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pmayjr 09-30-2006 05:31 PM

Perfect Drift
 
With all the attention on how much of a difference it would've made if Premium Tap, it completely overshadows the trouble the Perfect Drift had in this race. This Race was identical to last year's BC Classic for Perfect Drift.

He looked full of run at the top of the stretch, and was blocked repeatedly. Leparoux tried to take him to the outside, and he was blocked. Then he swerved Drift in, and was blocked, and so Leparoux decided to finally split horses when a hole finally opened mid stretch, AND HE PLOWED THROUGH WITH A BIG RUN. By then it was too late.

It seems like Perfect Drift always finds a way to get in trouble or come up just short. But he had as many excuses as Premuin Tap today. But I don't think necessarily Preimum Tap wins that race if 'Tap doesn't check. Because if Perfect Drift could have gotten a clean ride as well, those two easily finish 1-2 in the race.

randallscott35 09-30-2006 05:33 PM

He'll no doubt be 4th or 5th in the big one again.

Gander 09-30-2006 05:34 PM

I dont like the way Leparoux rides. I really dont get what all the fuss is about.

pmayjr 09-30-2006 05:37 PM

Gander,
I think they should've kep Guirdy on him. I love Guidry. But this wasn't anything Leparoux did or didn't do. P. Drift ran into a wall. Seriously it was eerie how much his trip was like his BC Classic Trip last year.

A show bet on 'Drift in the BC Classic- maybe the safest bet in the whole thing lol.

DiscreetCat=Monster 09-30-2006 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Gander
I dont like the way Leparoux rides. I really dont get what all the fuss is about.


I don't get it either. He is an average rider at best. He is a 23yo bug boy witch makes him a bug man and i think he is older than Bejorano. So i don't know i guess its the fact that he got 7 more years experiance before he became an apprentice.

pmayjr 09-30-2006 05:40 PM

We'll see how human Leparoux is when he loses his bug... I agree- He's nothin specil. But I like him better than some of the other big names out there. He's a mid-pack guy. A Cornholio Velasquez type lol.

Buffymommy 09-30-2006 07:01 PM

I wouldn't throw out the win bet on Drifty. He definately has a lot left in the tank after today. Today was more like a workout. I really liked this as a prep for him.

Gotta go help a friend. Chat at you guys later!

Danzig 09-30-2006 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by pmayjr
With all the attention on how much of a difference it would've made if Premium Tap, it completely overshadows the trouble the Perfect Drift had in this race. This Race was identical to last year's BC Classic for Perfect Drift.

He looked full of run at the top of the stretch, and was blocked repeatedly. Leparoux tried to take him to the outside, and he was blocked. Then he swerved Drift in, and was blocked, and so Leparoux decided to finally split horses when a hole finally opened mid stretch, AND HE PLOWED THROUGH WITH A BIG RUN. By then it was too late.

It seems like Perfect Drift always finds a way to get in trouble or come up just short. But he had as many excuses as Premuin Tap today. But I don't think necessarily Preimum Tap wins that race if 'Tap doesn't check. Because if Perfect Drift could have gotten a clean ride as well, those two easily finish 1-2 in the race.

and if a frog had wings.....
premium tap got stopped badly, almost went down. whether he'd have won i don't know. nice run by ball four...and hammerin hank hit the nat'l pick four. go figure....

jpops757 09-30-2006 07:07 PM

P D is money machine. Dances eery dance and is always a threat. Just call him Mr congeniality of horseracing. He will never wear the crown but will be able to buy anything he wants.

2Hot4TV 09-30-2006 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by jpops757
P D is money machine. Dances eery dance and is always a threat. Just call him Mr congeniality of horseracing. He will never wear the crown but will be able to buy anything he wants.

I would love to own that horse. They need to find a track that has the finish line on the turn.

todko 09-30-2006 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Buffymommy
I wouldn't throw out the win bet on Drifty. He definately has a lot left in the tank after today. Today was more like a workout. I really liked this as a prep for him.

Gotta go help a friend. Chat at you guys later!

