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Kasept 10-10-2012 06:52 AM

FRI 11/2 (SA): Breeders' Cup (Fields Post-Draw; Odds)
 
Breeders' Cup Juvenile Sprint

1. Hightail (Lukas/Maragh) 8-1
2. Ceiling Kitty (Dascombe/JV) 12-1
3. Merit Man (Hess/PVal) 8-5
4. South Floyd (O'Neill/R. Dominguez) 6-1
5. Super Ninety Nine (Baffert/M. Garcia) 5-2
6. Hazardous (O'Callahan/Maldanado) 8-1
7. Sweet Shirley Mae (Ward/Rosario) 4-1



Breeders' Cup Marathon (G2)

1. Atigun (McPeek/M. Smith) 9-2
2. Fame and Glory-GB (O'Brien/Spencer) 5-1
3. Balladry (Harty/J. Graham) 30-1
4. Grassy (M. Jones/Gomez) 30-1
5. Jaycito (Baffert/Talamo) 6-1
6. Calidoscopio-ARG (Puype/Gryder) 8-1
7. Not Abroad (Petro/N. Petro) 5-1
8. Romp-ARG (Mulhall/Rosario) 30-1
9. Almudena-PER (Puype/Valdivia) 30-1
10. Eldaafer (Alvarado/C. Santana) 8-1
11. Commander (Taylor/Mario) 15-1
12. Worth Repeating (Machowsky/M. Pedroza) 5-1
13. Sense of Purpose (Weld/Smullen) 15-1
14. Juniper Pass (Bell/Dettori) 30-1



Breeders' Cup Juvenile Fillies Turf (G1)

1. Kitten's Point (Motion/Bejarano) 12-1
2. Summer of Fun (Weaver/R. Dominguez) 30-1
3. Sky Lantern (Hannon/R. Hughes) 3-1
4. Flotilla-FR (Delzangles/Lemaire) 8-1
5. Spring Venture (Casse/Husbands) 5-1
6. Watsdachances-IRE (Brown/Castallano) 4-1
7. Oscar Party (Catalano/) 20-1
8. Tara from the Cape (Pletcher) 12-1
9. Nancy O (Costigan/Moran) 30-1
10. Waterway Run (Wachman/Dettori) 10-1
11. Moonwalk (Romans/Moran) 20-1
12. The Gold Cheongsam (Noseda/Buick) 20-1
13. Flashy Ways (Gaines/Talamo) 10-1
14. Sustained (Romans/Rosario) 12-1
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15. (AE) Infanta Branca (O'Brien/Moore) 15-1
16. (AE) Moulin de Mougin (Mandella/Nakatani) 15-1



2012 Breeders' Cup Juvenile Fillies (G1)

1. Beholder (Mandella/Gomez) 5-2
2. Executiveprivilege (Baffert/Bejarano) 2-1
3. Spring In The Air (Casse/Husbands) 15-1
4. Renee's Queen (Guillot/Nakatani) 30-1
5. Dreaming of Julia (Pletcher/JV) 5-2
6. Almost an Angel (Ward/Rosario) 30-1
7. Broken Spell (Lukas/Maragh) 20-1
8. Kauai Katie (Pletcher/Napravnik) 3-1



Breeders' Cup Filly and Mare Turf (G1)

1. Star Billing (Shirreffs/Espinoza) 30-1
2. Zagora-FR (Brown/Castallano) 8-1
3. Stormy Lucy (Lucarelli/M. Pedroza) 30-1
4. The Fugue-GB (Gosden/Buick) 7-2
5. Nereid (Shirreffs/Leparoux) 15-1
6. Lady of Shamrock (Sadler/M. Smith) 12-1
7. Up-IRE (O'Brien/Moore) 12-1
-- SCRATCHED (Nahrain-GB)
9. Marketing Mix (Proctor/Gomez) 9-2
10. Ridasiyna-FR (Delzangles/Lemaire) 4-1
11. I'm A Dreamer (Simcock/R. Hughes) 8-1
12. In Lingerie (Pletcher/JV) 12-1



Breeders' Cup Distaff

1. Grace Hall (A. Dutrow/Castellano) 10-1
2. My Miss Aurelia (Asmussen/Nakatani) 4-1
3. Class Included (Penney/R. Baze) 30-1
4. Questing (KMc/I. Ortiz Jr.) 4-1
5. Awesome Feather (Brown/J. Sanchez) 3-1
6. Royal Delta (Mott/M. Smith) 2011 Winner 9-5
7. Include Me Out (Ellis/Talamo) 15-1
8. Love and Pride (Pletcher/JV) 8-1

analyizethis 10-10-2012 07:57 PM

Has there ever been a field with three former BC Champs, two of whom are undefeated?

