Acorn 6-10-6 Belmont, race 9 ,3yo F
 

who do you like here,

bushfire
adieu
what about teammate on the belmont track ??

I like Ermine.

I'm going with Teammate.

Adieu will be tough. But I like Miraculous Miss.

Hello Liberty beat me at the wire a few weeks back going 7F. I like her at 1M.

Yes, she is supposed to.

I'm trying to form my Pick-4 and having a hard time trimming my selections for this leg. Right now, I have: Adieu, Bushfire, Wonder Lady Anne L, Teammate, Hello Liberty, and Ermine.

Anyone got a good reason why I can toss any of these?... or why I'm dumb to leave one of the others off?? :confused:

I don't really like bushfire. . . seems inconsistent. . . don't like last workout. . . and velasquez chose to ride teammate over bushfire

personally i like wonder lady- the PPs say she was "empty late" in the oaks but i strongly disagree. . . it looked to me like she had plenty more but got cut off in the stretch. . . plus i love bejarano

Ya i have narrowed down every race to about 6, LOL !!!

LOL!!! Like I said I can see 6 horses winning this race as well. Its obvious who i am rooting for, but emotion has no place in handicapping a race. Its a very hard race to narrow down in any sense. Horses are coming out of sprints, routes, etc. Its a spread race to me.

i hear ya,


but its not what a want to hear....


this card is tougher than Bc day 05

Teammate appears to have worked 3F this morning. Not a fan of horses working day before a race.

Well thats really what you want though isn't it? I mean Travers day last year we got treated to LITF, Leroi, and a few others at very short prices. At least if you can come up with a good opinion tomorrow you are going to get paid.

Exceller,
when Jerkens or Shug use that move, it is HIGHLY effective!!!! I always liked that move with those two guys.

i can't spread 6 horses on this race, can we narrow it down to 4

you like the teammate work by the trainer,

so we need three more for this.

adieu doesn't seem to care for the belmont surface, tg =14,8,10

i gotta go with

3)bushfire
5)wnderlady
7) teammate

and either the 8 or the 9, leaning toward the 9 ermine , as the 8 hello liberrty had never been farther than 7f.

so thats my ticket,

3,5,7,9

unless you can say something that i may want to know.

I like the Oaks horses quite frankly. That race was better than it looked. The pace was hot and several had to make moves that were wide or in tigtht quarters. If you put a gun to my head I would use WLA, Bushfire, Ermine, and also Teammate.

No knock on Oracles horse but you have to use Hello Liberty before WL. You guys are much better gamblers than me but HL ran a nice number over the same racetrack. I like Ermine, Hello Liberty and Adieu. In that order.

I was ready to toss Adieu until I looked over her competition in her last race... Joint Effort(1st in that race against Adieu) came back to win again, and Smart N Pretty(3rd behind Adieu in that race) "won" the Black Eyed Susan only to be DQ'd.

Exceller Liberty tripped out last time and barely got by a horse who isnt much, Win McCool. Shes never been farther than 7F and looks like a big bounce candidate as well. Lemem ask you something ok? How do you think that horse would have fared in the Oaks? Think she would have been in the top 6? I think not. The Oaks had a hard pace because it was contested by at least 3 horses at all points in the race, and from the turn on by about 6 across the track. When horses are all out running with and between a lot of other good horses, its gonna be a tough race. I'm thinking Hello Liberty and WIn McCool wouldnt ahve hung around to even teh turn in the Oaks.

They are only running a mile tomorrow. Hello Liberty looks like she might be the fastest horse in there and she wins races. I only like Ermine better. If I was you I would like WLA too but a clear headed person sees she is less likely than Hello Liberty. Add in a little moisture in the track and she is even more likely.

Exceller, grow a brain will you? Or at least read my earlier posts on this thread. I said it was a hard race and that emotion had no place in analyzing a race. I always analyze races objectively. I can tell you right now that Hello Liberty has no chance and was one of my only 3 tossouts in the race. If you were me? Oh, I see, you have a fasttrack to whats inside my head.
I like the Oaks horses here, I think they are the contenders. WOuld you like WIn McCool in this spot as well? because thats who liberty was life and death to beat in the last start. She also ran a lifetime best, and figures to regress. Liberty is taking a huge jump up, and the oaks hosrse are making a lateral move. Im including all the oaks horses, Teammate, and Adieu. No Liberty for me.

Oh yeah, and she beat the Mighty Swap Fliparoo last time, lol.

okay, i think i'll have to include adieu, second back from the layoff ran 7.5f in her first back in 128.18, add 6, thats 134.18
and thats racin time, even if you add 7, you have 135.18 and taht is still good, sepcially for the fillies.

i think i will skip the 11 race and go with a pick 3 ticket instead.

Sure I will grow a brain. You bet with other peoples money so it is easy to pick anyone you want. "Sweat Equity" is that what they call it. LOL. If you are are so good why don't you use your own money? I use my own money when I bet and buy into horses. I still like Ermine but Hello Liberty ran a huge figure on this track and seems to want more distance. I remember her shifting to the rail and then reeling in that other filly. She would have won by 5 at 8F. Hello Liberty has 4 wins in 7 starts. You are handicapping a 10F race, I am looking at an 8f race. Hello Liberty has a legit shot to beat Ermine.

Doesn't matter who was in the race, she won in a time that puts her at the top of this field over the same track.

on tgraph both these horses look similar,
ermine is cutting back from her last 3 of, 9f,8.5f, and 8.5f
place, win win

liberty is stretching out
last three, 7f, 6f,5.5f
win win place..

liberty is a good sprinter, this is 1 turn over 8f,

i like the fact the other is shortening as opposed to lenghening.
besides these two might not even be a part of it its sooo deep.

I think it comes down to whether you think Hello Liberty is improving or will bounce. I say she is improving. Looks like she wanted a little more distance in the last. I still think Ermine will catch her, but I like those two based on the figures.

Exceller my point is that its quite arrogant for you to think you know how I analyze a race or why. Its why i told you about what i felt the knocks were on Liberty. Bet whoever you want, its a horserace.

I agree. I would be lying if I said I was rooting for your horse when I will be betting other horses, but if I don't win I hope your horse does.

Spoken like a gentleman. Thats how most people feel about a race. If my horse is dead in the lane, I always root for a freind's if he is in contention. If I can't win, I want someone I like to win.

Teammate is my choice.

Mine too. :)

Look who I just saw in tomorrow's entires and has a shot at a grade 1 this weekend. The "horse who isnt much", Win McCool. Hello Liberty ran pretty well against Bushfire too. I guess you were wrong on this one.