REPORT: Fox News Spends Two-Plus Hours Distorting Obama's Small Business Comments
 

What else is new? Details here:

http://mediamatters.org/blog/2012/07...stortin/187202

Wow really???

REPORT: Far lefty libtards don't like what far right conservatards have to say! Breaking NEWS!!

lol...

What about the small businesses forced to close early last Friday here in Roanoke for Obama's visit? Ya know, many of the same businesses that lost even more money a couple weeks earlier because of the massive power outage that swept the area? Why was it so necessary to have his speech at the old Firehouse #1 in the middle of Downtown, as opposed to having it at the Civic Center 1 mile down the road, where no businesses would have been forced to close?

THE PRIVATE SECTOR IS DOING GREAT!!!

GTFOH with that hypocritical bullsh*t.

I'd guess you fully support the Texas Republican Party's 2012 platform regarding education.

Let's see ...
Ranting off about something completely unassociated with subject of thread...
Attack Obama ...
Misquote Obama ...
Insult poster of thread ...

Hey, thanks for playing! :tro: If you ever want to discuss, you know, the subject of the thread, come on back anytime.

Otherwise, we'll just always wonder in what weird, warped mindset you can call me a hypocrite (the idea is hypocritical) for posting about a media lie, because you don't like the President appearing downtown in Roanoke?

Media lie ... anger over a presidential appearance. Sure, those two things are totally associated! It's hypocritical bullshi.at. to mention a media lie, when you're personally angry over the President of the United States appearing in your town! I should have seen that! I should have known you are personally pissed at Obama, and not dared to mention a media lie about something else entirely! Of course! Bizzaro world.

Which part of

“If you’ve got a business -- you didn’t build that. Somebody else made that happen.”

did you not understand?

Direct quote, not paraphrasing. Obama stepped in it this time. This might have been a Howard Dean scream moment for him.

:tro: He's for small business :rolleyes:

guess what?

Media Matters' founder heads a super Pac that works with president's super PAC.

http://video.foxnews.com/v/174094612...tcmp=obnetwork

We??

FYI: It's not ALL about you, Beth. The "GTFOH with that hypocritical bullsh*t" comment was directed at Obama, not you.

“If you’ve got a business, you didn’t build that. Somebody else made that happen,” he declared outside Roanoke Fire Station No. 1 to applause from a faithful crowd.

“If you’ve been successful, you didn’t get there on your own. You didn’t get there on your own. I’m always struck by people who think, well, it must be because I was just so smart. There are a lot of smart people out there.”

Words that were spoken.
If you want to say you wouldn't have a business if it weren't for roads or the internet, then that is what you should say. The thought that roads would exist without the business that actually pay for them in ridiculous. Industry drives government, not the other way around.
Taken out of context is the big argument, then keep things in context and you won't look like a douche to the hundreds of thousands of people that DO make it happen on their own.

Perhaps someone that has never really had to work in order to earn should keep his comments about those of us that do to himself.

:tro:

great post... the only exception I take is with the last sentence.. I would imagine being the President of the USA is one of the most stressful, time consuming, hard working job that anyone can have.

I have no doubt about that, but it isn't meant to be done to earn a living.

very true.. at least it was not supposed to be done to make a living.. but all you see is career politicians these days who make quite a good living by screwing the American citizens.

LOL - Taken totally out of context deliberately, and you've fallen for it. Please - don't be so gullible to feed your Obama Hate. I know the GOP only has fear and anger this year. Don't help them too readily.

As I said in the thread start:
Here's the entire quote - tell me what part you don't understand.

So what we really had was the President applauding the greatness of the United States, and how it's enabled individual success.

As I said in my reply. This thread is about Faux News and their continued lying. Not about Obama. If you just want to go off on a, "I hate Obama and his appearance in Roanoke" rant, do it elsewhere?

Sounds good. I accept your apology.

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It was in context. That's kinda the whole point.

