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DaTruth 08-11-2012 11:49 AM

It is time to reveal the real Paul Ryan
 
Paul Ryan worked in a Janesville, Wisconsin butcher shop while a teenager. Ryan would secretly place a lead bar on the scale when weighing meat purchased by elderly customers. Ryan also dealt crack to their grandchildren.

alysheba4 08-11-2012 11:51 AM

he took a shockingly huge dump yesterday.........

jms62 08-11-2012 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by DaTruth (Post 882533)
Paul Ryan worked in a Janesville, Wisconsin butcher shop while a teenager. Ryan would secretly place a lead bar on the scale when weighing meat purchased by elderly customers. Ryan also dealt crack to their grandchildren.

Where was he on the night Caylee Anthony disappeared? If he doesnt answer he is guilty in the court of public opinion.

geeker2 08-11-2012 01:23 PM

I have it from an unconfirmed source and confirmed by another unconfirmed source that he really did push a woman in a wheel chair off a cliff.

pointman 08-11-2012 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by geeker2 (Post 882571)
I have it from an unconfirmed source and confirmed by another unconfirmed source that he really did push a woman in a wheel chair off a cliff.

You are on a roll! :tro:

geeker2 08-11-2012 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by pointman (Post 882572)
You are on a roll! :tro:

now if I could just pick a few horses :D

DaTruth 08-11-2012 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by pointman (Post 882572)
You are on a roll! :tro:

Did you mean "role" instead? Maybe you ought to ask Ri(di)ot.

pointman 08-11-2012 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by DaTruth (Post 882623)
Did you mean "role" instead? Maybe you ought to ask Ri(di)ot.

:D
:tro:

my miss storm cat 08-11-2012 03:50 PM

I've always thought that Blame looked kinda like a guy in a horsie suit in the Classic.

I wonder...

Rileyoriley 08-11-2012 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by my miss storm cat (Post 882647)
I've always thought that Blame looked kinda like a guy in a horsie suit in the Classic.

I wonder...

If you have a secret source to confirm this then that means Zenyatta really won and retired undefeated!!!!:D

Thepaindispenser 08-12-2012 09:20 PM

http://www.americanthinker.com/print...h_of_math.html

Look at the rage in Obama's eyes after getting tripped up by Ryan. The Ryan/Biden debate is almost unfair, but Biden is such an arrogant, elitist, clueless, corrupt idiot, he deserves the hurting Ryan will put on him.

DaTruth 08-13-2012 12:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Thepaindispenser (Post 882952)
http://www.americanthinker.com/print...h_of_math.html

Look at the rage in Obama's eyes after getting tripped up by Ryan. The Ryan/Biden debate is almost unfair, but Biden is such an arrogant, elitist, clueless, corrupt idiot, he deserves the hurting Ryan will put on him.

In the Obama world, 1 is the new 2, and 1+1 equals whatever you want it to be.

Dahoss 08-13-2012 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Thepaindispenser (Post 882952)
http://www.americanthinker.com/print...h_of_math.html

Look at the rage in Obama's eyes after getting tripped up by Ryan. The Ryan/Biden debate is almost unfair, but Biden is such an arrogant, elitist, clueless, corrupt idiot, he deserves the hurting Ryan will put on him.

The rage in his eyes? As nutty as Riot is (and she's batty) some of you guys are as bad, if not worse.

You're on a horse racing message board. Any interest in horse racing? What did you think of the 2 year old stakes at Saratoga yesterday?

alysheba4 08-13-2012 12:27 PM

i thought it sucked.......i needed that woodbine mule.

Thepaindispenser 08-13-2012 08:34 PM

Hey Dahoss, I think Kauai Katie is a nice horse who should have no problem stretching out. I think Spurious Precision will go south by the Breeder's Cup. I am looking forward to seeing what Shanghai Bobby can do.

Now back to the rage on Obama's face after getting flustered by Ryan, check it out, it is hilarious. Obama without a teleprompter is a gaffe waiting to happen.

Riot 08-13-2012 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Thepaindispenser (Post 883151)
Now back to the rage on Obama's face after getting flustered by Ryan, check it out, it is hilarious. Obama without a teleprompter is a gaffe waiting to happen.

There is no "rage". How absurdly Freeper :D

And everybody who watched that meeting, including the pundits on the right, acknowledged that Obama "owned" the GOP. That's why the GOP refused to repeat the public meeting idea again - which THEY asked for in the first place! They were completely embarrassed by how poorly they came off. LOL !

Fact is, Obama speaks wonderfully without a teleprompter, and has done so frequently and publicly.

