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NTamm1215 01-23-2012 10:15 AM

Breeders' Cup goes back to NBC
 
http://www.breederscup.com/content.aspx?id=47117

Breeders' Cup to NBC; Classic To Be Shown In Primetime

This year's $5 million Breeders' Cup Classic will be aired in prime time on NBC Sports as part of a new, multi-year partnership between the NBC Sports Group and the Breeders' Cup, it was announced this morning.

NBC and NBC Sports Network will combine to present 9 ½ hours of live coverage of the 2012 Breeders' Cup from Santa Anita Park in Arcadia, California Nov. 2 and 3, including live primetime coverage of the Breeders' Cup Classic on NBC on Saturday, Nov. 3 (8-9 p.m. ET). This will mark the first time in its history that the Classic will be broacast live in primetime. It also marks the return of the Breeders' Cup to NBC, where it was broadcast from its inception in 1984 through 2005. Financial terms of the deals were not disclosed.

“Everyone here is delighted that the Breeders' Cup has returned home,” said Jon Miller, President, Programming, NBC Sports and NBC Sports Network. “Bringing back this prestigious event, combined with our long-term partnerships for the Triple Crown with Churchill Downs for the Kentucky Derby, in addition to the Preakness and Belmont cements the NBC Sports Group as the home of horse racing.”

“We are extremely excited to begin our new relationship with NBC and the NBC Sports Group in televising the Breeders' Cup World Championships as the finale to its expanded commitment to Thoroughbred racing,” said Craig Fravel, President and CEO of Breeders' Cup Ltd. “In addition to fans enjoying the best in international competition over the two days of the Championships on NBC Sports Network, we look forward to NBC showcasing the Breeders' Cup Classic in primetime.”

MaTH716 01-23-2012 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by NTamm1215 (Post 833652)
http://www.breederscup.com/content.aspx?id=47117

Breeders' Cup to NBC; Classic To Be Shown In Primetime

This year's $5 million Breeders' Cup Classic will be aired in prime time on NBC Sports as part of a new, multi-year partnership between the NBC Sports Group and the Breeders' Cup, it was announced this morning.

NBC and NBC Sports Network will combine to present 9 ½ hours of live coverage of the 2012 Breeders' Cup from Santa Anita Park in Arcadia, California Nov. 2 and 3, including live primetime coverage of the Breeders' Cup Classic on NBC on Saturday, Nov. 3 (8-9 p.m. ET). This will mark the first time in its history that the Classic will be broacast live in primetime. It also marks the return of the Breeders' Cup to NBC, where it was broadcast from its inception in 1984 through 2005. Financial terms of the deals were not disclosed.

“Everyone here is delighted that the Breeders' Cup has returned home,” said Jon Miller, President, Programming, NBC Sports and NBC Sports Network. “Bringing back this prestigious event, combined with our long-term partnerships for the Triple Crown with Churchill Downs for the Kentucky Derby, in addition to the Preakness and Belmont cements the NBC Sports Group as the home of horse racing.”

“We are extremely excited to begin our new relationship with NBC and the NBC Sports Group in televising the Breeders' Cup World Championships as the finale to its expanded commitment to Thoroughbred racing,” said Craig Fravel, President and CEO of Breeders' Cup Ltd. “In addition to fans enjoying the best in international competition over the two days of the Championships on NBC Sports Network, we look forward to NBC showcasing the Breeders' Cup Classic in primetime.”

It's more like NBC Sports network will carry 8 1/2 hours of coverage, while NBC will pick up the classic for an hour.

freddymo 01-23-2012 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by MaTH716 (Post 833653)
It's more like NBC Sports network will carry 8 1/2 hours of coverage, while NBC will pick up the classic for an hour.

That is the way it should be

MaTH716 01-23-2012 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by freddymo (Post 833654)
That is the way it should be

I don't expect NBC to cover the entire event, but I just hoped that maybe they could pick up the late pick 4.

ajphilly 01-23-2012 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by MaTH716 (Post 833656)
I don't expect NBC to cover the entire event, but I just hoped that maybe they could pick up the late pick 4.

Notre Dame has a home game on the 3rd, and they usually start at 3:30. I'm sure this wasn't the only factor in keeping the coverage on NBC Sports for most of the day, hell it may not have been a factor at all, but at least keeping it on cable avoids the possible overrun problems we've seen with ABC/ESPN in the past.

NTamm1215 01-23-2012 10:54 AM

I'm sure we've heard the last of Trevor Denman as well.

MaTH716 01-23-2012 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by NTamm1215 (Post 833661)
I'm sure we've heard the last of Trevor Denman as well.

Nick, why do you say that?

NTamm1215 01-23-2012 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by MaTH716 (Post 833662)
Nick, why do you say that?

Trevor's deal is with the network, not the BC. Thus, he has no deal with NBC. If NBC wanted him then they could have him continue to do it, but NBC showed no interest in having him call the TC and has already employed Trevor for a period of time.

