Tuesday primaries
 

Wisconsin: Barret goes against Walker next election for Governor

Indiana: Romney wins! Still has no idea what his "convictions" are.

Long-time incumbent Senator Dick Lugar defeated by Tea Partier Richard Mourdock. This makes the fall Senate race a horse race now, with a great chance of the election now going to Democrat Joe Donnelly.

And North Carolina votes to take rights away from unmarried couples.

OMG, I just saw that result. Unbelievable. Hello, America? 21st century here.


Bigotry and hate are alive and well. And publicly proud.

Y'all be wrong bout that in NC...:)

I came to Kentucky from Chicago area, and used to live in Atlanta. Yeah, there's some culture shock within those states still fighting the War of Northern Aggression.

The Democratic Convention is in North Carolina. That will be interesting ....

So I wonder what North Carolinians will do when they discover they've just removed a lot of rights from unmarried heterosexual couples? PS, this is already headed to court.

Strange how those that scream so loudly for "Constitutional rights" are the first ones to take them away from fellow Americans.

“Marriage remains an essential social institution which unites men and women to provide for the reproduction of the human race and to provide mothers and fathers for children. We trust that the voters of North Carolina will recognize and protect this vital public purpose of marriage."


i call bullshit.

allowing same sex partners to marry wouldn't prevent men and women from marrying.
the truth is closer to:

we don't think people should marry someone of the same sex. it's wrooong. the bible says so.

:rolleyes:
i think states and the fed should remove all benefits granted by govt to married couples. boy, that would be interesting, wouldn't it? it's the only other way to make sure all are treated equally.

It's strange how you assume wrong, twat.

HUGE WIN FOR THE PUBLIC UNIONS in WI yesterday. They spent over $5 million on a candidate that lost to a guy that doesn't support them by 24 points. Voting for Barrett is only voting against Walker not for Tom Barrett. Barrett has proven time and time again he will do absolutely nothing. Just take a look at what he has done as the Mayor of the City of Milwaukee. Should be a fun 4 weeks

Then the unmarried couples should leave NC for a state that supports them. States competing with each other is a great thing for this country. If NC wants to be that kind of state they should lose their gay population.
I am shocked that CO went the same route, very shocked as this state has struck me as being very socially liberal despite it's Christian population, hunting and fishing population and rural areas.
My neighbor showed up at my Kentucky Derby party to announce her candidacy for state senate on Saturday. Despite my more conservative leanings most of my friends are younger couples, the majority of which work in the education system. Her showing up and letting everyone know she was running (after a good three hour head start on drinking) then sharing her views, including being "staunchly against the SIN of gay marriage" raised quite a few hackles amongst my guests and I had to ask her to leave as a Derby/Cinco party is no place for debate. Once again I am forced to consider the democratic candidate based on the Rep. being a religious nut.

You actually booted a neighbor out of your Kentucky Derby party? :tro:

Sure did, not only did she come in talking politics, but she showed up with her dog (I have two less than accommodating large dogs), came empty handed (I was brought up to never go anywhere empty handed) and she never lets people park on the public street in front of her house during the 4th of July fireworks in the park across the street. She was invited, as are all the neighbors, but I thought all of those combined transgressions meant she had to go.

Sounds like a self-absorbed A*Hole she will fit in well as a politician.

She is and she will. Though I think she will have a very hard time getting votes.

Starting with Barrett's win yesterday every single union and other candidate came out in full support. You're right, it will be a fun 4 weeks, and Wisconsin will decide. Nearly a million Wisconsin voters already decided Walker should undergo a recall election, thus he is. That's a historic lack of confidence by the electorate right there. I've seen zero indication that Walker has gotten the message that he represents all of Wisconsin, not just the Koch brothers.

Ooooh, interesting .... I like it!

The research triangle will probably suffer. Few want to raise their kids in a social nest of bigots and haters.

NC already had outlawed gay marriage. That existed before this vote. But now, with this constitutional amendment passed (it's not passed yet, it was a referendum), the fear is the amendment removes current legal protections from all unmarried couples, including heterosexuals. Things like right to visit in hospital, orders of protection against domestic violence, etc.

