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bigrun 08-07-2012 11:47 AM

Romney's VP choice
 
Who will it be? He will be in VA Saturday.

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Some speculate that the jaunt has the makings of a vice presidential rollout, just weeks before the Republican National Convention in Tampa, Fla.
My guess is Rubio for obvious reasons...and the rest of the field is weak.

What ever happened to J C Watts? Thought he was a great speaker and would go higher in GOP. All-American QB to boot..

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Watts delivered the Republican response to Bill Clinton's 1997 State of the Union address and was elected Chair of the House Republican Conference in 1998. He retired in 2003 and turned to lobbying and business work.
Why? :$: I guess.

dellinger63 08-07-2012 12:48 PM

How about a guy who graduated from West Point in 1974, earned the General George C. Marshall Award as the top graduate of the U.S. Army Command and General Staff College Class of 1983 at Fort Leavenworth, Kansas. Subsequently earned an M.P.A. in 1985 and a Ph.D. degree in international relations in 1987 from Princeton University's Woodrow Wilson School of Public and International Affairs, then served as an Assistant Professor of International Relations at the U.S. Military Academy from 1985 to 1987. His doctoral dissertation was entitled "The American Military and the Lessons of Vietnam: A Study of Military Influence and the Use of Force in the Post-Vietnam Era". Then completed a military fellowship at Georgetown University's Edmund A. Walsh School of Foreign Service in 1994–1995.

A man who was nominated to head the CIA by President Obama and was confirmed by the Senate 94-0 (wonder who the 6 holdouts were).

Is there such a man or is this a myth?

Fortunately for America there is such a man!

bigrun 08-07-2012 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63 (Post 881169)
How about a guy who graduated from West Point in 1974, earned the General George C. Marshall Award as the top graduate of the U.S. Army Command and General Staff College Class of 1983 at Fort Leavenworth, Kansas. Subsequently earned an M.P.A. in 1985 and a Ph.D. degree in international relations in 1987 from Princeton University's Woodrow Wilson School of Public and International Affairs, then served as an Assistant Professor of International Relations at the U.S. Military Academy from 1985 to 1987. His doctoral dissertation was entitled "The American Military and the Lessons of Vietnam: A Study of Military Influence and the Use of Force in the Post-Vietnam Era". Then completed a military fellowship at Georgetown University's Edmund A. Walsh School of Foreign Service in 1994–1995.

A man who was nominated to head the CIA by President Obama and was confirmed by the Senate 94-0 (wonder who the 6 holdouts were).

Is there such a man or is this a myth?

Fortunately for America there is such a man!


VP for Gen. Petraeus would be a waste...Romney should be his running mate..Make the switch now and i might switch sides...:tro:

jms62 08-07-2012 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63 (Post 881169)
How about a guy who graduated from West Point in 1974, earned the General George C. Marshall Award as the top graduate of the U.S. Army Command and General Staff College Class of 1983 at Fort Leavenworth, Kansas. Subsequently earned an M.P.A. in 1985 and a Ph.D. degree in international relations in 1987 from Princeton University's Woodrow Wilson School of Public and International Affairs, then served as an Assistant Professor of International Relations at the U.S. Military Academy from 1985 to 1987. His doctoral dissertation was entitled "The American Military and the Lessons of Vietnam: A Study of Military Influence and the Use of Force in the Post-Vietnam Era". Then completed a military fellowship at Georgetown University's Edmund A. Walsh School of Foreign Service in 1994–1995.

A man who was nominated to head the CIA by President Obama and was confirmed by the Senate 94-0 (wonder who the 6 holdouts were).

Is there such a man or is this a myth?

Fortunately for America there is such a man!

Just what we need someone that will support us leaking BILLIONS of dollars a day in unwinnable wars..

dellinger63 08-07-2012 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by bigrun (Post 881172)
VP for Gen. Petraeus would be a waste...Romney should be his running mate..Make the switch now and i might switch sides...:tro:

well you could vote for Mitt and hope gabriel blows his trumpet for Mitt to come home. ;)

I have no such choice as Biden would be worse than Obama IMO

Geezus Tapdancing Christ this man Biden gave less than 100 bucks to charity over a year he made a quarter million. Yet in his mind the poor/sick need more. Just not from his wallet. Can you say hypocrite?

dellinger63 08-07-2012 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 881175)
Just what we need someone that will support us leaking BILLIONS of dollars a day in unwinnable wars..