My sentiments exactly. Being there today live -- like I was when PD won 3 years ago -- the horse looks ageless. He could very well win at CD. He was striding out at the wire after running into a wall. He had a lot of run left. It was a solid race, good fractions, good final time on the poly.

Swap Fliparoo 09-30-2006 09:17 PM

PD looked amazing today, just like at CD in the Foster - I was there for both, and both times he came barelling down the stretch with a great stride. Last time he hung when he got the lead, this time he couldn't make up the ground. But both times he kicked impressively and looked like the winner in the stretch. I cheer for him out of shock as if he's the winner. Hope he finishes top-3 in the Classic, I would love to see him keep in "his" top form...

King Glorious 09-30-2006 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Buffymommy
I wouldn't throw out the win bet on Drifty. He definately has a lot left in the tank after today. Today was more like a workout. I really liked this as a prep for him.

Gotta go help a friend. Chat at you guys later!

U wouldn't toss him from the win end? A horse that has won exactly ONE grade one race in six years of racing? A horse that finds a way to lose every single time it appears that he's going to win? Not knocking the horse as a hard trier and a very consistent type but let's be real here. In the past three years, he's won TWO races, an allowance and the grade two Washington Park Hcp. Include him in all the exactas and tris that u want to but putting him in the win spot is throwing away money. I don't care how much trouble he had (doesn't he always have an excuse?), u have to be able to beat Ball Four if u expect that u are going to be able to beat the real heavyweights in the game. Especially considering that it was Ball Four's first race in five months and he was winning his first career graded stakes race.

blackthroatedwind 09-30-2006 10:29 PM

KG -

There is a massive disconnect around here concerning Perfect Drift and his actual ability. When he runs sixth in the BC Classic he will be hailed as an uncrowned champion.

King Glorious 09-30-2006 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
KG -

There is a massive disconnect around here concerning Perfect Drift and his actual ability. When he runs sixth in the BC Classic he will be hailed as an uncrowned champion.

It's like that on every forum. I mean, I understand that they love the horse. Hell, I've grown to respect him myself as a horse that has to be considered in any exotic wager. But I always save myself a little money by never including him in the win spot. I think people have gotten so familiar with him because he's been around so long that they forget the reality of the horse.....he doesn't like to win.

blackthroatedwind 09-30-2006 10:38 PM

He's an excellent and admirable horse but he isn't nearly good enough to beat top horses anymore...period. He's still good enough to pick up the pieces against decent horses but when thrown to the wolves in five weeks he will get his head handed to him.

Danzig 10-01-2006 06:11 AM

what is so ironic to me.....invasor gets questioned on who's he beat, as does lava man, and even bernardini.....2 losses the entire Year between the three of them--yet constantly, who'd they beat, who'd they beat. like a damn parrot squawking or something.
than you have perfect drift....he gets anointed as some kind of spectacular noble creature--hell, who has HE beaten? nobody. it's crazy. winners all over, and so many are killing themselves trying to outdo others with their praise for this sainted horse.

gah....

and now i'll probably get leaped on for not praising this super horse. whatever...he's a good horse. but please gimme a break.

avance2000 10-01-2006 07:37 AM

[quote=Danzig188]than you have perfect drift....he gets anointed as some kind of spectacular noble creature--hell, who has HE beaten? [quote]

well he did beat mineshaft. that was a pretty good horse. listen i don't think most of us think that pd is going to win the classic, and i dont believe that a lot of people on here think he is "spectacular". personally i admire the horse for being so damn competitive at the top level of the sport for as long as he has, and i wouldn't be shocked if he ran up for the show spot in the classic. personally i dont see anything wrong with admiring a horse that has earned as much $$ over the years as this guy.

Danzig 10-01-2006 07:56 AM

i was thinking about this year, but thanks....

all i'm saying is there is something wrong with people bashing winners, esp lava man, and then canonizing losers. it makes no sense.

Round Pen 10-01-2006 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by pmayjr
We'll see how human Leparoux is when he loses his bug... I agree- He's nothin specil. But I like him better than some of the other big names out there. He's a mid-pack guy. A Cornholio Velasquez type lol.

