Muhammed or Berrian go down, we are in trouble

2MinsToPost 10-02-2006 03:26 PM

Indy's defense is suspect because we have 4 starters out injured, our secondary is down to 2nd and 3rd string guys. Our defense will be fine when we get healthy.

Here I go again using we like I am a member of the team:o I like to consider myself part of the team and use we. I am the 12th man screaming and yelling at the tv. Wait till I go to my first game. Face painted, going crazy in the stands hi fiving everyone.

Scav 10-02-2006 03:35 PM

I wear a Rashann Salamm jersey to Bears games all the time, show I am OLD SCHOOL, my friend got me a official Salamm jersey about a year ago, busted it out last night, it was great, someone was narcing my style though yesterday, saw another one

chromer 10-02-2006 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav
Actually WHEN GROSSMAN was drafted. RON WOLF, the Green Bay GM at the time compared him to Favre, and that notion has been around Chicago since he was drafted. If he was 3/4's as durable as Favre, I am real happy. Favre NEVER had a defense like this one. never.

Even with Alexander too be continued, boss is right here

As usual a very evenly matched league. This is what makes the NFL so great. But I don't think Chicago is even the best D. That goes to Baltimore who, after dominating weak teams, showed they could control a potent O when they beat San Diego. Man for man I'd take Baltimore over Chicago.

Both teams need their QB to stay healthy though. Gotta be exciting for you to have a reasonably good quarterback in Chicago. I think the last one was Sid Luckman.

Coach Pants 10-02-2006 03:58 PM

Baltimore is +4.5 at Denver.

Crush it now before it goes below 3

Pointg5 10-02-2006 04:31 PM

Man Law:

Never, ever ever, ever if you are a man, wear a Jersey with another man's name on it, never I mean never do this....

2MinsToPost 10-02-2006 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Pointg5
Man Law:

Never, ever ever, ever if you are a man, wear a Jersey with another man's name on it, never I mean never do this....

Loos like I break the law every single week. I missed this commercial, and I LOVE those commercials. Seriously, was this one?

Come on man, you don't sport a Johnson or Palmer jersey?

2 Dollar Bill 10-02-2006 05:04 PM

Just remember ONE thing in the N F L.... any team can look like a champion one week...and then get knocked off the mountain the next week.... Heck everyone said.. the bengals are this. and the pats walk in there.. and take no names....The Dolphins of 2005 winners of the last six games... look like the worst team ...get beat by the team who DRAFTED FIRST in 2006 ? Its a shame that most teams get to be 8 -8.. and the few better and the few worse...
And as they say in the Black Hole..... >>Goooooo Raiders !!!!

1st_Saturday_in_May 10-02-2006 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Pointg5
Man Law:

Never, ever ever, ever if you are a man, wear a Jersey with another man's name on it, never I mean never do this....

Damn, man, I break that one. I sport Big Ben proudly every Friday at college and Sunday for games....

Scav 10-02-2006 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by 1st_Saturday_in_May
Damn, man, I break that one. I sport Big Ben proudly every Friday at college and Sunday for games....

eah I know, I have like 3 Bears jerseys and I am getting a Tank Johnson jersey made

Urlacher/Salamm rookie year replica
Salamm authentic
Tank Johnson on the way, was going to get Harris but it getting played out

Pointg5 10-03-2006 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by 2MinsToPost
Loos like I break the law every single week. I missed this commercial, and I LOVE those commercials. Seriously, was this one?

Come on man, you don't sport a Johnson or Palmer jersey?


I would never wear a Jersey, just not me. I have a Bengals hat and some long sleeve T shirts with Bengals logos on them...

I am not on the Team, so why should I wear a Jersey?

Scav 10-03-2006 08:40 AM

I am on the team, I am a fan, and while I PAY and don't get paid, I still feel a part of it. Alot of it is because of the players involved, alot of players are real cool dudes...Two stories, 1 revelavant 1 not...

1) Nathan Vasher was in his 2nd year, and we were at Bears Draft Day at Solider Field, alot of the players come out and have a good time. I am rocking the Salamm jersey and Vasher comes up to me and my friends and was like "tight jersey" and I turn around and show him Salamm and seriously, it was the only black dude I have seen turn red, it was so hilarious. Somebody comedy, I think David Terrell, was all over him about it.....

2) off this subject...You know how Seattle supposedly has a 12th man and yadda yadda. Well I guess the NFL makes Seattle #12 jerseys with the word fan on the back, biggest waste of money I have ever seen but BESIDES THAT, After the Bears scored their last touchdown Sunday night, there was a SEATTLE FAN with THAT JERSEY clapping to 'Bear Down'(a cultitic song they play after we score points). I was all over him like a fly on ****. DUDE WAS ACTUALLY CLAPPING FOR THE BEARS WITH A SEAHAWKS jersey on. I had more respect for these two Seattle clowns that started talking **** when up 3-0 and then shut up and took a verbal whoopping after they got smoked.

Pointg5 10-03-2006 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Scav
I am on the team, I am a fan, and while I PAY and don't get paid, I still feel a part of it. Alot of it is because of the players involved, alot of players are real cool dudes...Two stories, 1 revelavant 1 not...

1) Nathan Vasher was in his 2nd year, and we were at Bears Draft Day at Solider Field, alot of the players come out and have a good time. I am rocking the Salamm jersey and Vasher comes up to me and my friends and was like "tight jersey" and I turn around and show him Salamm and seriously, it was the only black dude I have seen turn red, it was so hilarious. Somebody comedy, I think David Terrell, was all over him about it.....

2) off this subject...You know how Seattle supposedly has a 12th man and yadda yadda. Well I guess the NFL makes Seattle #12 jerseys with the word fan on the back, biggest waste of money I have ever seen but BESIDES THAT, After the Bears scored their last touchdown Sunday night, there was a SEATTLE FAN with THAT JERSEY clapping to 'Bear Down'(a cultitic song they play after we score points). I was all over him like a fly on ****. DUDE WAS ACTUALLY CLAPPING FOR THE BEARS WITH A SEAHAWKS jersey on. I had more respect for these two Seattle clowns that started talking **** when up 3-0 and then shut up and took a verbal whoopping after they got smoked.

You are not on the Team, you don't have the talent to make the Team and you don't put in the blood, sweat, and tears that they do... I don't either, no big deal, only so many people are talented enough to play in the NFL. I am a fan of the Bengals, but I am not on the Bengals. I really don't understand the mentality that you are part of the Team by wearing a Jersey....


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