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Kasept 08-02-2012 08:49 PM

8/5 (SAR): Alfred G. Vanderbilt H. (G1)
 
10th (5:56) Alfred G. Vanderbilt H. (G1)

6 Furlongs | Open | 3 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $400,000

1 Shackleford Velazquez J R 121 L
2 Emcee Garcia Alan 115 L
3 Justin Phillip Dominguez R A 115 L
4 Rothko Leparoux J R 116 L
5 Poseidon's Warrior Flores J 114 L
6 Sloane Ranger Lezcano J 115 L
7 Jersey Town Prado E S 116 L
8 Hamazing Destiny Rosario J 116 L

booner 08-03-2012 06:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kasept (Post 880008)
1 Shackleford Velazquez J R 121 L

What happened to Castanon? I didn't hear of any issues between him, Romans or the connections.

Gate Dancer 08-03-2012 09:59 AM

The last Lucas horse I bet on was Flying Private quite a while ago............I'm due to try him again and Hamazing Destiny might be the play. :eek:

robfla 08-03-2012 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by booner (Post 880032)
What happened to Castanon? I didn't hear of any issues between him, Romans or the connections.

He was replaced prior to the Met Mile 5/28

Kasept 08-03-2012 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by booner (Post 880032)
What happened to Castanon? I didn't hear of any issues between him, Romans or the connections.

Quote:

Originally Posted by robfla (Post 880085)
He was replaced prior to the Met Mile 5/28

Wasn't replaced. Broke his wrist.

Revidere 08-03-2012 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Kasept (Post 880095)
Wasn't replaced. Broke his wrist.

Jesus is actually riding at Ellis Park today so he appears to be recovered.
Angel probably committed Johnny V. to Shackleford for the remainder of the year?

cakes44 08-03-2012 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gate Dancer (Post 880067)
The last Lucas horse I bet on was Flying Private quite a while ago............I'm due to try him again and Hamazing Destiny might be the play. :eek:

DWL OWNS 'Toga!

Drugs, I think it's Formulator time.



Edit: I hunted it down myself.

DWL at Toga the last 3 Summers:

118- 6-6-9

including 0-13 this year with 0 ITM.

Gate Dancer 08-03-2012 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cakes44 (Post 880145)
DWL OWNS 'Toga!

Drugs, I think it's Formulator time.



Edit: I hunted it down myself.

DWL at Toga the last 3 Summers:

118- 6-6-9

including 0-13 this year with 0 ITM.

I didn't say it was necessarily a good bet...............:rolleyes:

cakes44 08-03-2012 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gate Dancer (Post 880192)
I didn't say it was necessarily a good bet...............:rolleyes:

I know. I kid, I kid.

I just can't pass up a good DWL jab.

booner 08-03-2012 07:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by robfla (Post 880085)
He was replaced prior to the Met Mile 5/28

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kasept (Post 880095)
Wasn't replaced. Broke his wrist.

Ahh, I remember that now....thanks for the help guys.

RockHardTen1985 08-03-2012 11:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kasept (Post 880008)
10th (5:56) Alfred G. Vanderbilt H. (G1)

6 Furlongs | Open | 3 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $400,000

1 Shackleford Velazquez J R 121 L
2 Emcee Garcia Alan 115 L
3 Justin Phillip Dominguez R A 115 L
4 Rothko Leparoux J R 116 L
5 Poseidon's Warrior Flores J 114 L
6 Sloane Ranger Lezcano J 115 L
7 Jersey Town Prado E S 116 L
8 Hamazing Destiny Rosario J 116 L

Really like Emcee in here. Cant see anyone but the 1,2 winning this race.

Gate Dancer 08-04-2012 07:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cakes44 (Post 880249)
I know. I kid, I kid.

I just can't pass up a good DWL jab.

Can't blame you for that..............:D

my miss storm cat 08-04-2012 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 880282)
Really like Emcee in here. Cant see anyone but the 1,2 winning this race.

Not seeing that at all (Emcee) but what do I know.

I really like Rothko here. :$:

That's the official warning for you all to avoid him at all costs.

Danzig 08-04-2012 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 880282)
Really like Emcee in here. Cant see anyone but the 1,2 winning this race.

why?

seems to me, if he breaks well, he won't be left alone on the lead-sloane ranger is probably going straight for the front as well. and if he doesn't break well...he's shown what happens in that scenario.

RockHardTen1985 08-04-2012 07:19 PM

I think your being a bit hard on him. It is only his 5th or 6th career start. No one can deny that Grade 3,three back was a Grade 1. He faced some of the best sprinter/milers and ran very well. Again he was thrown to the absolute best 2 back and had a bit of a trip. Then last time he rates kindly and gets the confidence booster plus more racing experience. I may be a sucker for the upside, we shall see. Good luck

Dahoss 08-04-2012 11:55 PM

Royal Carrier is a more likely pacesetter than Sloane Ranger IMO. Will be interesting to see what Velazquez does on Shackleford.