The Distaff looks like a real opportunity to get some value. Fillies like Questing and In Lingerie will be double digit odds with the top three taking probably 50% of the pool.

cakes44 10-10-2012 08:34 PM

Tapitsfly would be very interesting to me in th turf sprint. Wouldn't want any part of her at 5 furlongs, but 6.5 down the hill could be a different story

letswastemoney 10-10-2012 08:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by analyizethis (Post 895206)
Has there ever been a field with three former BC Champs, two of whom are undefeated?

The Distaff looks like a real opportunity to get some value. Fillies like Questing and In Lingerie will be double digit odds with the top three taking probably 50% of the pool.

If this were the synthetic Breeders' Cup, I'd love In Lingerie.

Dahoss 10-10-2012 08:51 PM

God I hope Questing is double digit odds in the Breeders Cup.

hockey2315 10-10-2012 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 895215)
God I hope Questing is double digit odds in the Breeders Cup.

Same here. . . I don't think it's happening, but that would be insane.

I'm not greedy--I'll take 6-1.

Kasept 10-11-2012 04:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by letswastemoney (Post 895212)
If this were the synthetic Breeders' Cup, I'd love In Lingerie.

Looks like they'll consider the F&M Turf for her..

http://www.drf.com/news/breeders-cup...train-big-race

Meanwhile, another 3-year-old filly, In Lingerie, could make an appearance in the Filly and Mare Turf, despite not having raced on the grass. Winner of last Saturday’s Grade 1 Spinster at Keeneland, she is a multiple winner on Polytrack, a surface on which some turf horses show an affinity.

Aron Wellman of Eclipse Thoroughbred Partners, the partnership that co-owns the filly with Gary Barber, said they are keeping the Filly and Mare Turf under consideration, along with the Ladies’ Classic.

She was shipped from Keeneland to Santa Anita on Tuesday and is preparing for the Breeders’ Cup, with her specific Breeders’ Cup race to be determined in the weeks ahead. She could be cross-entered in both races, Wellman said.

analyizethis 10-11-2012 10:28 AM

I was figuring that the undefeated My Miss Aurelia would be in the group with Awesome Feathers and Royal Delta eating up 50% of the betting pool. I recognize that she did have a 7 pound allowance in the Cotillion but it was only her second start in almost 11 months and clearly Assmussen's target is the BC. I always have to look hard at undefeated runners who get ignored because they are thought to be too slow.

I am going to spread in the multi race bets but the bets on this race individually will need to be dicated by value on the tote.

Indian Charlie 10-11-2012 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kasept (Post 895053)
Breeders' Cup Juvenile Sprint

Baby J (R. Dutrow)
Beholder (Mandella) ** Juvenile Fillies
Carried Interest (Violette)
Dance Card (KMc)
Drum Roll (Pletcher)
Eden's Moon (Ellis)
Handsome Jack (Ward)
Kauai Katie (Pletcher)
Merit Man (Hess)
Scherer Magic (Sadler)
Special Jo (Asmussen)
Tree of Life (Dollase)
Weekend Hideaway (Serpe)

I did not realize Ron Ellis took over the training for Eden's Moon!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Indian Charlie 10-11-2012 12:16 PM

I hope Rupert doesn't get too upset with me.

letswastemoney 10-11-2012 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by analyizethis (Post 895264)
I was figuring that the undefeated My Miss Aurelia would be in the group with Awesome Feathers and Royal Delta eating up 50% of the betting pool. I recognize that she did have a 7 pound allowance in the Cotillion but it was only her second start in almost 11 months and clearly Assmussen's target is the BC. I always have to look hard at undefeated runners who get ignored because they are thought to be too slow.

I am going to spread in the multi race bets but the bets on this race individually will need to be dicated by value on the tote.

My Miss Aurelia has quite a large fanbase. I'd be surprised if her odds creeped up above Questing, especially now that she defeated Questing.

It's hard to think of examples when undefeated horses are ignored. Normally, an undefeated horse is the only factor that can overshadow horses with high Beyer Speed Figures.

my miss storm cat 10-15-2012 01:16 PM

ThurloeThoroughbreds‏@ThurloeThbreds

Finally, WATERWAY RUN is being prepared for her trip to California where she will be taking her place in the BREEDERS CUP FILLIES JUVENILE.


https://twitter.com/ThurloeThbreds

hockey2315 10-15-2012 11:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by my miss storm cat (Post 896160)
ThurloeThoroughbreds‏@ThurloeThbreds

Finally, WATERWAY RUN is being prepared for her trip to California where she will be taking her place in the BREEDERS CUP FILLIES JUVENILE.


https://twitter.com/ThurloeThbreds

Intriguing. . . she's definitely bred for a dirt route.

