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Neat post...do they do this everyday? Can I sign up for e-mails?
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Think they do it every day but only get the Sunday paper now..Had to fish around at the site to find that column, it's on the 2nd page of the paper. Here's their site link, http://www.timesdispatch.com/ Think you can sign up for emails.. btw, they were recently bought by Murdoch's company..Liked their site look before the buy... |
Thanks. Was really hoping to get to Gettysburg over the 4th but not gonna happen now. Would have loved to be there on the actual anniversary.
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going to the hermitage as well. leaving this thursday, heading to the smokies for the weekend. |
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http://www.westegg.com/inflation/ $2600 in confederate currency is worth a little** less. *probably not at all **actually a lot |
There is a very large statue of Gen. Beauregard at the entrance to City Park in New Orleans, not very far from Fair Grounds.
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i'm sure there's also a statue of butler....
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Gettysburg’s dark secret.
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made it to stones river battlefield (murfreesboro, tn) and fort donelson (dover, tn). very disappointed to find that the nashville battlefield has been covered over by develpments. great museum downtown tho.
stones river is home to the oldest monument to a battle, built by actual battle veterans only six months after the fight. donelson is where grant earned his moniker of 'unconditional surrender' grant. donelson was the first decisive win for the north, and things would generally go well for the union from them on in the west. too bad that rat nathan bedford forrest escaped from fort donelson. |
You should try to get down to Chattanooga/Chickamauga area on your trip. Visit Lookout Mtn and they have some great areas on the top of Missionary Ridge. The museum and tour at Chickamauga battlefield is also first rate. It is also their 150th anniversary. Visit their National Cemetery in Chattanooga too!
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Civil War 150th: On this date in 1863.
LATEST FROM THE NORTH. THE GREAT BATTLE AT GETTYSBURG. We have received from Hon. Robert Ould, Commissioner of Exchange, New York papers of the 2d, 3d and 4th insts. The following dispatches in the New York World give an account of the progress of the fighting. The first contains extracts from the official report of Gen. Meade, which was all the War Department would allow to be telegraphed from Washington to the Northern papers: Washington, July 3d.--An official dispatch was received this afternoon from Major-General Meade, dated headquarters, Army of the Potomac, 11 o’clock P. M., July 2nd, which says: “The enemy attacked me about 4 P. M. this day, and, after one of the severest contests of the war, was repulsed at all points. We have suffered considerably in killed and wounded. ... We have taken a large number of prisoners.” Dispatches about the Fighting. Philadelphia, July 3.--A special dispatch to the Bulletin, from Harrisburg, says: Nothing is yet known as to results, but the impression prevails that the great decisive battle of the campaign has been fought in the neighborhood of Cashtown, between Gettysburg and Chambersburg. It is believed that we have suffered heavy losses in officers and men, but Lee is so crippled as to be placed on the defensive. Yesterday Gen. Meade assumed the offensive. The day before Lee had attacked Meade, and was repulsed with heavy loss. -------------------------------------------------------------- Tilford: Gettysburg’s legacy still paying off. It was a war fought by dirt-poor Southern white farmers on one side and a lot of German and Irish immigrants filling out the ranks of dirt-poor Yankee farmers on the other side. Despite sharing the same race, religion and history, they slaughtered one another with alacrity. What a different country this might have been if, 400 years ago, someone had suggested, “Let’s pick our own cotton.” On several occasions I visited that place where, 150 years ago, the future of this republic was decided. When I taught at Grove City College in western Pennsylvania, I showed the movie “Gettysburg” to my U.S. military history classes. It took eight months to bury the dead. More Americans died on each of the three days of the Battle of Gettysburg than have died in the dozen years of the War on Terror. Half the soldiers killed in all American wars since the 17th century — about a million in all — died in our Civil War. Almost all of the Civil War casualties were of Anglo-Saxon, Scots-Irish or German-Dutch descent. They were mainly Christians and mostly Protestant, with Catholics from Boston and New York City, Savannah and New Orleans thrown in. -------------------------------------------------------------------- Bryan: The Civil War transformed American medicine. Quote:
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i've told tony i'd like to make a swing thru va, md and to gettsyburg-i suggested hitting those sites in between some home ice capitals games...lol |
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as for unhealed wounds, at the tn state museum, they had a picture of a soldier from about 15 years after the war-with a stick stuck thru his side to show his unhealed wound. i also know from reading sam houstons bio that his wound he suffered fighting with jackson vs the red sticks that his groin injury never healed. the soldiers might have been better served staying out of some of the hospitals, as it seemed the treatment could be worse than the cure. i wonder if the earlier wounded fared better than later? the doctors would have less blood and gore on them if they hadn't treated as many patients. and i think disease such as yellow fever, measles, typhoid and the like probably killed more than battle wounds did. joshua chamberlain was posthumously promoted....when he awoke weeks later his brother told him the news. he'd been shot thru both hips, and they thought it was a mortal wound-but he survived and kept his promotion. he later earned the name 'bloody chamberlain'. while leading his troops in a later battle (i think the battle of the wilderness) the hero of little round top was seen to have been shot 'clean thru' but kept his saddle and kept fighting. turned out that the bullet that went into his belly rode his rib around to his back and exited....everyone thought the bullet went thru him. he lived to his 90's. |
oh, currently reading ' the fall of the house of dixie' which i think is aptly titled! so far, very interesting.