The statement that the mixed-race son of a poor single mother, left with his grandparents, who worked and got into Columbia, then Harvard, became and worked as a lawyer, then got involved in state politics, then was elected Senator, then President of the United States, "never really had to work" is beyond absurd and laughable.

It was in context. That's kinda the whole point.



The statement that the mixed-race son of a poor single mother, left with his grandparents, who worked and got into Columbia, then Harvard, became and worked as a lawyer, then got involved in state politics, then was elected Senator, then President of the United States, "never really had to work" is beyond absurd and laughable.[/quote]

Do you have a private sector employment history that shows if the President didn't make any money for his company that week he didn't get paid.

Don't take things out of context, I said work to EARN. It takes work to go to school and write books but neither of those is like making payroll for 22 people when your company didn't have a good month or quarter.
Supplying the entire quote for the 2-3 people that haven't heard it in its entirety will soften the blow but it still shows that this President is clueless when it comes to understanding common business and economics.

What is your point? That it's only valid "work" if you have a business of a certain size with a certain number of employees? That's absurd. The President has worked to earn to support himself, and later himself and his family. Like nearly every other American. Employees "work", and self-employed accounts, doctors, auto mechanics, etc. "work" even if they don't have a business and have to make any payroll other than themselves. Obama has done that.

If you want to look at someone who was gifted, geeshus, look at Romney. He never started from scratch. The toughest period in his life, according to his wife, was when they were "poor" in school, and they had to live off stock income! He never made any product. But he still "worked" in my view.

Yeah, but that was all accomplished via Affirmative Action...:)

Apparently being poor, growing up in a single-family home with no father, being left by your mother to grow up with your grandparents, have to work to get into college, work to get into law school, work to become president of Harvard Law Review, work to earn money to buy a house and raise a family, doesn't count if you're Barack Obama.

I am sick of the haters and Faux News outright lying about this President, what he says, what he does. No president in my lifetime has been disrespected, lied about and hated like this, and that includes Bush the Younger. You can go back and see how Abraham Lincoln was treated like this - which provides an interesting context for Obama's treatment.

And any American citizen who cares about this country ought to be sick of the lies, too. Judge them all on the truth, on what they actually do, actually say. Not manufactured, made-up birther conspiracy nonsense bull.sh.i.a.t.

Work history for the President in the private sector would definitely prove your point?

Never said anything about Romney as I do not care much for him either, he is a silver spooner. This is about the President not understanding reality and what people (real people not "public servants" or academia) need to do to survive and what really drives the economy of the country.

This president appears to understand what drives this economy perfectly - he's created hundreds of thousands of jobs over the past three years, the GDP has risen, he's sanctioned against trade/China, he's supported our infrastucture support development, he's embraced new business technology, this president defends the poor and middle class, he understands exactly what they need when they are struggling, and he tries to work for them, outstandingly - and done it against historically complete obstruction and opposition by the opposing political party. All that "community organizer" attack crap? All that experience was working with the poor, helping them. And this president is hardly "liberal", let alone "socialist", in his financial/business approach.

Saying this president - love him or hate him - doesn't understand what "real people" need to do to survive is simply absurd and doesn't stand up to the reality.

Don't stop believing.
This is a one of a kind statement and there is no logical person out there that would confirm what you have written.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtNHuqHWefU

Fox News #1 Baby !!!!!:tro::tro::tro:


http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/201...7-2012/141925/

Really? We don't need "belief", nor do we need "logical people" to "confirm" anything. We just need the facts to confirm. So here's what I said, below. You are free to disprove it with facts that show otherwise:

1) Obama administration has created hundreds of thousands of jobs over the past three years

2) the GDP has risen

3) Obama administration has sanctioned against trade/China

4) Obama adminstration has supported our infrastucture support development

5) Obama administration has embraced new business technology

Saying this president - love him or hate him - doesn't understand what "real people" need to do to survive is simply absurd and doesn't stand up to the reality.