Alan07 10-18-2012 06:04 AM

Ridasiyna is coming for the F&M Turf, per the Aga Kahn twitter.

Kasept 10-18-2012 07:12 AM

Fri. possibles updated..

Kasept 10-19-2012 01:36 PM

Dubb makes it official for My Happy Face who will stay at home in NY and run in the Tempted..

Kasept 10-20-2012 01:45 PM

@DRFPrivman Scarlet Strike will not run in BC Juvenile Fillies, owing to concern over not being able to use Lasix, Hollendorfer just told me.

Round Pen 10-20-2012 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kasept (Post 897136)
@DRFPrivman Scarlet Strike will not run in BC Juvenile Fillies, owing to concern over not being able to use Lasix, Hollendorfer just told me.

The way things are going there might only be 5 or 6 in the Juvy fillies.
:(

Alan07 10-21-2012 10:29 AM

@DRFGrening: Todd said Kauai Katie will pre-enter Juvenile Fillies & Juvenile Sprint. She worked 5f in co w Turbulent Descent in 1:00.81

GPK 10-21-2012 06:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Round Pen (Post 897183)
The way things are going there might only be 5 or 6 in the Juvy fillies.
:(

Doesn't matter...none of them beating Beholder.

Round Pen 10-21-2012 07:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GPK (Post 897405)
Doesn't matter...none of them beating Beholder.

Really, By a Sprinter out of a Sprinter good luck with that at the 1/8th pole:D

VOL JACK 10-22-2012 12:36 PM

Kittens Dumplings is out.

alysheba1988 10-22-2012 02:37 PM

According to Grening at DRF Royal Delta is pre-entered in Ladies Classic
(1st pref) and the Classic. Stating Mott said the owner wants options should they change their mind. Welsch tweeted that her work today at Belmont was "brilliant." Love to see her go against the boys.

alysheba4 10-22-2012 02:57 PM

it would make the race more exciting for sure.

FATPIANO 10-22-2012 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alysheba1988 (Post 897534)
According to Grening at DRF Royal Delta is pre-entered in Ladies Classic
(1st pref) and the Classic. Stating Mott said the owner wants options should they change their mind. Welsch tweeted that her work today at Belmont was "brilliant." Love to see her go against the boys.

She belongs in The Classic, bring on the boys..:{>:

dpkovalesky 10-23-2012 04:50 PM

zagora is out of the F&M Turf??

Kasept 10-24-2012 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dpkovalesky (Post 897784)
zagora is out of the F&M Turf??

No.. She's there..

Kasept 10-24-2012 11:04 AM

PRE-ENTRY PP'S

Kasept 10-24-2012 01:23 PM

Breeders' Cup Juvenile Sprint

1. Hightail (Lukas/Maragh) 8-1
2. Ceiling Kitty (Dascombe/JV) 12-1
3. Merit Man (Hess/PVal) 8-5
4. South Floyd (O'Neill/R. Dominguez) 6-1
5. Super Ninety Nine (Baffert/M. Garcia) 5-2
6. Hazardous (O'Callahan/Maldanado) 8-1
7. Sweet Shirley Mae (Ward/Rosario) 4-1



Breeders' Cup Marathon (G2)

1. Atigun (McPeek/M. Smith) 9-2
2. Fame and Glory-GB (O'Brien/Spencer) 5-1
3. Balladry (Harty/J. Graham) 30-1
4. Grassy (M. Jones/Gomez) 30-1
5. Jaycito (Baffert/Talamo) 6-1
6. Calidoscopio-ARG (Puype/Gryder) 8-1
7. Not Abroad (Petro/N. Petro) 5-1
8. Romp-ARG (Mulhall/Rosario) 30-1
9. Almudena-PER (Puype/Valdivia) 30-1
10. Eldaafer (Alvarado/C. Santana) 8-1
11. Commander (Taylor/Mario) 15-1
12. Worth Repeating (Machowsky/M. Pedroza) 5-1
13. Sense of Purpose (Weld/Smullen) 15-1
14. Juniper Pass (Bell/Dettori) 30-1



Breeders' Cup Juvenile Fillies Turf (G1)