You're right let's re-elect a man purported to be one of the brightest Presidents in history yet won't release his college transcripts. A man who is constantly evolving going from a racist pastor to a gay bashing pastor to his current pro-gay, Marxist pastor. Kind of similar to watching the ball in a Olympic Ping-Pong match.

jms62 08-07-2012 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63 (Post 881180)
You're right let's re-elect a man purported to be one of the brightest Presidents in history yet won't release his college transcripts. A man who is constantly evolving going from a racist pastor to a gay bashing pastor to his current pro-gay, Marxist pastor. Kind of similar to watching the ball in a Olympic Ping-Pong match.

Or we can elect someone that won't release their tax returns becuase they are obviously hiding something while you and I pay our 28-30% a year. Let's vote him in becuase he will surely watch out for us middle class peons.

bigrun 08-07-2012 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 881175)
Just what we need someone that will support us leaking BILLIONS of dollars a day in unwinnable wars..

Moveon.org labeled him General Betray Us for as they said "cooking the books for the White House"..they removed all reference at their site after his apmt to Commander in Afgan..

my miss storm cat 08-07-2012 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by bigrun (Post 881147)
My guess is Rubio for obvious reasons...and the rest of the field is weak.

I just don't think Romney picks someone who overshadows him like that.

I think this could happen with Jindal too which leaves Pawlenty. That's who my money is on.

Mitt will pick someone on the bland side. Just sayin.

bigrun 08-07-2012 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 881181)
Or we can elect someone that won't release their tax returns becuase they are obviously hiding something while you and I pay our 28-30% a year. Let's vote him in becuase he will surely watch out for us middle class peons.

:tro::tro: ..I'll vote for that - i might hit the lottery some day and join the 1 % club..:)

jms62 08-07-2012 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by bigrun (Post 881186)
:tro::tro: ..I'll vote for that - i might hit the lottery some day and join the 1 % club..:)

Or become a CEO making 50 million a year.. Both are as likely for 99.99 pct of us.

bigrun 08-07-2012 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by my miss storm cat (Post 881184)
I just don't think Romney picks someone who overshadows him like that.

I think this could happen with Jindal too which leaves Pawlenty. That's who my money is on.

Mitt will pick someone on the bland side. Just sayin.

Makes sense but Rubio brings some latino votes to the table..and Jindal not a good speaker imo...Pawlenty is plain vanilla like Mittster, maybe too much so...like i said change the ex to Rubio/Romney and cash a ticket..:)

Riot 08-07-2012 04:24 PM

It's Portman. Will be revealed after Olympics are over (next week).



Speakers at the Republican Convention in Tampa are the Democratic Parties dream lineup:

Note: Keynotes not yet announced.

Florida Gov. Rick Scott - the hosting state's Governor, not invited to speak yet ???

Tea Party Ayn Rand Loonie Rand Paul - yes (he's running for pres 2016)
Conservative Theocratic Dominatrix Rick Santorum - yes

Other speakers:
South Carolina Gov. Nikki Haley
New Mexico Gov. Susana Martinez
Former Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice
Sen. John McCain of Arizona
Former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee.
Ohio Gov. John Kasich

dellinger63 08-07-2012 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 881187)
Or become a CEO making 50 million a year.. Both are as likely for 99.99 pct of us.

Or come to this country with $30 bucks and a willingness to work whatever hours and jobs it takes. Over the course of the last few years I've come in contact with almost a hundred if not more individuals who are making a million plus easy a year starting out broke.

And for all that hard work the people who slacked want a piece. Welcome to Socialist America.

jms62 08-07-2012 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63 (Post 881228)
Or come to this country with $30 bucks and a willingness to work whatever hours and jobs it takes. Over the course of the last few years I've come in contact with almost a hundred if not more individuals who are making a million plus easy a year starting out broke.

And for all that hard work the people who slacked want a piece. Welcome to Socialist America.

:rolleyes:

dellinger63 08-07-2012 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 881230)
:rolleyes:

Sad you've given up on the American dream but believe me it exists, has for a long long time and is now in danger.

And believe it or not, most if not all CEO's have worked MANY 80hr weeks in their lifetimes.

Too bad the head of the Oak Creek Sikh Temple isn't here anymore, but you'll probably get this man's money in probate court.

bigrun 08-07-2012 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 881224)
It's Portman. Will be revealed after Olympics are over (next week).