That "teleprompter" nonsense was the most laughable and pathetic "meme" fed to the unthinking lackeys by the GOP last election cycle.

It started due to Palin's public implosion the two weeks after she was put on the ticket (the Couric interview disaster, the Gibson interview disaster) - Republican campaign operatives commonly tend to throw what they are doing wrong back at the other side in an attempt at distraction. It's the "I know I am, but what are you" and "I'm rubber, you're glue" debate style of the 6-year-old.

Like they way they say, "You said the word black, that means you're racist" crap.

Like Romney's new ad released this am, 100% lying about Obama and work/welfare.

Hysteria and rage is how those that see the writing on the wall react when they fear they will lose their power. It's worsening now, as the Republican Party is gone, taken over by the Tea Party. Lots of party infighting now.

Thepaindispenser 08-13-2012 09:52 PM

Again Riot shows how little she knows about anything that doesn't come straight from her liberal masters. When Obama had the bully pulpit all to himself while fielding questions from Republicans on health care the MSM made it like Obama ate them up which lead to the televised debate which even the MSM not only admitted that Obama didn't win but they praised Paul Ryan for his knowledge of the material. So you can LOL all you want but people with brains are laughing at you.

Really Obama speaks wonderfully without a Teleprompter? Then why does he rarely take non-scripted questions? How many press conferences has he held where reporters are free to ask questions? How many times did we hear "uh uh uh" during debates in 2008? I can't wait to hear that again.

Just like the Joe Septic Super PAC ad which is a 100% lie and Harry Reid baseless accusations both of which Obama has yet to denounce.

I have a question for you Riot, if Romney hasn't paid taxes in 20 years then why hasn't he been prosecuted by the IRS?

Riot 08-13-2012 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Thepaindispenser (Post 883178)
Again Riot shows how little she knows about anything that doesn't come straight from her liberal masters. When Obama had the bully pulpit all to himself while fielding questions from Republicans on health care the MSM made it like Obama ate them up which lead to the televised debate which even the MSM not only admitted that Obama didn't win but they praised Paul Ryan for his knowledge of the material. So you can LOL all you want but people with brains are laughing at you.

Blah, blah, blah, hate, blah, Obama sux. Useless drool.

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Really Obama speaks wonderfully without a Teleprompter? Then why does he rarely take non-scripted questions?
He often takes questions from the press. He speaks wonderfully without a teleprompter. Check it out on YouTube or C-span.

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How many press conferences has he held where reporters are free to ask questions?
Many.

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How many times did we hear "uh uh uh" during debates in 2008? I can't wait to hear that again.
Sorry that speech habit distress you. That has nothing to do with his ability to speak with substance and meaning without a teleprompter.

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Just like the Joe Septic Super PAC ad which is a 100% lie
Which words in that ad were a lie?

What do you think about Romney's ad this AM, a second ad 100% lying about Obama and work/welfare? Called out immediately by the press, on top of the four other Romney ads that have been deemed 100% false this season. You haven't said a thing about that. And Romney has the reputation of being one of the most lying candidates - on the stump, in his ads - in memory, and that's NOT coming only from the lefties. It's coming from independent factcheckers.


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I have a question for you Riot, if Romney hasn't paid taxes in 20 years then why hasn't he been prosecuted by the IRS?
First, nobody has said 20 years except you. Harry Reid said 10 years. Secondly, why would he be prosecuted - has he broken the law? Do you realize that saying he hasn't paid taxes on his millions is not the same thing as saying he broke the law? No? Guess not. Nuance. You doan have it.

Do you know if he took tax amnesty for his offshore accounts? No, we don't. Would you like to know? I would!

Thepaindispenser 08-13-2012 10:15 PM

Now actually try answering my questions without your vague, baseless responses. I already busted you on the health care debate.

richard burch 08-13-2012 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by alysheba4 (Post 882534)
he took a shockingly huge dump yesterday.........

great one!!

Riot 08-13-2012 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Thepaindispenser (Post 883182)
Now actually try answering my questions without your vague, baseless responses. I already busted you on the health care debate.

Your level of debate skill and political acumen are on brilliant display for all to appreciate, as it always has been here on Dee Tee ;)

When you get angry, you can't hide your usual typing style and word use. Better watch that, or more people will figure out who you really are.

DaTruth 08-13-2012 11:02 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T73phKWYHTc

1:41 is a classic. "The reforms we seek will bring greater . . . inefficiencies to our healthcare system."