1. Kitten's Point (Motion/Bejarano) 12-1
2. Summer of Fun (Weaver/R. Dominguez) 30-1
3. Sky Lantern (Hannon/R. Hughes) 3-1
4. Flotilla-FR (Delzangles/Lemaire) 8-1
5. Spring Venture (Casse/Husbands) 5-1
6. Watsdachances-IRE (Brown/Castallano) 4-1
7. Oscar Party (Catalano/) 20-1
8. Tara from the Cape (Pletcher) 12-1
9. Nancy O (Costigan/Moran) 30-1
10. Waterway Run (Wachman/Dettori) 10-1
11. Moonwalk (Romans/Moran) 20-1
12. The Gold Cheongsam (Noseda/Buick) 20-1
13. Flashy Ways (Gaines/Talamo) 10-1
14. Sustained (Romans/Rosario) 12-1
---------------------------------------------------
15. (AE) Infanta Branca (O'Brien/Moore) 15-1
16. (AE) Moulin de Mougin (Mandella/Nakatani) 15-1



2012 Breeders' Cup Juvenile Fillies (G1)

1. Beholder (Mandella/Gomez) 5-2
2. Executiveprivilege (Baffert/Bejarano) 2-1
3. Spring In The Air (Casse/Husbands) 15-1
4. Renee's Queen (Guillot/Nakatani) 30-1
5. Dreaming of Julia (Pletcher/JV) 5-2
6. Almost an Angel (Ward/Rosario) 30-1
7. Broken Spell (Lukas/Maragh) 20-1
8. Kauai Katie (Pletcher/Napravnik) 3-1



Breeders' Cup Filly and Mare Turf (G1)

1. Star Billing (Shirreffs/Espinoza) 30-1
2. Zagora-FR (Brown/Castallano) 8-1
3. Stormy Lucy (Lucarelli/M. Pedroza) 30-1
4. The Fugue-GB (Gosden/Buick) 7-2
5. Nereid (Shirreffs/Leparoux) 15-1
6. Lady of Shamrock (Sadler/M. Smith) 12-1
7. Up-IRE (O'Brien/Moore) 12-1
8. Nahrain-GB (Varian/Dettori) 6-1
9. Marketing Mix (Proctor/Gomez) 9-2
10. Ridasiyna-FR (Delzangles/Lemaire) 4-1
11. I'm A Dreamer (Simcock/R. Hughes) 8-1
12. In Lingerie (Pletcher/JV) 12-1



Breeders' Cup Distaff

1. Grace Hall (A. Dutrow/Castellano) 10-1
2. My Miss Aurelia (Asmussen/Nakatani) 4-1
3. Class Included (Penney/R. Baze) 30-1
4. Questing (KMc/I. Ortiz Jr.) 4-1
5. Awesome Feather (Brown/J. Sanchez) 3-1
6. Royal Delta (Mott/M. Smith) 2011 Winner 9-5
7. Include Me Out (Ellis/Talamo) 15-1
8. Love and Pride (Pletcher/JV) 8-1

tywizard 10-25-2012 07:34 PM

The Distaff looks like a race where everyone wants to be on or very near the lead....While none of them would necessarily "need" the lead, it seems like it could fall apart, right? Or, do most of them have enough class that this isn't an issue?

With the potential race setup I think Include Me Out has a shot.

tywizard 10-25-2012 07:47 PM

In Lingerie - G1 on Poly, G2 on Dirt....Trying to get Graded Turf win? I can't get a good feel for this race...

-BT- 10-26-2012 12:51 PM

i almost don't even want to attempt to cap these races b/c the bc marathon race is pissing me off that much, a pointless race and a total crapshoot

-bt-

Travis Stone 10-26-2012 01:26 PM

What's the consensus on how SA is playing? I haven't dabbled much there this meet, but when I did, I felt like it was a guess as to whether or not the race would fall apart. A lot of the BC races are pretty heavy in early speed too.

King Glorious 10-29-2012 02:45 PM

With Kauai Katie being entered in the Juvenile Fillies instead of the Juvenile Sprint, I have a feeling that this is a show of non-confidence in Dreaming of Julia. I don't think Pletcher would have opted to take a horse that would have been a heavy favorite in a $500k race and throw her into another race, to face conditions she's never faced before, against much stronger competition, to face another of his own horses who is a very strong contender in the race....if he had confidence in Julia. I could see if it was different ownership but that's not the case here.

Sightseek 10-29-2012 03:04 PM

Anyone looking for some riveting television -- live draw streaming here:

http://www.breederscup.com/

Kasept 10-29-2012 03:25 PM

Friday fields (except Distaff) drawn.. See Post #1.