As 'Zig pointed out, this is entirely about a religious cult forcing their theocratic beliefs on an entire state. It's exactly the "Sharia Law" that these very same theocratic loons fear.

How many of those so called million people that forced the recall showed up yesterday in support of their candidate? How many people voted for walker in a meaningless primary for walker? If this recall was about unions and collective bargaining they lost yesterday

Yesterday hardly was any statement at all about "unions and recalls". That comes in four weeks.

Yesterday was another election in a state rocked by multiple elections and recalls, and this election wasn't even mentioned in multiple small-town Wisconsin newspapers. Election fatigue is real. The turnout was pretty good, however. Hard to tell what's what with the crossover Dems who voted for that kid running against Walker.

But more Dems voted than GOP. If the same dedicated voters on both sides come out in four weeks, Barrett wins easily.

But everyone knows that yesterday hardly matters, in comparison to what happens at the recall election for Walker and other current office-holders four weeks from now.

If Walker holds his office (I don't think he will, but we'll see - he's had millions from out-of-state big donors funneled in to try and hold the seat), doubtful he'll have the GOP state legislature that has allowed him free reign to do the ALEC legislative bidding that he and the Fitz's have done so far.

The electorate is fed up, and both sides are acting within their rights, meeting what is required, and doing what responsible voters do - signing petitions and voting.

MADISON, Wis. (AP) — Turnout for the recall primary election broke 30 percent, the highest for a partisan primary in Wisconsin in 60 years.

More than 1.3 million people cast ballots Tuesday, which equates to 30.2 percent of eligible voters statewide. Milwaukee Mayor Tom Barrett won a four-way race for the Democratic nomination, while Republican Gov. Scott Walker easily overcame token opposition on the GOP side.

About 670,000 votes were cast for one of the Democratic candidates, with Barrett getting about 387,000 votes. About 646,000 votes were cast on the Republican side.

This is the first gubernatorial recall election in Wisconsin history so there are no comparable primaries with which to compare it. However, the previous high turnout for a regular fall primary was 38.9 percent in 1952 based on records dating to 1948.

http://gazettextra.com/weblogs/lates...ks-30-percent/

The guy running against Walker received 19,920 votes so cross over from the democrats did not really exist.

Barrett is the Mayor of Milwaukee with the most job losses in the state coming from milwaukee and the highest unemployment by 2% as compared to the rest of the state. He has never held to a single campaign promise and used Walker's reforms to help save Milwaukee $. He has failed terribly as a mayor and has NEVER stood his ground for anything. Glad to see that the democrats think he is qualified to run the state seeing that he has been so good for Milwaukee. Add up Falk and Barrett's votes they are less than Walker votes when many republicans did not take time to vote or crossed over and voted for Falk. If this recall was so important and was really about Collective bargaining then those people that signed the recall petition would have showed up and showed their support. They did not. Now the fun begins and the truth about Tom Barrett comes out again.

:D:D

"Walker fixed it"

Fixed what? Not jobs: Wisconsin had worst in the country private sector numbers, 23,000 loss. Not the budget: he had to steal money to try and cover his losses. Not unions: they gave him everything he asked for as far as concessions, he busted them anyway in accordance with what ALEC and the RGA told him to do.

Walker is a mouthpiece and a short-leashed dog for his corporate owners. They are pouring millions in from out of state to try and keep him in office. Walker has spent more time out of state raising money than in it.

Good luck! May the best man win - even if the GOP attempt to restrict voting access was overturned in court.

How much money has been saved by the actions that governor walker has taken? What does the budget look like compared to when Doyle was in office? Where are the job losses in the state? Are they in Milwaukee where the democratic candidate has been Mayor? What has Barrett done to bring jobs or business to Milwaukee (oh yeah he wants a street car that no one else wants)? How much time has Walker had in office and how has the political climate been with all the crying by the democrats? If you were a business owner would you bring jobs to WI based on the amount of political BS that has been going on in the state or would you wait until it all shakes out? Democrats complain about jobs losses, but they have done everything they can to create more job losses? Barrett saved Milwaukee $25 million by using the reforms that governor Walker gave him. Barrett also complained that Walker didn't go far enough with the collective bargaining by excluding the police and fire unions.

