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RockHardTen1985 12-03-2012 10:35 PM

Doubles
 
So I work with a guy who has lived in Saratoga his entire life. He calls himself a once in a while horse player. He saw me streaming video on my phone recently and we got to talking about racing. He says he likes to play doubles when he does play and asked me how I would play them. I was honest. I told him I consider myself a good handicapper and a bad gambler/bettor. I also told him I mostly play pick 3's and 4's. I told him I post here, he will register soon he says. Question is if your a doubles only player, what do the will pays have to be showing to justify a 3-2 double for $5. So 30$ tickets? Or anything along those lines? 3-3 for $5=45$. He said he trys to see payouts of at least 20$ for 2$. I told him that feels way light especially on the $45 tickets. Thanks to anyone who responds without being a douche.

Dahoss 12-03-2012 10:39 PM

Does your friend wear jorts?

Indian Charlie 12-04-2012 01:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 905163)
Does your friend wear jorts?

I'm fearful of googling this question, so i'll ask here. what is a jort?

RockHardTen1985 12-04-2012 03:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie (Post 905165)
I'm fearful of googling this question, so i'll ask here. what is a jort?

Jean shorts.
Dahoss used to wear them in the local OTB's, he was seen wearing them as recently as Preakness day 2012.
He took a shot at me with it because I said I wore jean shorts w/ a Moss jersey something like 7 years ago.

Dahoss 12-04-2012 07:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 905168)
Jean shorts.
Dahoss used to wear them in the local OTB's, he was seen wearing them as recently as Preakness day 2012.
He took a shot at me with it because I said I wore jean shorts w/ a Moss jersey something like 7 years ago.

Glad to see you are back to just totally make stuff up. Who saw me wearing them in a local OTB on Preakness day (this should be good)?

Since you ignored it twice now (hard to believe I know) in regards to the $200 you owe me, I said you can just make a $100 donation to the American Cancer society and we'll call it even. So are you going to, with proof of course?

miraja2 12-04-2012 07:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 905170)
Glad to see you are back to just totally make stuff up. Who saw me wearing them in a local OTB on Preakness day (this should be good)?

Since you ignored it twice now (hard to believe I know) in regards to the $200 you owe me, I said you can just make a $100 donation to the American Cancer society and we'll call it even. So are you going to, with proof of course?

Rumor has it that while you were posting this you were spotted wearing a mesh tank top, a Zenyatta hat....and that's all.
Is that true?

santana 12-04-2012 08:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 905168)
Jean shorts.
Dahoss used to wear them in the local OTB's, he was seen wearing them as recently as Preakness day 2012.
He took a shot at me with it because I said I wore jean shorts w/ a Moss jersey something like 7 years ago.



What the f is wrong with Jean shorts ?

Rudeboyelvis 12-04-2012 09:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by santana (Post 905172)
What the f is wrong with Jean shorts ?

No idea. They're functional and stylish.



Calzone Lord 12-04-2012 09:37 AM

I don't get it either.

I wore jean shorts religiously until about 2006 when my ass got a little too big for the stable of them I had going.

I told my mom to get me a few new pairs when she asked what I wanted for christmas... that was how I found out how uncool and unfashionable they had become.

knickslions2 12-04-2012 09:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 905162)
So I work with a guy who has lived in Saratoga his entire life. He calls himself a once in a while horse player. He saw me streaming video on my phone recently and we got to talking about racing. He says he likes to play doubles when he does play and asked me how I would play them. I was honest. I told him I consider myself a good handicapper and a bad gambler/bettor. I also told him I mostly play pick 3's and 4's. I told him I post here, he will register soon he says. Question is if your a doubles only player, what do the will pays have to be showing to justify a 3-2 double for $5. So 30$ tickets? Or anything along those lines? 3-3 for $5=45$. He said he trys to see payouts of at least 20$ for 2$. I told him that feels way light especially on the $45 tickets. Thanks to anyone who responds without being a douche.

I must admit I do like wearing the jean shorts and look mighty spectacular in them at 47 years old. Not as sharp as the guy in the Florida state shirt but not bad.

Anyway back to the original question RHT. I mainly play daily doubles. They seem to give the most bang for my buck especially at Toga and are easier to hit then pick 3's and 4's. The way I play them is 2 horses in one race and a single in the other. I go $20 dd so each bet is $40. I look for nice long shots that can win. Sometimes if you string a few of these together you can really cash in.

miraja2 12-04-2012 09:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by santana (Post 905172)
What the f is wrong with Jean shorts ?

