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my miss storm cat 06-12-2012 04:03 PM

Royal Ascot chit chat thread
 
Ms. Caviar today at Newmarket...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3EbBaR8G8A

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HK runner Joy and Fun recovering from a bruised heel...

"He is a trojan - with all the major injuries he has had - a fractured wither, shoulder problems, a broken cannon bone, what else can you throw at him? He is a war horse," said Cruz.

my miss storm cat 06-13-2012 10:20 AM

Stephanie's Kitten out...

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On the brave ones who are possible to face off with Frankel...

http://www.racingpost.com/news/live.sd

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On Planteur, just because he never gets much press...:)

http://icard.888sport.com/news/17153...big-assignment

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... and on Ortensia from tomorrows Herald Sun (again, just because)...

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/su...-1226394795340

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The official site...

http://www.ascot.co.uk/?page=royal_ascot

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Full records / replays for the 2 HK runners...

Little Bridge (9-2-1- of 19)

http://www.hkjc.com/english/racing/h...=L285&search=1

... and the grand old and well-travelled vet, Joy and Fun...

http://www.hkjc.com/english/racing/h...&Option=1#htop

SundayStar 06-13-2012 10:46 AM

looking forward to it. and they have the beast in the first race!

my miss storm cat 06-17-2012 02:07 PM

Absolutely, SS!

As far as betting races I cannot wait for this one!

Betting Forecast / King's Stand:

9/2 Ortensia, 5/1 Bated Breath, 5/1 Wizz Kid, 7/1 Sole Power, 8/1 Little Bridge, 12/1 Joy And Fun, 12/1 Prohibit, 16/1 Margot Did, 20/1 Amour Propre, 20/1 Tangerine Trees, 25/1 Masamah, 25/1 Spirit Quartz, 25/1 Stone Of Folca, 33/1 Dinkum Diamond, 33/1 Hamish McGonagall, 33/1 Medicean Man, 33/1 Monsieur Joe, 33/1 Secret Asset, 33/1 Night Carnation, 33/1 Bapak Chinta, 33/1 Stepper Point, 33/1 Caledonia Lady, 33/1 Ponty Acclaim

SundayStar 06-17-2012 02:27 PM

so i've heard that they have had a lot of rain and are expecting a soft course. so much that wesley ward isn't going at all. i wonder if there will be scratches from any of the major players............

my miss storm cat 06-18-2012 01:27 PM

Hope not!

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http://horses.sportinglife.com/SL_Fa...130850,00.html

Pulling out my hair trying to figure out how to arrange Bated Breath, Ortensia, Little Bridge, Joy And Fun and Margot Did.

As usual I'm playing Excelebration to beat Frankel although a, haven't had much luck in the past :D :wf and b, I do like Red Jazz as well.

Can't wait!

Hope the HK kids do well (some tough girls up against them though) and of course best of luck, Mr. Channon. :)

How about you SS? Are you playing every race? Looking forward to / playing / rooting for anyone in particular?

SundayStar 06-18-2012 06:06 PM

i'm just looking forward to seeing frankel and black caviar. i can't remember if frankel has run on a soft course. do you know if excelebration "excels" on a soft course? he will definitely need some kind of edge to have a chance to beat the beast.

Arletta 06-18-2012 07:00 PM

Here are my very fine Royal Horsey Picks :)

2.25 Frankel
3.05 Ortensia ( I think Morty's Pick would be #19:D)
3.45 Power
4.25 Sir Prancelot (Like #7 too)
5.00 Simenon
5.35 Lyric Ace

King Glorious 06-18-2012 11:56 PM

I'm looking forward to seeing Black Caviar and really hoping for a loss.

NoChanceToDance 06-19-2012 04:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by King Glorious (Post 869853)
I'm looking forward to seeing Black Caviar and really hoping for a loss.

Why is that?

You'll be disappointed then.

Arletta 06-19-2012 05:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by King Glorious (Post 869853)
I'm looking forward to seeing Black Caviar and really hoping for a loss.

Wtf? :mad:

santana 06-19-2012 07:59 AM

With 30 minutes to post, Frankel is 1/9 with more than 220,000 to win bet on him.
Freaken 11 horse field and ONLY win betting ? What a joke.