Speakers at the Republican Convention in Tampa are the Democratic Parties dream lineup:

Note: Keynotes not yet announced.

Florida Gov. Rick Scott - the hosting state's Governor, not invited to speak yet ???

Tea Party Ayn Rand Loonie Rand Paul - yes (he's running for pres 2016)
Conservative Theocratic Dominatrix Rick Santorum - yes

Other speakers:
South Carolina Gov. Nikki Haley
New Mexico Gov. Susana Martinez
Former Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice
Sen. John McCain of Arizona
Former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee.
Ohio Gov. John Kasich


She's my 2nd choice...

Ocala Mike 08-07-2012 09:18 PM

Romney's VP choice
 
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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 881224)

Florida Gov. Rick Scott - the hosting state's Governor, not invited to speak yet ???


I have heard him speak often and, forgetting his politics, he is just plain AWFUL. He stumbles, stutters, pauses, and garbles his words so badly that he is difficult to understand. Besides that, he has no sense of the cadence of his speech at all. Needs to see that speech instructor in "The King's Speech."

Riot 08-07-2012 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Ocala Mike (Post 881291)
I have heard him speak often and, forgetting his politics, he is just plain AWFUL. He stumbles, stutters, pauses, and garbles his words so badly that he is difficult to understand. Besides that, he has no sense of the cadence of his speech at all. Needs to see that speech instructor in "The King's Speech."

He's pretty toxic in popularity right now for the party, are they going to do a Bush/Cheney and keep him from appearing at the convention in Tampa? You hear anything?

Your description could describe why he's not speaking, but they could still give him an early, daytime slot that won't get much coverage, if he's that bad.

bigrun 08-07-2012 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Ocala Mike (Post 881291)
I have heard him speak often and, forgetting his politics, he is just plain AWFUL. He stumbles, stutters, pauses, and garbles his words so badly that he is difficult to understand. Besides that, he has no sense of the cadence of his speech at all. Needs to see that speech instructor in "The King's Speech."


You just described ole G Dumya Bush and he was ELECTED president:confused:...so that makes Scott a lock for VP..:eek:

Ocala Mike 08-07-2012 09:45 PM

Romney's VP choice
 
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Originally Posted by bigrun (Post 881298)

so that makes Scott a lock for VP..:eek:

No chance; he's riding a trough of unpopularity right now and looks like a one-termer. Lots of voter's remorse among his backers down here. There's talk about old Charlie Crist running as a Dem next go-around.

Riot 08-07-2012 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Ocala Mike (Post 881303)
No chance; he's riding a trough of unpopularity right now and looks like a one-termer. Lots of voter's remorse among his backers down here. There's talk about old Charlie Crist running as a Dem next go-around.

Gosh, I don't understand - a state full of Medicare and Social Security recipients electing the CEO responsible for the largest Medicare fraud in history? Who wants to remove all government assistance from citizens? What could go wrong?

I believe that about Crist! :D Good tip.

Thepaindispenser 08-08-2012 10:30 AM

Whoever Romney chooses, we can be guaranteed of one thing, that this person will be a lot more intelligent than then the beyond stupid Joe Biden. Biden is the Ed McMahon of politics, nobody has ever risen so high in politics with so little talent and intelligence. The only thing scarier than an Obama presidency is a Biden one.

Danzig 08-08-2012 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Thepaindispenser (Post 881380)
Whoever Romney chooses, we can be guaranteed of one thing, that this person will be a lot more intelligent than then the beyond stupid Joe Biden. Biden is the Ed McMahon of politics, nobody has ever risen so high in politics with so little talent and intelligence. The only thing scarier than an Obama presidency is a Biden one.

you sure about that? i can think of several that have risen even a bit higher.

Riot 08-08-2012 11:04 AM

Ladbrokes:

Election winner - Will be settled on election winner, not on inauguration

Barack Obama 2/5
Mitt Romney 15/8
Ron Paul 66/1

Republican Vice Presidential Nominee - Will be settled on nominee at 2012 Republican National Convention. Others on request.