If its the 90s and you're at a Nascar event....nothing.


But if it isn't....quite a lot.

-BT- 12-04-2012 10:01 AM

how anyone in this day an age can tell me jorts are more comofortable then cargo shorts is beyond me.
also, cargo shorts allow for extra pocket room that is essential for most GOOD handicappers to put their lucky rock, 15 different pens, multi-colored highlighters, dip, cigs, condoms, clip on tie (in case someone invites you to the grandstand), tip sheet and losing tickets for the IRS, just in case ONE day you hit something that is taxed

cargos > jorts

-bt-

knickslions2 12-04-2012 10:21 AM


Rudeboyelvis 12-04-2012 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -BT- (Post 905180)
how anyone in this day an age can tell me jorts are more comofortable then cargo shorts is beyond me.
also, cargo shorts allow for extra pocket room that is essential for most GOOD handicappers to put their lucky rock, 15 different pens, multi-colored highlighters, dip, cigs, condoms, clip on tie (in case someone invites you to the grandstand), tip sheet and losing tickets for the IRS, just in case ONE day you hit something that is taxed

cargos > jorts

-bt-

I carry pretty much all of these things (save for the dip, condoms and tie) in my regular jeans / shorts. It's a huge pain in the ass. But I've gone the route of Cargos, and having all of that sh.it swinging around on you like a pack mule not only looks hella lame, it not particularly comfortable.

Plus you have to take all that sh1t out just to sit down, like you do with regular pants.

Cargo<=> Others. No advantage.

Backpack / Murse > Pockets

MaTH716 12-04-2012 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis (Post 905184)
I carry pretty much all of these things (save for the dip, condoms and tie) in my regular jeans / shorts. It's a huge pain in the ass. But I've gone the route of Cargos, and having all of that sh.it swinging around on you like a pack mule not only looks hella lame, it not particularly comfortable.

Plus you have to take all that sh1t out just to sit down, like you do with regular pants.

Cargo<=> Others. No advantage.

Backpack / Murse > Pockets

Plus Backbacks = supreme coolness



:rolleyes:

GenuineRisk 12-04-2012 10:50 AM

There is always another option to pockets:


-BT- 12-04-2012 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis (Post 905184)
I carry pretty much all of these things (save for the dip, condoms and tie) in my regular jeans / shorts. It's a huge pain in the ass. But I've gone the route of Cargos, and having all of that sh.it swinging around on you like a pack mule not only looks hella lame, it not particularly comfortable.

Plus you have to take all that sh1t out just to sit down, like you do with regular pants.

Cargo<=> Others. No advantage.

Backpack / Murse > Pockets

tell me again dan, how do you sit down in these things?



as far as the backpack is concerned, nobody was talking ish when i was toting around all your luggage like a f*cking sherpa

-bt-

Rudeboyelvis 12-04-2012 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -BT- (Post 905188)
tell me again dan, how do you sit down in these things?

[IMG]SKINNY JEANS???!! :eek::confused::rolleyes:/IMG]

Sorry dude, NOBODY rolls in these. At least nobody I've ever met. Or seen.

I just bought a pair of William Rast Jeans. These:

http://www.6pm.com/william-rast-isaa...fcTest=mat%3A1

And wore them to the track Saturday. Perfectly comfortable. Though I did put my pp's in Sheet's Dad's backpack.

Quote:

as far as the backpack is concerned, nobody was talking ish when i was toting around all your luggage like a f*cking sherpa
There is no point in everyone carrying a friggin rucksack around. If you show up with one, be prepared to shlep everybody's crap. That's man code.

3kings 12-04-2012 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk (Post 905186)
There is always another option to pockets:


That is a good idea. I'm going to carry around a bucket from now on(except when by back pack wielding Sherpa is around), thanks.

casp0555 12-04-2012 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by knickslions2 (Post 905183)

That's funny, not hilarious, but funny....

Rudeboyelvis 12-04-2012 01:20 PM

This has got to be a nominee for "Best Hijack of a RHT crap thread" when considering the 2012 DT Forums HOF awards.

GenuineRisk 12-04-2012 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 3kings (Post 905198)
That is a good idea. I'm going to carry around a bucket from now on(except when by back pack wielding Sherpa is around), thanks.

Don't forget the fannypack! Such a helpful photo; it offers so many options.

jms62 12-04-2012 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by knickslions2 (Post 905177)
I must admit I do like wearing the jean shorts and look mighty spectacular in them at 47 years old. Not as sharp as the guy in the Florida state shirt but not bad.

