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nebrady 01-09-2012 10:11 PM

No true college champ again bcs is a joke!
 
Before i hear bama say their the champs, your not. Lsu beat you at your place and shouldn't have to beat you again. All this does is show that we need a playoff and get rid of this BS CRAP! Its a joke and so sick of them saying this is the championship game, its not its the bs chump game. Congrats to lsu, bama and okla state you can all split that stupid crystal football!

herkhorse 01-09-2012 10:14 PM

B.ullshit

hi_im_god 01-09-2012 10:16 PM

clearly the best team.

i'd love a playoff system but the bcs got it right.

dagolfer33 01-09-2012 10:17 PM

I will represent LSU, and on behalf of LSU I would like to say, we dont deserve any piece of the crystal ball.

herkhorse 01-09-2012 10:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dagolfer33 (Post 830442)
I will represent LSU, and on behalf of LSU I would like to say, we dont deserve any piece of the crystal ball.

:tro:

nebrady 01-09-2012 10:21 PM

the point is no one deserves it! the system is a joke and so is this sham of a game. By the way lsu i'd be pissed if i were you. When do you have to beat a team twice to win it all. You beat bama there and won the conference bama should have been in another bcs sham bowl. No one is champ again.

dagolfer33 01-09-2012 10:24 PM

.....furthermore, I would like for anyone to go back in the past, search any of my posts containing the keywords LES MILES, and note any of my comments.:zz::zz::zz:

In my closing statement I would like to say, well......, just ask Clyde.

hi_im_god 01-09-2012 10:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nebrady (Post 830444)
the point is no one deserves it! the system is a joke and so is this sham of a game. By the way lsu i'd be pissed if i were you. When do you have to beat a team twice to win it all. You beat bama there and won the conference bama should have been in another bcs sham bowl. No one is champ again.

it's 1-0 on td's scored.

does that help?

or do you want to state an argument for a team that scored no points in their final game as a national champion?

clyde 01-09-2012 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by dagolfer33 (Post 830445)
.....furthermore, I would like for anyone to go back in the past, search any of my posts containing the keywords LES MILES, and note any of my comments.:zz::zz::zz:

In my closing statement I would like to say, well......, just ask Clyde.




My computer screen is brought to you by the makers of Cokey Cola.




I think Les' front yard will be littered with Etch-A-Sketches by the time he returns.

dagolfer33 01-09-2012 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by clyde (Post 830449)
My computer screen is brought to you by the makers of Cokey Cola.




I think Les' front yard will be littered with Etch-A-Sketches by the time he returns.

If I could I would choke that motherfuc.ker.

clyde 01-09-2012 10:32 PM

You make this so funny..but really..didn't see the game, but know LSU was at 96 total yards or so into the 4th quarter .Something like that.



Was he trying to play dead, or what?

dagolfer33 01-09-2012 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by clyde (Post 830452)
You make this so funny..but really..didn't see the game, but know LSU was at 96 total yards or so into the 4th quarter .Something like that.



Was he trying to play dead, or what?

To summarize, our scheme was to run the spread option. The only problem is, Alabamas D is extremely disciplined. They all stayed at home, stuffed the box and shut down LSU. Meanwhile, our D was getting run down staying out on the field all fricking game. When something doesnt work, you have to try something else. Les did not. He was doing **** you normally do when you are winning, like running the ball and running clock when we desperately need to move the ball down the field. We deserved the loss, we probably deserved to lose the last game. If you cant throw the ball, and dont try, you dont deserve to win. This **** worked back in the late 70's and early 80's. It dont work today.

DaTruth 01-09-2012 10:53 PM

How humiliating. Defense and special teams can only carry you so far.

Jefferson looked like he had no interest in being out there. The only time he showed he was even awake was his tackle after the interception. The rest of the time he pouted and shot daggers at his teammates. I don't blame the defense for mailing it in after they kept Alabama out of the end zone and LSU did zilch on offense.