Arletta 06-19-2012 09:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by santana (Post 869877)
With 30 minutes to post, Frankel is 1/9 with more than 220,000 to win bet on him.
Freaken 11 horse field and ONLY win betting ? What a joke.

He's that good :)

Arletta 06-19-2012 09:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by my miss storm cat (Post 869780)
Hope not!

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http://horses.sportinglife.com/SL_Fa...130850,00.html

Pulling out my hair trying to figure out how to arrange Bated Breath, Ortensia, Little Bridge, Joy And Fun and Margot Did.

As usual I'm playing Excelebration to beat Frankel although a, haven't had much luck in the past :D :wf and b, I do like Red Jazz as well.

Can't wait!

Hope the HK kids do well (some tough girls up against them though) and of course best of luck, Mr. Channon. :)

How about you SS? Are you playing every race? Looking forward to / playing / rooting for anyone in particular?


Good call MMSC! :)

King Glorious 06-19-2012 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoChanceToDance (Post 869863)
Why is that?

You'll be disappointed then.

I just get tired of overrated provincial horses. Beating the same limited group over and over doesn't impress me. It's getting to be the same thing with Frankel although at least his races are world class races open to everyone. She's got to step out of her comfort zone and win. If she does, I'll quickly be here to give her the credit she deserves but until then, I hold off. It's not much different than Zenyatta just beating up on the same Southern Cal stiff race after race.

my miss storm cat 06-19-2012 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arletta (Post 869891)
Good call MMSC! :)

Thank you! I love that horse! :D :$: :$:

Arletta 06-19-2012 12:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by King Glorious (Post 869909)
I just get tired of overrated provincial horses. Beating the same limited group over and over doesn't impress me. It's getting to be the same thing with Frankel although at least his races are world class races open to everyone. She's got to step out of her comfort zone and win. If she does, I'll quickly be here to give her the credit she deserves but until then, I hold off. It's not much different than Zenyatta just beating up on the same Southern Cal stiff race after race.

So your hoping she loses so you can say she was just "average"?

It's not like she's been beating allowance type horses.

I believe I will be but one of many that will be cheering her on this Saturday. Not only because of what she has already shown, but because we want to believe that she is as good or even better than we have so far seen. They at least put her on a plane and traveled 30 hours to prove it. No one can say her connections ever "ducked" the competition in order to remain unbeaten.

Black Caviar is a truly exceptional race horse. To be able to look back one day and say "I remember when......", just as those do/did that were witness to previous greats of the past such as Secretariat, Phar Lap, Sea Bird, Ruffian, etc.,is going to be an awesome feeling.

hoovesupsideyourhead 06-20-2012 08:14 AM

any link to free pps for this meet

NTamm1215 06-20-2012 09:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead (Post 870038)
any link to free pps for this meet

https://www.tvg.com/forms/Ascot062012.pdf

Coach Pants 06-20-2012 10:01 AM

Yeah Hay List is an average horse. I'm sure Black Caviar will be intimidated by the monsters she'll face this weekend.

hoovesupsideyourhead 06-20-2012 03:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NTamm1215 (Post 870042)

thanks nick

my miss storm cat 06-20-2012 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by King Glorious (Post 869909)
I just get tired of overrated provincial horses. Beating the same limited group over and over doesn't impress me. It's getting to be the same thing with Frankel although at least his races are world class races open to everyone. She's got to step out of her comfort zone and win. If she does, I'll quickly be here to give her the credit she deserves but until then, I hold off. It's not much different than Zenyatta just beating up on the same Southern Cal stiff race after race.

:D

I'm sorry but you know 1.we could substitute any HK runner (are they still not good enough?) and it would be just like old times and 2. that I want to smack you when you do this. :p

Kingie since it's a given she will win the only thing that would make it even better is for Ortensia to run (I'm assuming she's not world class?) and be right behind her. (... and I really do think that if she runs Ortensia and Bated Breath will fill out the tri).

(For anyone who wants to keep an eye on that...)
http://www.paulmessara.com.au/

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Can't wait to see The Fugue tomorrow...I don't see anyone beating the top three in that race (Vow and Shirocco Star).

Mick Channons runner in the Norfolk has Craig Williams up? Very nice!

dagolfer33 06-20-2012 08:14 PM

Far and away my favorite horse of the day is...............

...............Ceiling Kitty :D.