Barrett has already lost to Walker. The citizens have seen what Walker has done, and will judge accordingly. Enough citizens have chosen the chance to have a do-over on the last election, so that it is happening.

And more recalls, aside from the ones that already happened, are up for vote.

We'll know in 4 weeks. 1,316,000 people voted in the primary, 670,000 for Dems, 646,000 for Republicans. The GOP has to make up 24,000 votes to catch up to the Dems and tie. Turnout will matter.

ok, I get it now. Thanks for clarifying. Let's not let the actual facts get in the way the discussion.

What facts? Walker's 23,000 job loss is well-documented and has been discussed here before. As has his budget deficit and his manovers to cover it up. His performance is what it is. So is Barrett's. Neither is an unknown quantity. The voters will judge both on their records.

I hope the turnout is massive and historic, so the state gets a true representative vote on what the majority wants.

If this was based on Job performance there would be no point in an election at all because Walker would CRUSH BARRETT. Can you tell me one good thing that Tom Barrett has done for the City of Milwaukee since he has been mayor? Deep tunnel project, MPS, his claim he was going to take over MPS?, Property taxes?, Unemployment?, Teen pregnancy rates?, Infant mortality rates?, budget? Black Male unemployment? Employment in the city at all? Luring businesses to Milwaukee? Do you have anything?

You'd think Walker would run on that, then.

I would take a talking cheese head over Scott Walker, thanks. As the unions who supported Falk said today, 110% with Barrett, to get Walker out. I consider Walker a disaster, and Tom Barrett not. You are free to campaign against Barrett all you want. Go for it.

ok I get it. You have nothing. You dislike Walker and what he has done. There is no logic to voting for your candidate and you are just voting against Walker. You can't point out 1 single thing that your candidate has done positively for the City of Milwaukee in the entire time he has been Mayor, but yet you want him to lead the state. Glad you don't vote in WI or maybe you do because we don't require an ID to vote.....

Yes, I would absolutely "just" vote against Walker, be the winner of the primary Falk or Barrett. Sorta like people that would vote anybody against Obama? You know anybody like that? <vbg>

In my estimation, Walker has been a disaster for Wisconsin, and Barrett - and the new, non-GOP majority legislature - will undo much of what Walker has done that I do not like in the remainder of the term.

If they win. No, I do not vote in Wisconsin, but I have many relatives that do, and I certainly will support Barrett financially. Especially as Walker is owned by Texas oil money. Barrett needs the help.

IMO Walker is a corporate-owned dog on a leash, he's a disaster, and I want him out of the governorship, so badly that I fully support the other nearly one-million Wisconsinites that think the same, and legally completed the process to get Walker into this recall election. Democracy - it's a beautiful thing.

The amazing kreskin

It's like watching a dog bark at clouds

Public Service Warning
 

As I've been reminding all on WI websites

Whether Rep or Dem :) if you are an illegal, a convicted felon or for some other reason are forbidden to vote I'd suggest you not partake in either the upcoming WI election or for that matter the next national election as the voting rolls will be scrutinized like never before.

And thank you WI dems for again putting public unions before jobs, education, reducing taxes, teen pregnancy and crime with the nomination of Mayor Barrett. :tro:

Makes an easy job even easier for the elected Gov.

Now about those job numbers

http://www.jsonline.com/news/statepo...151655365.html

Keep trying to spin it any way you want. Try to attack Walker, but the REAL NUMBERS Don't LIE!

Oh yeah the DNC told Barrett that they are not sending any money his way.

He won't need it, he has Riot and the Unions to help him.
Stop using math, actual math has no place in these discussions, only theoretical math is welcome here mouth breather!