Mitt Romney will say anything. It turns out, he'll even say Obama's words when quoting him.

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/...ma_648762.html

Everyone is always required to disprove your theories, you never show anything to prove your statements are in fact true.
Why are the jobs numbers so miserable if the President is creating jobs?
Why are all the new business technologies failing miserably despite the hundreds of millions of dollars being thrown their way?
If the GDP is going so well why is unemployment so high?
What specifically has been changed in our infrastructure?
Are there any measurable benefits that you can quantify from the trade sanctions against China (makers of our Olympic uniforms, BTW)?

Please defend your position with facts and numbers.

I have posted factual support for 100% of those claims on this board several times previously over the past year, and you know it. You are free to disprove them. Go ahead, or be quiet. YOU say they are not true - go ahead. Put your money where your mouth is. You always come on saying "that's not true", and you never put up. So put up now.

What I would really like to know is who he is pandering to with a statement like that? The people that work on road crews?
The whole tone (context be damned) of the speech just doesn't make any sense at all.

1) "Obama administration has created hundreds of thousands of jobs over the past three years" - proof here:



2) "the GDP has risen" - proof here:



3) "Obama administration has sanctioned against trade/China" - proof here:

US hails WTO (trade sanctions) win vs. China on electronic payments
http://news.yahoo.com/us-wins-wto-ba...170745530.html

China Is Secondary Target of Sanctions on Iran
Other importers of Iranian oil have been granted exemptions, but Washington has refused to grant them to China

Etc ... multiple, just search on USA-China trade sanctions

4) Obama adminstration has supported our infrastucture support development - proof here

Obama infrastructure bank
Obama infrastructure support bill
Obama stimulus infrastructure support American Recovery Reinvestment Act

5) Obama administration has embraced new business technology - proof here

Medical innovation, technology innovation, ARRA
"Obama administration launches $26 million multi-agency competition to strengthen advanced manufacturing clusters across the nation - 14 federal agencies collaborate to enhance global competitiveness of US manufacturers and create jobs" http://www.dol.gov/opa/media/press/eta/ETA20121082.htm

Clip Clop wrote, about the above: "Don't stop believing. This is a one of a kind statement and there is no logical person out there that would confirm what you have written." It's confirmed. Hell, it's been all over the news for the past three years. Being a rational person, influenced by fact and truth, I'm sure you now acknowledge it's true. Thanks.

3) Obama administration has sanctioned against trade/China

Just address this one. Humor me. Is this about rare earth material?
One benefit that has happened as a result.

Complaining the the WTO doesn't actually produce anything.

You should read a newspaper now and then. You are apparently completely ignorant of what this president does for business. As a small-business owner, I'd think you'd pay attention to things that directly influence you.

Opinions.

Looking for measurable results from the private sector. Those graphs are priceless by the way.

Facts. You hate 'em :tro: Again:you are really good at calling things false and untrue, but you never, ever support your claims. Go ahead. We're waiting.

Like all the roads he built for me, or that the government created the internet? He is truly the small business owners President. Praise Obama.

APRAnet was the beginning of the internet, not government tech (thought the military was watching) between Stanford and UCLA scientists.

Just admit that you refuse to acknowledge factual truths about what this president has done for this country. You refused to support your allegations about the veracity of my statements, yet you demanded I prove my statements.

I did. At least have the morals and ethics to acknowlege you were wrong, and yes, I proved my statements true. You are free to dislike this president, but you are not free to dissemble about his factual accomplishments and pretend they don't exist, when they do.

It is pointless.
I hate DC, every one of them should go.
You are a true believer and it is like arguing religion with you. You read it somewhere so it is fact because you want to believe it is fact.

LOL. No, facts are provable, rational, measurable truth, that has nothing to do with one's political views.

As I said, you are free to dislike this president, but your repeated, ridiculous denial of things that have actually happened is ... scary.