I'm not going to pile on Miles. The guy is a top recruiter and the team is stacked for the future. He also has some QBs coming through who can pass the ball. Miles also has a way of getting the best out of his players. But tonight he was simply out of his league against Saban.

clyde 01-09-2012 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by dagolfer33 (Post 830454)
To summarize, our scheme was to run the spread option. The only problem is, Alabamas D is extremely disciplined. They all stayed at home, stuffed the box and shut down LSU. Meanwhile, our D was getting run down staying out on the field all fricking game. When something doesnt work, you have to try something else. Les did not. He was doing **** you normally do when you are winning, like running the ball and running clock when we desperately need to move the ball down the field. We deserved the loss, we probably deserved to lose the last game. If you cant throw the ball, and dont try, you dont deserve to win. This **** worked back in the late 70's and early 80's. It dont work today.


I got it now...know it too well.


Actually, it was on it's way out during Earl Bruces' days here......Earl didn't know it either.He was called "Old 9-3" for having achieved that record in like 5 of the nine years he was here...maybe 6.


Direct descendants of Bo and Woody should not call plays...nor draw them up.

Nor should they be allowed anywhere near capable oc's.

dagolfer33 01-09-2012 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by DaTruth (Post 830456)
How humiliating. Defense and special teams can only carry you so far.

Jefferson looked like he had no interest in being out there. The only time he showed he was even awake was his tackle after the interception. The rest of the time he pouted and shot daggers at his teammates. I don't blame the defense for mailing it in after they kept Alabama out of the end zone and LSU did zilch on offense.

I'm not going to pile on Miles. The guy is a top recruiter and the team is stacked for the future. He also has some QBs coming through who can pass the ball. Miles also has a way of getting the best out of his players. But tonight he was simply out of his league against Saban.

I have heard from fairly reliable sources Miles asked Lee to go in the last 2 series and he told him to GFH.

DaTruth 01-09-2012 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by dagolfer33 (Post 830458)
I have heard from fairly reliable sources Miles asked Lee to go in the last 2 series and he told him to GFH.

That would be well deserved. I'm partly convinced that they gave up the TD to Richardson to see if Miles would put Lee in the game.

LSU's game plan was so predictable that I wondered if Miles dusted off an old Gary Crowton playbook.

dagolfer33 01-09-2012 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by clyde (Post 830457)
I got it now...know it too well.


Actually, it was on it's way out during Earl Bruces' days here......Earl didn't know it either.He was called "Old 9-3" for having achieved that record in like 5 of the nine years he was here...maybe 6.


Direct descendants of Bo and Woody should not call plays...nor draw them up.

Nor should they be allowed anywhere near capable oc's.

I always think of Dale Brown, great recruiter, great motivator, bad with x's and o's. He wasted some serious talent, and if not for Tex Winter who knows how bad they could have been. This is the same thing. When you have bigger and stronger players, you are going to beat some good teams. Tonight, and on many nights, the gameplan gets an F.

hi_im_god 01-09-2012 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by dagolfer33 (Post 830460)
I always think of Dale Brown, great recruiter, great motivator, bad with x's and o's. He wasted some serious talent, and if not for Tex Winter who knows how bad they could have been. This is the same thing. When you have bigger and stronger players, you are going to beat some good teams. Tonight, and on many nights, the gameplan gets an F.

you've got a really talented 2012 team.

it's not like you're stanford.

chin up. you sucked tonight but the program looks good.

they could play for the championship again in 2013.

dagolfer33 01-09-2012 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by hi_im_god (Post 830461)
you've got a really talented 2012 team.

it's not like you're stanford.

chin up. you sucked tonight but the program looks good.

they could play for the championship again in 2013.

They could, it will depend on who is selected as QB, and what kind of offense is run. This one will not win a National Title. They have the players. Im ready to move on to baseball.

DaTruth 01-09-2012 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by dagolfer33 (Post 830462)
They could, it will depend on who is selected as QB, and what kind of offense is run. This one will not win a National Title. They have the players. Im ready to move on to baseball.