I think tomorrow is Emcee's coming out party as the best sprinter on the east coast. He has a legit excuse in the Carter, when he missed the break by at least 3-4 lengths, then rushed up. He tired, as expected. His last was strong and he really exploded the last 1/8 when Garcia asked him for run. Obviously the time off is a concern, but he's the real deal IMO.

ateamstupid 08-05-2012 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 880500)
I think tomorrow is Emcee's coming out party as the best sprinter on the east coast. He has a legit excuse in the Carter, when he missed the break by at least 3-4 lengths, then rushed up. He tired, as expected. His last was strong and he really exploded the last 1/8 when Garcia asked him for run. Obviously the time off is a concern, but he's the real deal IMO.

I think this is right. I also can say with 100% certainty that Sloane Ranger is not making the lead in this race.

Arletta 08-05-2012 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by my miss storm cat (Post 880394)
Not seeing that at all (Emcee) but what do I know.

I really like Rothko here. :$:

That's the official warning for you all to avoid him at all costs.

My selection as well :)

Danzig 08-05-2012 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid (Post 880501)
I think this is right. I also can say with 100% certainty that Sloane Ranger is not making the lead in this race.

i think he'll go for it-whether he gets it is another story. at any rate, i think the front end may be crowded.

ateamstupid 08-05-2012 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 880515)
i think he'll go for it-whether he gets it is another story. at any rate, i think the front end may be crowded.

I don't see why that affects Emcee. He's proven himself rating.

NTamm1215 08-05-2012 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid (Post 880529)
I don't see why that affects Emcee. He's proven himself rating.

Exactly. If Emcee is going to lose this race, it's likely not going to be because he was unable to get the lead.

One of my concerns with Emcee is that he's obviously fragile, and the thought that he was given a freshening is idiotic, because he had works between his last race and now then was stopped on. Thus, you have two favorites who admittedly did not bounce out of their last races well.

Lost amid the Belmont day races was the quality of the race Justin Phillip ran in the True North. The Monmouth race he came back in is a throwout in my opinion, and his 3rd place finish in the King's Bishop over this track was very strong. He's the other horse to me in a race with only 3 potential win candidates.

Danzig 08-05-2012 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NTamm1215 (Post 880536)
Exactly. If Emcee is going to lose this race, it's likely not going to be because he was unable to get the lead.

One of my concerns with Emcee is that he's obviously fragile, and the thought that he was given a freshening is idiotic, because he had works between his last race and now then was stopped on. Thus, you have two favorites who admittedly did not bounce out of their last races well.

Lost amid the Belmont day races was the quality of the race Justin Phillip ran in the True North. The Monmouth race he came back in is a throwout in my opinion, and his 3rd place finish in the King's Bishop over this track was very strong. He's the other horse to me in a race with only 3 potential win candidates.

justin philip is the one i like here-for attempting to top shackleford that is.

Danzig 08-05-2012 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ateamstupid (Post 880529)
I don't see why that affects Emcee. He's proven himself rating.

i guess i'm reading too much into his previous race where he didn't break well.

ateamstupid 08-05-2012 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 880541)
i guess i'm reading too much into his previous race where he didn't break well.

Considering he spotted a field full of Grade 1 winners 5 lengths at the start and was 4-wide on the turn, I don't think that was a terrible effort.

Dahoss 08-05-2012 05:09 PM

Hopefully by the Breeders Cup Kiaran will take that human anchor Garcia off and put Dominguez on Emcee. He ran too good to lose.

my miss storm cat 08-05-2012 05:09 PM

Congrats to anyone who had the winner.

The only thing I can say for my picks today is that they've been pretty consistent. :rolleyes: :wf

ateamstupid 08-05-2012 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 880733)
Hopefully by the Breeders Cup Kiaran will take that human anchor Garcia off and put Dominguez on Emcee. He ran too good to lose.

He truly sucks. He'll be at Penn National once the McLaughlin gravy train dries up completely.

RockHardTen1985 08-05-2012 11:56 PM

He ran great today....
Hate to admit it, but Garcia is not the anchor. Its me. I'm as cold as I have ever been. You guys are all right, mush.

handicapperernie 08-07-2012 11:58 AM

Forego Could Be Next for Poseidon's Warrior. What an upset winner!!

IMO, Shackelford broke slowly and it took his a-game out big time. not johnny v's fault. i was more disappointed at joel rosario in the way he rode hamazing destiny. should've stuck on the outside and not change positions in the stretch maybe it would've hit the top 3 or better yet win the race.


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