NoChanceToDance 06-20-2012 09:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by King Glorious (Post 869909)
I just get tired of overrated provincial horses. Beating the same limited group over and over doesn't impress me. It's getting to be the same thing with Frankel although at least his races are world class races open to everyone. She's got to step out of her comfort zone and win. If she does, I'll quickly be here to give her the credit she deserves but until then, I hold off. It's not much different than Zenyatta just beating up on the same Southern Cal stiff race after race.

You're very much wrong, my friend. If by beating the likes of Hay List, Wanted, Foxwedge, Crystal Lily, Scenic Blast, Ortensia, Star Witness and Beaded to name just a few of the genuine Gr1 winners, is 'beating the same limited group' then please forgive me.

I'm actually tired of people going on and on about aspects of this industry that they clearly know very little about. If you had any idea of the quality Australia posesses in it's sprinting ranks you wouldn't even think about making such a harsh comment.

So, she gets bagged for beating the world's number one male sprinter a few times..... it's ridiculous. Hay List would defeat just about any other sprinter put in his way anywhere around the world, yet she can go past him like he's stood still and she's 'overrated'?

Choisir, Takeover Target, Miss Andretti, Scenic Blast and Starspangledbanner - they all have two things in common. They're all Australian bred and trained (for the most part) sprinters and all won at Royal Ascot in either the Kings Stand or Golden Jubilee (Choisir won both). None of them (and I mean none of them) would even be in the same league as Black Caviar, none would even be able to get close enough to her to blow wind up her a$$........... now that's not me saying that, it's not even the connections of Black Caviar. The people who have said that are the owners and trainers of the horses I've just listed.

Back in February in the Gr1 Lightning stakes she went under 10 seconds for two consecutive furlongs with a final time of 55.5 seconds over 5 furlongs, this was just seven days after having her first ever start over 7 furlongs!

Last year she won the Gr1 Newmarket, which is weighted as a handicap. She carried more weight than any other filly had in this race. The horse who filled the 2nd, 3rd and 4th placings were all group one winners and she gave them all at least 5.5kgs! Crystal Lily who ran 2nd was the Golden Slipper winner from the year before and the great mare gave her a massive 8kgs, and she still won with her head in her chest.

It's been proven year after year that Australia breeds the best sprinters in the world, whether they race in Australia or Asia, hence the success they have had in the international sprints over the past ten years. Don't for one minute think the racing there is "limited".

You are very much mistaken.

Arletta 06-20-2012 10:38 PM

Here! Here!

Coach Pants 06-21-2012 06:20 AM

Excellent post.

Coach Pants 06-21-2012 09:05 AM

Race 2
$20 wp Kailani

Coach Pants 06-21-2012 09:10 AM

Burning money like the Sheikh.

Coach Pants 06-21-2012 09:45 AM

Race 3
$50 win 9

Coach Pants 06-21-2012 09:51 AM

Trip, strangle, trip, suck my *******.

dagolfer33 06-21-2012 10:26 AM

10$ WP Bronze Angel

Coach Pants 06-21-2012 10:30 AM

Couldn't bet that race. Closed pool. Was going to do a 4,11, field exacta box.

OF COURSE!!

dagolfer33 06-21-2012 10:42 AM

They don't play over there, I tried to bet the first race-my phone said exactly 8:25 and they were gone. I would have lost however.

dagolfer33 06-21-2012 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dagolfer33 (Post 870215)
10$ WP Bronze Angel

$60.00 pay me in pound notes.

_ed_ 06-22-2012 08:40 AM

Wow. That's the best performance I've seen by a 2yo filly in a while.

Coach Pants 06-22-2012 08:52 AM

Yeah the jock was a little overwhelmed judging by the close-up slo-mo. And rightfully so. Monster.

South Beach Luv 06-22-2012 09:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _ed_ (Post 870304)
Wow. That's the best performance I've seen by a 2yo filly in a while.


Indeed.

Why in the pps does it show her by Fappiano? :confused:


Coach Pants 06-22-2012 09:48 AM

10:41 AM Ascot UK 3 $10.00 WP 4 $20.00
:o

South Beach Luv 06-22-2012 10:00 AM

Nice Coach!

I contributed to that 4k Tri payout

dagolfer33 06-22-2012 10:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coach Pants (Post 870319)
10:41 AM Ascot UK 3 $10.00 WP 4 $20.00
:o

:$:


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