That was the nature of the problem when the BC went to ESPN in 2006 and Durkin was out of the loop. NBC does not want their Triple Crown announcer to call races on national TV on a different network. That's why ESPN had Denman do it.

MaTH716 01-23-2012 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by NTamm1215 (Post 833664)
Trevor's deal is with the network, not the BC. Thus, he has no deal with NBC. If NBC wanted him then they could have him continue to do it, but NBC showed no interest in having him call the TC and has already employed Trevor for a period of time.

That was the nature of the problem when the BC went to ESPN in 2006 and Durkin was out of the loop. NBC does not want their Triple Crown announcer to call races on national TV on a different network. That's why ESPN had Denman do it.

Thank you for the explination.

Danzig 01-23-2012 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by NTamm1215 (Post 833661)
I'm sure we've heard the last of Trevor Denman as well.

from your mouth to gods ears...well, someone's ears.

pointman 01-23-2012 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by NTamm1215 (Post 833661)
I'm sure we've heard the last of Trevor Denman as well.

Can we really be that lucky?

dagolfer33 01-23-2012 12:46 PM

Battalia waiting in the wings to make the BC classic call. "and they're off.......for the lead....":zz:

10 pnt move up 01-23-2012 12:55 PM

Wonder what the numbers of national households that have NBCSports versus ESPN? I believe on most cable operators that NBCSports is part of a sports premium versus ESPN which is basic cable?

ajphilly 01-23-2012 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up (Post 833672)
Wonder what the numbers of national households that have NBCSports versus ESPN? I believe on most cable operators that NBCSports is part of a sports premium versus ESPN which is basic cable?

Comcast has NBC Sports on basic cable, but Comcast also owns NBC Sports.

mclem0822 01-23-2012 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by dagolfer33 (Post 833671)
Battalia waiting in the wings to make the BC classic call. "and they're off.......for the lead....":zz:

:eek: Noooooo!

Alan07 01-23-2012 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by mclem0822 (Post 833675)
:eek: Noooooo!

Don't worry. :rolleyes:

3kings 01-23-2012 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up (Post 833672)
Wonder what the numbers of national households that have NBCSports versus ESPN? I believe on most cable operators that NBCSports is part of a sports premium versus ESPN which is basic cable?

I think NBC Sports (Versus) is pretty widly distributed on basic cable in the northeast and midwest because they have been carrying the NHL for a few years now. Not sure about the rest of the country.

MaTH716 01-23-2012 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up (Post 833672)
Wonder what the numbers of national households that have NBCSports versus ESPN? I believe on most cable operators that NBCSports is part of a sports premium versus ESPN which is basic cable?

I don't think thats the issue though. Speaking for myself, I have a handful of channels that I'll always flick through (The ESPN's, MSG, YES, NFL net. TVG etc.) and NBC Sports isn't on the list. I'm guessing that's the case for a lot of other people too, because besides hockey what else does the channel have to offer? So if it was carried on ESPN, you might possibly gain some viewers who stumble across it as opposed to NBC Sports network. I know it's a real stretch, but I just feel like it has a better chance of picking up viewers (and being seen by advertisements) on ESPN, then on NBC sports.

Danzig 01-23-2012 01:48 PM

i expect nbc will have a fair amount of advertising, just like they do for the olympics. well, maybe not quite as much as for the olympics. but they seem to want to make their sports network work, so they have to push it a lot. yes, i tune in there for hockey. but i know if i want to watch a sports news show, i go to theirs, as i can't stand the pomposity of espn these days.
and i think the belmont moving back to nbc in '11 gave it higher ratings then in past years...

LARHAGE 01-23-2012 02:03 PM

Well if NBCsports is Versus that makes me happy as that is basic programming on Dish Network.

Alan07 01-23-2012 02:11 PM

http://www.drf.com/news/nbc-regains-...air-prime-time

No decision yet on talent but one would assume that NBC would want to use their own voices for the races.

10 pnt move up 01-23-2012 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by MaTH716 (Post 833681)
I don't think thats the issue though. Speaking for myself, I have a handful of channels that I'll always flick through (The ESPN's, MSG, YES, NFL net. TVG etc.) and NBC Sports isn't on the list. I'm guessing that's the case for a lot of other people too, because besides hockey what else does the channel have to offer? So if it was carried on ESPN, you might possibly gain some viewers who stumble across it as opposed to NBC Sports network. I know it's a real stretch, but I just feel like it has a better chance of picking up viewers (and being seen by advertisements) on ESPN, then on NBC sports.

Yea not really sure, I know on Cox its part of basic cable but I know on Dtv it used to be channel 605 which was with the TVG and those type channels you would get as part of the sports package.