Rob Portman 2/1
Tim Pawlenty 2/1
Paul Ryan 6/1
Marco Rubio 8/1
Condoleeza Rice 8/1
Bobby Jindal 10/1
Bob McDonnell 12/1
Chris Christie 14/1
Jon Thune 14/1
Kelly Ayote 20/1
Mitch Daniels 33/1
Nikki Haley 33/1
Susana Martinez 33/1
David Petraeus 33/1
Mike Huckabee 50/1
Brian Sandoval 50/1
Jim DeMint 50/1
Lindsey Graham 50/1
Rand Paul 50/1
Scott Walker 50/1
Rick Santorum 50/1
Jeb Bush 50/1
Pat Toomey 50/1
Cathy McMorris Rodgers 50/1
John Hoeven 50/1
Jon Kyl 50/1
Mary Fallin 50/1
Rick Snyder 66/1
Hayley Barbour 66/1
Allen West 66/1
Meg Whitman 66/1
Kay Bailey Hutchison 66/1
Olympia Snowe 66/1
Luis Fortuño 66/1
Fred Smith 66/1
Jan Brewer 66/1
Mitt Romney 100/1
Rick Perry 100/1
Sarah Palin 100/1
Michele Bachmann 100/1
Ron Paul 100/1
John McCain 100/1
Herman Cain 100/1
Donald Trump 100/1
Colin Powell 100/1
Newt Gingrich 100/1
Jon Huntsman 100/1
Scott Brown 100/1
Glenn Beck 200/1
Tim Tebow 200/1

bigrun 08-08-2012 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 881392)
Ladbrokes:


Glenn Beck 200/1
Tim Tebow 200/1

I like these two, leaning towards Beck...and you missed an obvious one.

Darth Vader 5/2 and if he's on the search committee, drops to even money..:D

bigrun 08-08-2012 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Thepaindispenser (Post 881380)
Whoever Romney chooses, we can be guaranteed of one thing, that this person will be a lot more intelligent than then the beyond stupid Joe Biden. Biden is the Ed McMahon of politics, nobody has ever risen so high in politics with so little talent and intelligence. The only thing scarier than an Obama presidency is a Biden one.

That is just tooooooo easy...Allow me to present G Dumya Bush..




Riot 08-08-2012 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by bigrun (Post 881409)
I like these two, leaning towards Beck...and you missed an obvious one.

Darth Vader 5/2 and if he's on the search committee, drops to even money..:D

I laughed ;)

Actually, Darth is looking pretty good with his taxpayer-funded new heart - sounds better, far healthier, more active.

Too bad every American doesn't get that same type of government-provided health care Darth received.

I was unhappy to see Tebow was rated with Glenn Beck :mad:

pointman 08-08-2012 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by bigrun (Post 881415)
That is just tooooooo easy...Allow me to present G Dumya Bush..




Always the fallback, call Bush an idiot. Sarah Palin is more intelligent than Joe Biden which does not say much for Biden.

Danzig 08-08-2012 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by pointman (Post 881429)
Always the fallback, call Bush an idiot. Sarah Palin is more intelligent than Joe Biden which does not say much for Biden.

i cringe every time i see 'sarah palin' and 'intelligent' in the same post. as for brains, i have to say my first thought for an unintelligent person who wasn't ready for the job, but became vp and then president was chester a arthur.

pointman 08-08-2012 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 881418)
I laughed ;)

Actually, Darth is looking pretty good with his taxpayer-funded new heart - sounds better, far healthier, more active.

Too bad every American doesn't get that same type of government-provided health care Darth received.

I was unhappy to see Tebow was rated with Glenn Beck :mad:

I am always amazed at how the left claims those whose don't support their position do nothing but demean and attack. Yet, I hear no one on opposed to the left calling a man who faithfully served his country Darth Vader. It is time to get out of the past and start concentrating how we fix the mess that Obama has created in just under four years.

pointman 08-08-2012 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 881432)
i cringe every time i see 'sarah palin' and 'intelligent' in the same post. as for brains, i have to say my first thought for an unintelligent person who wasn't ready for the job, but became vp and then president was chester a arthur.

My first thought is Barak Obama. The scary thing is Biden scares me a thousand times more than Obama.

Danzig 08-08-2012 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by pointman (Post 881437)
My first thought is Barak Obama. The scary thing is Biden scares me a thousand times more than Obama.

yeah, i don't think obama was ready, and i still think he's not doing a good job. but i think bush deserves all the criticism he gets as well.

pointman 08-08-2012 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 881443)
yeah, i don't think obama was ready, and i still think he's not doing a good job. but i think bush deserves all the criticism he gets as well.