Thepaindispenser 08-14-2012 07:13 AM

Here goes Riot again with the classic strategy right out of her idol David Axelrod's play book, which is when you don't have anything intelligent to say then attack the poster personally. What is next Riot? I am shocked you haven't called me a racist yet, which is what an obama worshipper does when they are basically admitting they have lost the argument.

jms62 08-14-2012 12:20 PM

http://finance.yahoo.com/blogs/daily...3Rpb25z;_ylv=3

Danzig 08-14-2012 05:36 PM

•Maintains Defense spending that is nearly twice the $400 billion (adjusted for today's dollars) that General Eisenhower spent in the 1960s
•Shreds the safety net provided by $100 billion in food stamps and $300 billion in Medicaid
•Does not cut one dime from Medicare or Social Security for another decade
•Includes no serious plan to create jobs
•Radically cuts taxes on the richest Americans while eliminating tax breaks that mostly help the middle class
•Fails to even consider a "value-added sales tax," which is the only way the country can begin to climb out of its budget hole



the bolded above is from the story jms linked.

on the first bullet-it's absurd. i think the two biggest problems i have with republicans are their love of defense spending (which is already incredibly massive, exactly why does it need increasing?) and their continued song and dance of tax cuts for the wealthiest, who pay less and less as the years go by. and as they pay less, the jobs don't increase, and the debt grows. so exactly what does giving tax breaks to the wealthy accomplish? well, nothing, unless you're the wealthy guy laughing because he's doing better and better.

bullet number three-again, other than defense, medicare/caid and ss are the other huge drain on the fed. that and defense are the two elephants in the corner that everyone ignores. ignoring those programs does nothing to address the concerns there. a small move now would not only put things back on track, but would lessen the larger, and more painful moves that would be needed in future if nothing is done now-and has anyone seen anyone in d.c. make any move there? nope. the payroll tax cuts that keep getting argued about-that's a lowering of ss payments. yeah, the program needing help-it's got less funds coming in than planned for, so that hole will grow.

the next two points, see my comments about the first bullet point. as the article i linked to the other day showed, the higher taxes were on the wealthy, the more they grew jobs-perhaps because that was a way to avoid taxes, and perhaps shelter some of the money by putting it in business? lower taxes, hell, they'll just let that stuff sit there and accumulate-and that's exactly what they're doing with it.

pointman 08-15-2012 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 883179)

First, nobody has said 20 years except you. Harry Reid said 10 years. Secondly, why would he be prosecuted - has he broken the law? Do you realize that saying he hasn't paid taxes on his millions is not the same thing as saying he broke the law? No? Guess not. Nuance. You doan have it.

Do you know if he took tax amnesty for his offshore accounts? No, we don't. Would you like to know? I would!

What absolute nonsense. If Romney dodged taxes on millions of dollars he should and would be prosecuted. Your answer is nothing but drivel dodging the obvious.

If making tax returns public is so important, than why does Harry Reid refuse to release his tax returns?

Riot 08-15-2012 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by pointman (Post 883516)
What absolute nonsense. If Romney dodged taxes on millions of dollars he should and would be prosecuted. Your answer is not but drivel dodging the obvious.

Try hard to post without drooling insults out of the side of your mouth.

Did Romney take the IRS tax amnesty for his offshore accounts to prevent being prosecuted, or not? He refuses to show us the returns that give that info.

pointman 08-15-2012 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 883520)
Try hard to post without drooling insults out of the side of your mouth.

Did Romney take the IRS tax amnesty for his offshore accounts to prevent being prosecuted, or not? He refuses to show us the returns that give that info.

Try answering the question I posed instead of your typical deflection with insults. Why won't Reid release his own tax returns?

Riot 08-15-2012 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by pointman (Post 883521)
Try answering the question I posed instead of your typical deflection with insults. Why won't Reid release his own tax returns?

Reid isn't the subject. Romney is. Did Romney take the IRS tax amnesty, to avoid prosecution for his offshore accounts tax havens?

Inquiring minds want to know, and Romney refuses to tell.

BTW, Ann Romney taped an interview with Brian Williams that will be shown tomorrow night, and clip are already out: she gets pretty damn huffy about their income taxes. Doesn't help their cause.

pointman 08-15-2012 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 883531)
Reid isn't the subject. Romney is. Did Romney take the IRS tax amnesty, to avoid prosecution for his offshore accounts tax havens?

Inquiring minds want to know, and Romney refuses to tell.

BTW, Ann Romney taped an interview with Brian Williams that will be shown tomorrow night, and clip are already out: she gets pretty damn huffy about their income taxes. Doesn't help their cause.