Mettenberger should be pretty good, but he is not very mobile. The one I'm looking forward to seeing play in a few seasons is Philip Rivers' brother.

BigBlue 01-09-2012 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by dagolfer33 (Post 830458)
I have heard from fairly reliable sources Miles asked Lee to go in the last 2 series and he told him to GFH.

I really thought Lee would start the second half.

Although I was pulling hard for LSU, Bama was tough tonight - maybe one of the best collegiate defensive performances that I've ever seen. Auburn needs to start practicing tomorrow.

dagolfer33 01-09-2012 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by DaTruth (Post 830465)
Mettenberger should be pretty good, but he is not very mobile. The one I'm looking forward to seeing play in a few seasons is Philip Rivers' brother.

I agree, I dont know if you watched the Army all star game Saturday, but our prized recruit Kiel threw a pick. I said to the guy I work with, "Les is trying to figure out how to annul that commitment."

hi_im_god 01-09-2012 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by dagolfer33 (Post 830462)
They could, it will depend on who is selected as QB, and what kind of offense is run. This one will not win a National Title. They have the players. Im ready to move on to baseball.

at least you have baseball.

i'm moving on to volleyball. my school dropped division 2 football after i graduated.

i'm just saying things could be worse than rooting for a team that just played for the national championship.

dagolfer33 01-09-2012 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by BigBlue (Post 830466)
I really thought Lee would start the second half.

Although I was pulling hard for LSU, Bama was tough tonight - maybe one of the best collegiate defensive performances that I've ever seen. Auburn needs to start practicing tomorrow.

I knew Lee wasn't coming in. Jefferson has pictures of Les with sheep.

DaTruth 01-09-2012 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by dagolfer33 (Post 830467)
I agree, I dont know if you watched the Army all star game Saturday, but our prized recruit Kiel threw a pick. I said to the guy I work with, "Les is trying to figure out how to annul that commitment."

LOL.

Bigsmc 01-10-2012 04:21 AM

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Originally Posted by nebrady (Post 830439)
Before i hear bama say their the champs, your not. Lsu beat you at your place and shouldn't have to beat you again. All this does is show that we need a playoff and get rid of this BS CRAP! Its a joke and so sick of them saying this is the championship game, its not its the bs chump game. Congrats to lsu, bama and okla state you can all split that stupid crystal football!

Quote:

Originally Posted by nebrady (Post 830444)
the point is no one deserves it! the system is a joke and so is this sham of a game. By the way lsu i'd be pissed if i were you. When do you have to beat a team twice to win it all. You beat bama there and won the conference bama should have been in another bcs sham bowl. No one is champ again.

Let me ask you something, if there was an 8 team playoff, do you think LSU and Bama would be in it? I do.

If both teams are in the playoff, that you think will fix the issue, what happens when they play a second time and Bama wins? Whether its the first round or the final, it will happen where team will have to play another twice. Even in a playoff. So, you need to scrap that one as an argument for a playoff.

I would love to see a playoff too, but using the teams shouldn't have to beat teams twice argument is not the way to go.

Danzig 01-10-2012 04:58 AM

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Originally Posted by BigBlue (Post 830466)
I really thought Lee would start the second half.

Although I was pulling hard for LSU, Bama was tough tonight - maybe one of the best collegiate defensive performances that I've ever seen. Auburn needs to start practicing tomorrow.

lee hasn't played in weeks. with rumors swirling about his eligibility, i have to think he couldn't play. that they let him dress-but weren't going to put him in if it would end up costing the program.


it's too bad that such a great season ended like that. interesting the piling on of les after taking lsu through their best regular season ever. every week he was the mad hatter, not he's crap? yeah, whatever.

Bigsmc 01-10-2012 05:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 830487)
lee hasn't played in weeks. with rumors swirling about his eligibility, i have to think he couldn't play. that they let him dress-but weren't going to put him in if it would end up costing the program.


it's too bad that such a great season ended like that. interesting the piling on of les after taking lsu through their best regular season ever. every week he was the mad hatter, not he's crap? yeah, whatever.