Come on Guys keep up with the times he has Already lost his Bug

paisjpq 10-01-2006 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Round Pen
Come on Guys keep up with the times he has Already lost his Bug

I was gonna post that last night but was too lazy to log in again...thanks RP

pmayjr 10-01-2006 04:36 PM

My bad... About not knowing he lost his bug.

As I said before, I don't think the way Leparoux rode yesterday made a difference. P. Drift was blocked, but was the better move to take 'Drift 10-wide to get around 'em? You hope something opens up so you don't exert that energy taking him way outside.

As I said in the original post, the race yesterday was eerily similar to P. Drift's BC Classic run last year. Blocked tilat least mid-stretch, and then he came with a big run.

So I'm not tyring to take too much away from Ball 4, but the fact remains he had a perfect trip, while 'Drift and Preimum Tap had horrible trips. I'm convinced they both beat Ball 4 with betetr trips. I hope I can get 15-1 on Perfect Drift in the Classic.

blackthroatedwind 10-01-2006 04:41 PM

15-1?

This is not meant as a criticism of Perfect Drift but I would give you 15-1 for as much money as you could possibly raise. He will be upwards of 30-1 in the Classic.

Gander 10-01-2006 04:44 PM

I think it absolutely made the difference. Now we know that Premium Tap would have won had he gotten through, and we also know that Kent D is one of the few jockeys out there that can find trouble in a short field on the dirt with the best horse. Thats moot. Kent did what he does best- find a way to lose.

That said, Perfect Drift was easily the 2nd best horse in the race and Leparoux did all he could to ensure he couldnt take proper advantage of a bonehead ride by giving another bonehead ride.

pmayjr 10-01-2006 05:22 PM

lol well said Gander.

Blackthroat, I hope you're right about P. Drift's odds.

disappearingdan_akaplaya 10-02-2006 09:17 PM

well im as big a supporter of perfect drift as most round here know but in this thread ill reply to the julien comments! lots of athletes including jocks have all the physical talent in the world but some dont have any brains whatsoever! this kid does! ive watched him ride so much and the majority of the time he puts his horse in the best possible spot to win. hada chance to meet julien this past summer and hes one helluva nice guy! his ride clearly won the race for us@churchill, luga pulled his crap hopping out the gate like hes done for other riders throughout his career but julien recovered quickly and made a very heady ride on him! i hope the people that are slamming him have religiously watched him ride. heres the winners circle pic from that day, luga is not only a very nice horse on the track but hes also pleasant to take care of and just be around. for as huge as he is hes a gentle giant

http://pets.webshots.com/photo/20610...68366524ptquQF

Dunbar 10-03-2006 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by pmayjr
lol well said Gander.

Blackthroat, I hope you're right about P. Drift's odds.

Blackthroat is almost certainly right. PD's future odds for the Classic are 44-1 at Pinnacle and 50-1 at VIP/Gameday. I don't think you have to worry about getting 15-1 on raceday. It'll probably be over 30-1, unless there are major defections from the lineup.

--Dunbar

pgardn 10-03-2006 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by disappearingdan_akaplaya
well im as big a supporter of perfect drift as most round here know but in this thread ill reply to the julien comments! lots of athletes including jocks have all the physical talent in the world but some dont have any brains whatsoever! this kid does! ive watched him ride so much and the majority of the time he puts his horse in the best possible spot to win. hada chance to meet julien this past summer and hes one helluva nice guy! his ride clearly won the race for us@churchill, luga pulled his crap hopping out the gate like hes done for other riders throughout his career but julien recovered quickly and made a very heady ride on him! i hope the people that are slamming him have religiously watched him ride. heres the winners circle pic from that day, luga is not only a very nice horse on the track but hes also pleasant to take care of and just be around. for as huge as he is hes a gentle giant

http://pets.webshots.com/photo/20610...68366524ptquQF

So playa is doing the circuit. Cool.

Cajungator26 10-03-2006 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by pgardn
So playa is doing the circuit. Cool.