It's nice that Walker found an outlier, a measure not used normally, to try and say he created jobs. He's pretty desperate, especially with the John Doe investigation about felonies in his office ongoing, and his budget disaster.

The way we always and usually measure jobs says differently, of course. From your article:

That's right. The "real" numbers, that every state uses, that Walker used to use before last year turned out so badly, says Wisconsin was the worse job creation state in the country last year.

Yeah, I read that. They asked for a half-million dollars. There was some fund-raising thing the last two days in response that raised over 250K, I know; and a teachers union just gave that half-million yesterday to make it up.

DNC is coming to Wisconsin to help GOTV, unknown if they will bring their checkbook. It is difficult, as Walker is using virtually 100% of "outside money" to try and hold his seat. He's ahead by 5 points at worse from the polling I've seen, so the Dems have a big task for voter turnout. It helps for the GOP that the GOP obstruction to delay the election until after the universities are dismissed worked. Their attempted obstruction of voter ID at the polls has been overturned by the courts, so that's a GOP loss and a Dem-Independent gain.

you are so predictable it is hilarious....

Yeah a survey of a small portion of employers is far better than actual payroll tax records..... (remember the source of the story, a very bias liberal newspaper)

In Wisconsin under governor Walker the 3rd grade test scores are substantially better than when Govenor Doyle was in office so now we actually can do Math in our state.

Well, no, the other major Wisconsin job loss documentation is the commonly used (even by Walker) federal government jobs numbers. They said -23,000 losses last year. They have Wisconsin rated the worse job loss state in the nation. That's indisputable. The article you quoted has even more job losses. Ouch! I can see why Walker is desperate to try and say he created jobs in the face of those terrible numbers.

Again, glad Walker found something to show differently than every other usually-used measure.

Oh: and that tape catching Walker lying about his intention to union bust, to his huge donor ... ouch!

Keep trying to redirect, change the subject etc. Fact is that WI had job gains, not losses. Fact is that if the political climate was better the job creation would be higher. If the democrats didn't waste all the money, time, etc on the recalls then we would have higher job creation. Fact is that the democrats stopped the mining bill and prevented more job creation. Fact is Tom Barrett has done nothing to create jobs (well he does want a Streetcar). Fact is the democrats and you are hoping that the state fails under Walker at all costs (even to the detriment of the working people).

Your logic is that a survey is better than cold hard facts.

Oh yeah new poll shows Walker's lead getting bigger. Based on your logic we don't need to even hold the recall election since the polls show Walker is ahead by 6 points.

According to the US Bureau of Labor Statistics (the nationally-recognized standard) Wisconsin lost 23,000 jobs in 2011, the worse state in the national (every other state posted equality or gains)

The newspaper article you posted listed 39,000 jobs lost via different method. And then a method used by Walker alone to show that everyone else is wrong, he's really created jobs.

I'll stick with the historical accuracy and common use of the US Bureau of Labor Statistics, used nationally and for some time to accurately quantitate job losses in all states.

Those are opinion. Not fact. There is a difference, you know.

I can't speak for "the Democrats" (and either can you) but no, I do not hope Wisconsin fails.

IMO, the Walker adminstration has been already been a disaster for Wisconsin, and the fail exists now: lying, budget overruns, union busting, job loss.

I am working hard to help contribute to his recall be effective, and for Walker to be voted out of office.

:zz: What "survey" are you referring to? What "logic"?

I mentioned is that Walker is ahead of Barrett in the polls now by, at the least, 5 points (range 5-6). That's fact, not "logic". You're just not making sense now.

In honor of your anger and discomfit, I just donated another $50 to Tom Barrett via Act Blue for his ads.

He's five points behind, he needs all the help he can get against Walker's outside oil money and national backers for the ALEC and Koch Brothers agenda. Scott Walker is a liar, and needs to be voted out of office. I am glad there is a historic recall election of this governor, he deserves it. I certainly stand behind my friends and family working hard to do so in Wisconsin. You are free to vote for Walker, and work hard for his re-election.