People can criticize Bush all they want, but we are where we are today and what happened under Bush is no longer relevant to the discussion as to where we are going and how we are going to get there.

The left wants to deflect the fact that they cannot push Obama's accomplishments and that he is in over his head as President, so they just bash anything they can on the republican side. That is why we see the queen consistently attempt to bash Romney on a daily basis. That is an agenda that I just cannot support, I want this country to go forward, not backwards where Obama has taken us.

Danzig 08-08-2012 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by pointman (Post 881448)
People can criticize Bush all they want, but we are where we are today and what happened under Bush is no longer relevant to the discussion as to where we are going and how we are going to get there.

The left wants to deflect the fact that they cannot push Obama's accomplishments and that he is in over his head as President, so they just bash anything they can on the republican side. That is why we see the queen consistently attempt to bash Romney on a daily basis. That is an agenda that I just cannot support, I want this country to go forward, not backwards where Obama has taken us.

i agree that there is always a move to blame bush for everything. but both parties engage in trying to bad mouth the other guy, so as to boost themselves in turn. romney does deserve some of the criticisms aimed at him; so does obama for that matter.

bigrun 08-08-2012 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by pointman (Post 881435)
I am always amazed at how the left claims those whose don't support their position do nothing but demean and attack. Yet, I hear no one on opposed to the left calling a man who faithfully served his country Darth Vader. It is time to get out of the past and start concentrating how we fix the mess that Obama has created in just under four years.


Oh really, how was that...as a five time draft dodger or as the instigator of a war with a sovereign nation...select one...

pointman 08-08-2012 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by bigrun (Post 881466)
Oh really, how was that...as a five time draft dodger or as the instigator of a war with a sovereign nation...select one...

Bill Clinton was a draft dodger, would you say he didn't faithfully serve his country? I am still waiting for your proof that Bush, Cheney, or any republican for that matter had any different proof than Congress did when Congress, including democrats, voted for the war against Iraq.

I guess you also forget that Hussein repeatedly violated U.N. Sanctions prior to the war, was repeatedly warned of the consequences of doing so, and unlike our present leader, our country took action to ensure such actions had consequences and did so with the support of many other free nations.

Clearly, politics are not your forte.

geeker2 08-08-2012 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by pointman (Post 881498)
Bill Clinton was a draft dodger, would you say he didn't faithfully serve his country? I am still waiting for your proof that Bush, Cheney, or any republican for that matter had any different proof than Congress did when Congress, including democrats, voted for the war against Iraq.

I guess you also forget that Hussein repeatedly violated U.N. Sanctions prior to the war, was repeatedly warned of the consequences of doing so, and unlike our present leader, our country took action to ensure such actions had consequences and did so with the support of many other free nations.

Clearly, politics are not your forte.


pie charts and cartoons - can't wait

Danzig 08-08-2012 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by pointman (Post 881498)
Bill Clinton was a draft dodger, would you say he didn't faithfully serve his country? I am still waiting for your proof that Bush, Cheney, or any republican for that matter had any different proof than Congress did when Congress, including democrats, voted for the war against Iraq.

I guess you also forget that Hussein repeatedly violated U.N. Sanctions prior to the war, was repeatedly warned of the consequences of doing so, and unlike our present leader, our country took action to ensure such actions had consequences and did so with the support of many other free nations.

Clearly, politics are not your forte.

until hearings are held and proof presented-the claim of lies to congress are completely unfounded and bogus excuses from people who voted for war. don't hold your breath waiting for the liars to be held accountable.
the real liars are on a five week recess pandering for votes.

Thepaindispenser 08-08-2012 02:52 PM

Obama couldn't survive a tour with Air Supply and he started an illegal war with Libya and continually kills innocent people with drone attacks inside Pakistan yet you never here a peep from the sheep on the left. Apparently warmongering and murder is ok as long as it is being done by a Democrat.

Joe Biden told at least 13 documented lies and Sarah Palin still kicked his stupid ass in their debate.

Joe Biden finished in the bottom 10% of his class for both his undergrad studies at the University of Delaware and law school at Syracuse University not exactly academic powerhouses.

Say what you want about Bush but at least he had the guts to show his college transcripts unlike the lying, fraud weasel Obama. By the way Bush's grades were better than that elitist idiot John Kerry.


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