He needs to hook me up with his trainer. :cool:

disappearingdan_akaplaya 10-03-2006 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Cajungator26
He needs to hook me up with his trainer. :cool:

LMFAO you wanna get with steve? hes only 21! a real nice guy so if ya wanted ya could probaly walk all over him like other girls have. were leavin early in the morning to run 1 up in michigan, you provided a good laugh for the drive=)

Cajungator26 10-03-2006 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by disappearingdan_akaplaya
LMFAO you wanna get with steve? hes only 21! a real nice guy so if ya wanted ya could probaly walk all over him like other girls have. were leavin early in the morning to run 1 up in michigan, you provided a good laugh for the drive=)

Yep, just call me a cradle robber! :eek: :D

disappearingdan_akaplaya 10-03-2006 09:05 PM

[quote=Cajungator26]Yep, just call me a cradle robber! :eek: :D[/QUOTE well hes legal so ya cant get in trouble, hes got family that lives in FLA so if he ever goes to visit ill give ya a heads up LOL. we might be headed to oaklawn this winter with the horses which would obviously be a good time. if we go that route i may stick around till then insteada going back to the"regular" world of work

Cajungator26 10-03-2006 09:10 PM

[quote=disappearingdan_akaplaya]
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Originally Posted by Cajungator26
Yep, just call me a cradle robber! :eek: :D[/QUOTE well hes legal so ya cant get in trouble, hes got family that lives in FLA so if he ever goes to visit ill give ya a heads up LOL. we might be headed to oaklawn this winter with the horses which would obviously be a good time. if we go that route i may stick around till then insteada going back to the"regular" world of work

That sounds like a great time! I'm sure you guys will be hitting the bar! LOL :D

disappearingdan_akaplaya 10-03-2006 09:15 PM

well cajun i hear the oaklawn meet is nothing but 1 huge party after the races for the horsemen basically every single night. if we go ill go out and party once and awhile of course but i cant do it every single night! my trainer although young is obviously a adult and old enough to make his own choices but i dont want him 2 become a full blown drunk like so many are on the backside. i think wed have a really good time if we went and also do well as far as the races go since we gotta few that can compete down there

Cajungator26 10-03-2006 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by disappearingdan_akaplaya
well cajun i hear the oaklawn meet is nothing but 1 huge party after the races for the horsemen basically every single night. if we go ill go out and party once and awhile of course but i cant do it every single night! my trainer although young is obviously a adult and old enough to make his own choices but i dont want him 2 become a full blown drunk like so many are on the backside. i think wed have a really good time if we went and also do well as far as the races go since we gotta few that can compete down there

Yeah, not like you guys will be paying attention to scenery, but I've heard that it's really pretty around there as well. :cool:

disappearingdan_akaplaya 10-03-2006 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Cajungator26
Yeah, not like you guys will be paying attention to scenery, but I've heard that it's really pretty around there as well. :cool:


lol of course we pay attention to scenery.....whatya think we were doin at arlington all summer long? =)unfortunately there isnt even 1/10 as much at hawthorne. wed have to make some decisions tho such as skipping a semester of school since we both go at night but hell im down with tha sickness

Cajungator26 10-03-2006 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by disappearingdan_akaplaya
lol of course we pay attention to scenery.....whatya think we were doin at arlington all summer long? =)unfortunately there isnt even 1/10 as much at hawthorne. wed have to make some decisions tho such as skipping a semester of school since we both go at night but hell im down with tha sickness

I hear you... I've got to go back to school. :eek:

I'd much rather be at the track... lol.

disappearingdan_akaplaya 10-03-2006 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Cajungator26
I hear you... I've got to go back to school. :eek:

I'd much rather be at the track... lol.


thats really good to hear, i think youre a year older than me, lol were not too old for school are we? whatya goin for? working on the backside has been quite a education for me in alotta ways

Cajungator26 10-03-2006 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by disappearingdan_akaplaya
thats really good to hear, i think youre a year older than me, lol were not too old for school are we? whatya goin for? working on the backside has been quite a education for me in alotta ways

I'm 26...

I have a year left in school. I'm going to start back up in January and get my business or marketing degree.


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