Anyway back to the original question RHT. I mainly play daily doubles. They seem to give the most bang for my buck especially at Toga and are easier to hit then pick 3's and 4's. The way I play them is 2 horses in one race and a single in the other. I go $20 dd so each bet is $40. I look for nice long shots that can win. Sometimes if you string a few of these together you can really cash in.

This is a good strategy as one hit can carry you a long way. I play 1x3 OR 3x1 where my AxA bet is for 2 units and my AxB tickets are for 1 unit each. When you start using multiple horses in both legs your transaction costs will quickly eat into your winnings.

Indian Charlie 12-04-2012 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis (Post 905205)
This has got to be a nominee for "Best Hijack of a RHT crap thread" when considering the 2012 DT Forums HOF awards.

Yeah. Had I known that my simple and naive question was going to cause this, I'd never have asked.

hi_im_god 12-04-2012 03:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk (Post 905207)
Don't forget the fannypack! Such a helpful photo; it offers so many options.

i saw this and burned my cargo shorts.

not that i'm going to be sporting the new belly pack and bucket look but i saw that photo and something snapped. i just acted out.

Danzig 12-04-2012 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie (Post 905218)
Yeah. Had I known that my simple and naive question was going to cause this, I'd never have asked.

yeah you would have. it got funny in a hurry. good job!

Indian Charlie 12-04-2012 04:33 PM

I am getting too predictable.

Maybe I'll dart myself in protest.

Dahoss 12-04-2012 05:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by miraja2 (Post 905171)
Rumor has it that while you were posting this you were spotted wearing a mesh tank top, a Zenyatta hat....and that's all.
Is that true?

Almost true. I also had on flip flops with socks.

Danzig 12-04-2012 05:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 905232)
Almost true. I also had on flip flops with socks.

black flip flops, white socks?? :D

Dahoss 12-04-2012 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 905234)
black flip flops, white socks?? :D

Of course. Class all the way.

RockHardTen1985 12-04-2012 06:27 PM

I wear Jordan or Air Max sandals pretty much 8 months out of the year.

Indian Charlie 12-04-2012 06:27 PM

Were the socks from Erie?

RockHardTen1985 12-04-2012 06:29 PM

Thanks to Knicks and JMS for actually responding. Appreciate it.

RockHardTen1985 12-04-2012 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 905170)
Glad to see you are back to just totally make stuff up. Who saw me wearing them in a local OTB on Preakness day (this should be good)?

Since you ignored it twice now (hard to believe I know) in regards to the $200 you owe me, I said you can just make a $100 donation to the American Cancer society and we'll call it even. So are you going to, with proof of course?

You have an answer for everything. Ill tell you what since Im in the Christmas spirit. Ill meet you anywhere this Saturday. Ill hand you the $200 I owe you and another $200 for the American Cancer society. Since your so honorable, you can donate the entire $400. This should be a slam dunk.

Sightseek 12-04-2012 07:47 PM

Outside of Queer Eye For the Straight Guy, I don't think I've seen such lively fashion debate from men. :wf

And if you can flaunt them, wear them! :)

http://fashionindiemedia.s3.amazonaw...6/matt-mcc.jpg

Dahoss 12-04-2012 07:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 905245)
You have an answer for everything. Ill tell you what since Im in the Christmas spirit. Ill meet you anywhere this Saturday. Ill hand you the $200 I owe you and another $200 for the American Cancer society. Since your so honorable, you can donate the entire $400. This should be a slam dunk.

Good idea ignoring the Preakness stuff. You must be a horrible poker player as your tells are so obvious. Anytime you get caught in a lie, you just ignore it. Do people outside of the internet fall for this nonsense?

As I have probably told you a thousand times, I have no desire to meet you ever. The only reason you say that is you know it'll never happen and it's a weak attempt to save face.

No need to meet. You can just make the donation on your own and provide a little proof you made it. Why do you need to hand me the money?

Wouldn't it be nice to be a man of your word just once?

Dahoss 12-04-2012 07:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie (Post 905242)
Were the socks from Erie?

That's nasty.

Did he ever pay you the $100 he owed you?

Calzone Lord 12-04-2012 08:36 PM



Left to right: DaHoss, RHT


For about the 243rd time.

goodcopy 12-04-2012 09:18 PM

Great numbers,bad jorts
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis (Post 905173)
No idea. They're functional and stylish.



No # 69?:eek:

Indian Charlie 12-04-2012 10:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 905252)
That's nasty.

Did he ever pay you the $100 he owed you?

LOL.


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