Just what I thought. The real answer is that Reid won't release his own tax returns because this is a canard. Romney is absolutely right not to release his returns just so the Democrats can use is to create more false B.S. issues. Once again, thanks for playing.

Riot 08-15-2012 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by pointman (Post 883535)
Just what I thought. The real answer is that Reid won't release his own tax returns because this is a canard. Romney is absolutely right not to release his returns just so the Democrats can use is to create more false B.S. issues. Once again, thanks for playing.

Harry Reid isn't running for President. Who the hell gives a damn about his returns?

Mitt Romney is running for President. Mitt Romney himself, when he was running for Gov. of Mass, said, "Offshore accounts are just places to hide money".

Did Mitt Romney take IRS tax amnesty to avoid prosecution for his offshore accounts, and tax shelters in the Caymens? Romney won't tell. Romney hasn't even released one full year of taxes - he's withheld documents.

Considering Romney lied outright to the public in his run for Governor of Mass., and was caught lying repeatedly and outed publicly about what state he used as his home state on his returns (he lied and said it was Mass, but it was Utah, and that was outed publicly, and Romney refiled to change it) - nobody is believing Romney now when he says he's not done anything illegal with his taxes.

Clip-Clop 08-15-2012 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 883542)
Harry Reid isn't running for President. Who the hell gives a damn about his returns?

Mitt Romney is running for President. Mitt Romney himself, when he was running for Gov. of Mass, said, "Offshore accounts are just places to hide money".

Did Mitt Romney take IRS tax amnesty to avoid prosecution for his offshore accounts, and tax shelters in the Caymens? Romney won't tell. Romney hasn't even released one full year of taxes - he's withheld documents.

Considering Romney lied outright to the public in his run for Governor of Mass., and was caught lying repeatedly and outed publicly about what state he used as his home state on his returns (he lied and said it was Mass, but it was Utah, and that was outed publicly, and Romney refiled to change it) - nobody is believing Romney now when he says he's not done anything illegal with his taxes.

So you are saying that lying while running for office is unacceptable and anyone caught doing so should not be considered electable right?

Clip-Clop 08-15-2012 03:56 PM

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...romise-broken/

Clip-Clop 08-15-2012 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Clip-Clop (Post 883557)

Some of these are really good ideas too. Shame they were all lies.

Riot 08-15-2012 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Clip-Clop (Post 883553)
So you are saying that lying while running for office is unacceptable and anyone caught doing so should not be considered electable right?

No.

I think that lying while running for office is something that voters have an absolute right to investigate, in order to make decisions before they vote.

dellinger63 08-15-2012 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Clip-Clop (Post 883559)
Some of these are really good ideas too. Shame they were all lies.

As Don King would say, "Only in America"

Feelings both actual and conceived now trump common sense both present and future.

Clip-Clop 08-15-2012 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63 (Post 883562)
As Don King would say, "Only in America"

Feelings both actual and conceived now trump common sense both present and future.

Trump?

Racist birther.

Clip-Clop 08-15-2012 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 883561)
No.

I think that lying while running for office is something that voters have an absolute right to investigate, in order to make decisions before they vote.

Unless they are uneducated and swept up in the greatest marketing campaign in history of course.

pointman 08-15-2012 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 883561)
No.

I think that lying while running for office is something that voters have an absolute right to investigate, in order to make decisions before they vote.

So do you think that proven lies used when pandering to certain voters, such as Obama's claims in a 2007 speech in Selma, Alabama that President Kennedy sponsered the airlift in Africa responsible for bringing his family to the U.S, when in reality Obama's father came to the U.S. 2 years before JFK was President and his claim that Selma's 1965 Bloody Sunday demonstration brought his parents together which led to his birth when in fact he was born four years before that demonstration are more important regarding a candidate's qualifications than the pure speculation that Romney is lying about dodging the payment of his taxes?

Riot 08-15-2012 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Clip-Clop (Post 883578)
Unless they are uneducated and swept up in the greatest marketing campaign in history of course.

All politics is marketing. That's why Mitt's week has been completely disastrous. Sheldon Adelson has hundreds of millions and has said he'll spend them. They are currently outspending 4 to 1. Not getting much for it, however, the poll numbers just won't rise.

I hope Sheldon gets to purchase his Department of Justice via his owned operative President Romney, in order to halt that currently ongoing federal investigation that would ruin his business.

Wow - can you imagine if candidate Obama did that? What would be said about it? Limbaugh, Erickson, Hannity - their heads would literally explode, wouldn't they?

Marketing - Fodder of Xenophobes knows how to do it best :tro:


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