Kasept 10-29-2012 05:00 PM

Breeders' Cup Juvenile Sprint

1. Hightail (Lukas/Maragh)
2. Ceiling Kitty (Dascombe/JV)
3. Merit Man (Hess/PVal)
4. South Floyd (O'Neill/R. Dominguez)
5. Super Ninety Nine (Baffert/M. Garcia)
6. Hazardous (O'Callahan/Maldanado)
7. Sweet Shirley Mae (Ward/Rosario)



Breeders' Cup Marathon (G2)

1. Atigun (McPeek/M. Smith)
2. Fame and Glory-GB (O'Brien/Spencer)
3. Balladry (Harty/J. Graham)
4. Grassy (M. Jones/Gomez)
5. Jaycito (Baffert/Talamo)
6. Calidoscopio-ARG (Frenkel-Santillan/Gryder)
7. Not Abroad (Petro/N. Petro)
8. Romp-ARG (Mulhall/Rosario)
9. Almudena-PER (Puype/Valdivia)
10. Eldaafer (Alvarado/C. Santana)
11. Commander (Taylor/Mario)
12. Worth Repeating (Machowsky/M. Pedroza)
13. Sense of Purpose (Weld/Smullen)
14. Juniper Pass (Bell/Dettori)



Breeders' Cup Juvenile Fillies Turf (G1)

1. Kitten's Point (Motion/Bejarano)
2. Summer of Fun (Weaver/R. Dominguez)
3. Sky Lantern (Hannon/R. Hughes)
4. Flotilla-FR (Delzangles/Lemaire)
5. Spring Venture (Casse/Husbands)
6. Watsdachances-IRE (Brown/Castallano)
7. Oscar Party (Catalano/)
8. Tara from the Cape (Pletcher)
9. Nancy O (Costigan/)
10. Waterway Run (Wachman/Dettori)
11. Moonwalk (Romans/Moran)
12. The Gold Cheongsam (Noseda/Buick)
13. Flashy Ways (Gaines/Talamo)
14. Sustained (Romans/Rosario)
---------------------------------------------------
15. (AE) Infanta Branca (O'Brien/Moore)
16. (AE) Moulin de Mougin (Mandella/Nakatani)



2012 Breeders' Cup Juvenile Fillies (G1)

1. Beholder (Mandella/Gomez)
2. Executiveprivilege (Baffert/Bejarano)
3. Spring In The Air (Casse/Husbands)
4. Renee's Queen (Guillot/Nakatani)
5. Dreaming of Julia (Pletcher/JV)
6. Almost an Angel (Ward/Rosario)
7. Broken Spell (Lukas/Maragh)
8. Kauai Katie (Pletcher/Napravnik)


Breeders' Cup Filly and Mare Turf (G1)

1. Star Billing (Shirreffs/Espinoza)
2. Zagora-FR (Brown/Castallano)
3. Stormy Lucy (Lucarelli/M. Pedroza)
4. The Fugue-GB (Gosden/Buick)
5. Nereid (Shirreffs/Leparoux)
6. Lady of Shamrock (Sadler/M. Smith)
7. Up-IRE (O'Brien/Moore)
8. Nahrain-GB (Varian/Dettori)
9. Marketing Mix (Proctor/Gomez)
10. Ridasiyna-FR (Delzangles/Lemaire)
11. I'm A Dreamer (Simcock/R. Hughes)
12. In Lingerie (Pletcher/JV)



Breeders' Cup Distaff

1. Grace Hall (A. Dutrow/Castellano) 10-1
2. My Miss Aurelia (Asmussen/Nakatani) 4-1
3. Class Included (Penney/R. Baze) 30-1
4. Questing (KMc/I. Ortiz Jr.) 4-1
5. Awesome Feather (Brown/J. Sanchez) 3-1
6. Royal Delta (Mott/M. Smith) 2011 Winner 9-5
7. Include Me Out (Ellis/Talamo) 15-1
8. Love and Pride (Pletcher/JV) 8-1

brockguy 10-29-2012 05:17 PM

I am convinced Delzanges will win with either or both Flotilla and Ridasiyna!

Kasept 10-29-2012 06:08 PM

Breeders' Cup Distaff

1. Grace Hall (A. Dutrow/Castellano) 10-1
2. My Miss Aurelia (Asmussen/Nakatani) 4-1
3. Class Included (Penney/R. Baze) 30-1
4. Questing (KMc/I. Ortiz Jr.) 4-1
5. Awesome Feather (Brown/J. Sanchez) 3-1
6. Royal Delta (Mott/M. Smith) 2011 Winner 9-5
7. Include Me Out (Ellis/Talamo) 15-1
8. Love and Pride (Pletcher/JV) 8-1

alysheba4 10-29-2012 06:30 PM

i hope i can get 2-1 / 5-2 on R.D. think she rolls.


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