i set aside the bio of teddy roosevelt (a bit boring, maybe finish it later) to start on house of dixie, but one interesting thing from TR...an aging Joe Wheeler, who'd fought in the civil war, was a participant in the spanish american war!! crazy stuff. |
Excellent book. Heard the author on NPR and read it shortly thereafter. I get a lot of leads on books from NPR shows and ATR. Just finished the book about the WWII spy Garbo that was mentioned on the show recently. Recommended highly.
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i have another book to read after this one, about the restoration. also have one on patton to dig into. |
Maybe it was your recommendation that I saw;-) I was thinking it was on the show, no matter it was well worth the read. The things that guy did were amazing.
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it was a hell of a story. glad he was able to do what he did-who knows how the aftermath of d-day would have gone if they hadn't managed to continue to fool hitler. and luckily, hitler ignored rommel!
now, lincoln would get put out with his generals, but at least he didn't delude himself into thinking he should or could step in and take over the waging of it...even if he did ask mclellan 'if you're not going to use your army, maybe i could borrow it for a while'. i've never looked, but i wonder what happened to him after he lost the presidential election to lincoln... |
Spent a lot of time in Europe and eventually served a term as NJ Governor. Of course wrote a memoir that defended his actions in the war. "Little Napoleon" was a very accurate nickname.
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yeah, i read up on him a bit. i know he had huge visions of greatness for himself. too bad his ambition didn't actually propel him to action.
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This is one that I read some years ago that I would also recommend. Some of the things they did at Gettysburg are (wait for it)... legendary.
The Iron Brigade: A Military History by Alan T. Nolan |
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shelby foote's trilogy is a must read for civil war buffs-who don't mind almost 3k total pages.
james mcphersons 'battle cry of freedom' is a very good single volume work. fiction-if you haven't read 'the killer angels' read it as soon as possible! fabulous book. |
Do you remember this..Best PBS series ever..I taped every episode and still have them in a box stored away in the house....haven't watched any in years..maybe dig them out and watch again...
The Civil War (TV series) Starring David McCullough Sam Waterston :tro: Jason Robards :tro: Julie Harris Morgan Freeman :tro: Garrison Keillor Arthur Miller George Plimpton September 23–27, 1990 The Civil War is a documentary film created by Ken Burns about the American Civil War. It was first broadcast on PBS on five consecutive nights from September 23 to September 27, 1990. Approximately 40 million viewers watched it during its initial broadcast, making it the most-watched program ever to air on PBS. It was subsequently awarded more than 40 major television and film honors. The film was remastered on the twelfth anniversary of its release, and a book following the movie has also been released. |
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not much of a watcher....but i do keep telling myself i need to watch it. i was reading a book not long ago about the mexican american war, and polk, etc. contacted the author because i found a mistake! hehe.... he had sherman in mexico during that war...sherman was in california. |
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he responded to my email. said thanks, that he'd fix it in the paperback version. wonder if he did.... |
just bought two books by ralph peters, hell or richmond and cain at gettysburg. found the first at booksamillion while killing time....
cain at gettysburg won an award for military historical fiction. i'll let you guys know if they're good-they sound good! |
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the PBS series The Civil War was EXCELLENT! |
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Another good Ken Burns series was The War, have that on vcr tapes.. |
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A Confederate and Union soldier shake hands during a celebration at Gettysburg in 1913. Image from the Library of Congress. July 1-3, 2013 marks the 150th Anniversary of the Battle of Gettysburg
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i saw a picture yesterday of a bunch of vets shaking hands over a wall at the same celebration.
it's funny (and sad too) but at the battles, after they were over, or there was a surrender, the opposing soldiers would sit and visit with each other like old friends. of course, you see that in other battles too. when vicksburg capitulated, there was immediate visiting between both sides. hell, some of the soldiers were making trades of tobacco for coffee and the like during the siege! happened in virginia (pickets on either side of a river, with a burned bridge between). i'd have to think the most famous incident may be the unofficial christmas truce in the trenches the first year of ww1. too bad it didn't create a peace like some of the soldiers hoped. |
going back to virginia in march.
we're celebrating our 30th anniversary by going to two caps games...but i plan to visit richmond, and petersburg-battle of the crater! and whatever else in that area i can find that piques my interest. once i go there, i've pretty much been to every major battle site, and some of the minor ones. i'll have to look at the list to see what may be left after this. but it's not much. |
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