I just think going from NBC to ESPN to Versus (now NBC Sports) is following a very unhealthy progression.

mclem0822 01-23-2012 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Alan07 (Post 833677)
Don't worry. :rolleyes:

:D I know he was joking Alan, just cannot stand Battaglia's calls, snooze enducer!

dagolfer33 01-23-2012 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by mclem0822 (Post 833702)
:D I know he was joking Alan, just cannot stand Battaglia's calls, snooze enducer!

IMO, if anyone new deserves a shot at the national stage it should be John Dooley. He is very good at bringing excitement and accuracy to a racecall, and his descriptive style would be appealing.

Danzig 01-23-2012 04:06 PM

just don't let bobby flay do it!

philcski 01-23-2012 04:13 PM

100% chance it'll be Larry Collmus. And I'm happy about that.

freddymo 01-23-2012 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by MaTH716 (Post 833681)
I don't think thats the issue though. Speaking for myself, I have a handful of channels that I'll always flick through (The ESPN's, MSG, YES, NFL net. TVG etc.) and NBC Sports isn't on the list. I'm guessing that's the case for a lot of other people too, because besides hockey what else does the channel have to offer? So if it was carried on ESPN, you might possibly gain some viewers who stumble across it as opposed to NBC Sports network. I know it's a real stretch, but I just feel like it has a better chance of picking up viewers (and being seen by advertisements) on ESPN, then on NBC sports.

Getting racing developed on the NBCSports network is a good thing. Comcast bought 51% of the entire network fom GE and Comcast is looking to invest in the new face of the Sport Network it could be very good news for racing. Lets say they do well with this and then start to partner with NYRA for SPA andthe fall Championship stuff.

my miss storm cat 01-23-2012 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by dagolfer33 (Post 833703)
IMO, if anyone new deserves a shot at the national stage it should be John Dooley. He is very good at bringing excitement and accuracy to a racecall, and his descriptive style would be appealing.

I like Trevor but agree.... I wouldn't have a problem with Dooley calling the races.

NTamm1215 01-23-2012 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by philcski (Post 833710)
100% chance it'll be Larry Collmus. And I'm happy about that.

I'm with you.

helicopter11 01-23-2012 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by LARHAGE (Post 833691)
Well if NBCsports is Versus that makes me happy as that is basic programming on Dish Network.

I have Americas 120 Plus and I dont have it. How is that you get it with only basic programming?

NTamm1215 01-23-2012 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by helicopter11 (Post 833737)
I have Americas 120 Plus and I dont have it. How is that you get it with only basic programming?

It's not available with America's 120 Plus. The bottom level is America's Top 250.

MaTH716 01-23-2012 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by freddymo (Post 833717)
Getting racing developed on the NBCSports network is a good thing. Comcast bought 51% of the entire network fom GE and Comcast is looking to invest in the new face of the Sport Network it could be very good news for racing. Lets say they do well with this and then start to partner with NYRA for SPA andthe fall Championship stuff.

I just hope that they promote it well on the big network. Maybe they can even put up a special crawl/box during the Notre Dame game, giving up to date odds, prices and most importantly minutes to post. At least people will have an idea that there is a special event going on and when they can tune in to see a race.

iamthelurker 01-23-2012 09:56 PM

Would love to see Durkin get the job back, but it will most likely be Collmus.

3kings 01-24-2012 06:58 AM

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Originally Posted by iamthelurker (Post 833772)
Would love to see Durkin get the job back, but it will most likely be Collmus.

Would Durkin want the job back? Didn't he give up some national opportunities due to the stress it was causing him?

Edit, found a link:

http://abcnews.go.com/Health/MindMoo...ry?id=13480428

LARHAGE 01-24-2012 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by helicopter11 (Post 833737)
I have Americas 120 Plus and I dont have it. How is that you get it with only basic programming?



I have Americas Everything Package...... I love TV. :)

Gate Dancer 01-24-2012 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by dagolfer33 (Post 833703)
IMO, if anyone new deserves a shot at the national stage it should be John Dooley. He is very good at bringing excitement and accuracy to a racecall, and his descriptive style would be appealing.

I'll second that...... :tro:

Alan07 01-24-2012 10:30 PM

If the schedule stays the same (i.e: races) I wonder how they are going to get 8 races Saturday in 4.5 hours unless they farm one or two out to the racing nets or move one to Friday.

freddymo 01-25-2012 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Alan07 (Post 833974)
If the schedule stays the same (i.e: races) I wonder how they are going to get 8 races Saturday in 4.5 hours unless they farm one or two out to the racing nets or move one to Friday.

Why not NBCsports channel(versus)?

Chipster 01-25-2012 02:29 PM

Versus
 
Competent job on the Saratoga product, even from a Del Mar Fan's perspective.

;)

Indian Charlie 01-25-2012 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Chipster (Post 834078)
Competent job on the Saratoga product, even from a Del Mar Fan's perspective.

;)

What is a chipster?


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