Here? The piling on Les from this board has been going on for years. There has been zero flip-flopping from Dagolfer on the Les topic.

Danzig 01-10-2012 06:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Bigsmc (Post 830489)
Here? The piling on Les from this board has been going on for years. There has been zero flip-flopping from Dagolfer on the Les topic.

oh i know, i just know that people down here gripe about les when he's winning- i can only imagine them now!
as for needing a playoff system-if the same two teams would have been produced, what's the point? most of the time (and some would argue, all the time) the two best teams play for the title.
note-to those who want a playoff system-it's called the nfl.

i worry about changing the bcs system about as much as i worry about whether we are going to win or lose. i have no control over either. enjoy the wins, shrug off the losses. as fans we can do nothing else. many take it far too seriously. it's not life or death, it's entertainment-well, unless you get scorched.

ddthetide 01-10-2012 06:23 AM

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Originally Posted by nebrady (Post 830439)
Lsu beat you at your place

ALABAMA just Rolled Lsu in their backyard.
actually, Bama has Rolled many teams in the superdome! ask miami, psu, ohio st, arkansas.........:tro:

Antitrust32 01-10-2012 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by nebrady (Post 830444)
the point is no one deserves it! the system is a joke and so is this sham of a game. By the way lsu i'd be pissed if i were you. When do you have to beat a team twice to win it all. You beat bama there and won the conference bama should have been in another bcs sham bowl. No one is champ again.

dude LSU just lost a home game to Bama by 21 points. did you watch?

Antitrust32 01-10-2012 08:03 AM

a playoff would be way more fun... but Bama is the deserving NC

ddthetide 01-10-2012 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32 (Post 830505)
a playoff would be way more fun... but Bama is the deserving NC

:tro::tro:

herkhorse 01-10-2012 08:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Antitrust32 (Post 830505)
a playoff would be way more fun... but Bama is the deserving NC

and it would fill the gap. Players were pretty rusty in most of the bowl games.

Bigsmc 01-10-2012 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by ddthetide (Post 830496)
ALABAMA just Rolled Lsu in their backyard.
actually, Bama has Rolled many teams in the superdome! ask miami, psu, ohio st, arkansas.........:tro:

I was at that game in '93 vs Miami. That was quite a scene (from what I can remember :o).

Bigsmc 01-10-2012 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by herkhorse (Post 830509)
and it would fill the gap. Players were pretty rusty in most of the bowl games.

Absolutely right. There is always some pretty piss poor football played in the bowl games. These players are used to a schedule for 13-14 weeks and all of the sudden they have a month+ off. Some handle it better than others, but I have to believe the games would be better without the layoff.

MaTH716 01-10-2012 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Bigsmc (Post 830486)
Let me ask you something, if there was an 8 team playoff, do you think LSU and Bama would be in it? I do.

If both teams are in the playoff, that you think will fix the issue, what happens when they play a second time and Bama wins? Whether its the first round or the final, it will happen where team will have to play another twice. Even in a playoff. So, you need to scrap that one as an argument for a playoff.

I would love to see a playoff too, but using the teams shouldn't have to beat teams twice argument is not the way to go.

:tro::tro:

If there was a playoff Lsu would have been the #1 seed and Alabama would have been the #2 seed. Guess what, they would have ended up in the same place, with LSU getting their teeth kicked in for the National Championship.

ddthetide 01-10-2012 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Bigsmc (Post 830512)
I was at that game in '93 vs Miami. That was quite a scene (from what I can remember :o).

'93 miami was favored by 7 and talked a bunch of junk and got smacked around by the #1 Defense in the country! last night was even, Lsu ran some junk and got smacked around by the #1 defense in the country!! when will they learn? :rolleyes:

clyde 01-10-2012 12:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nebrady (Post 830439)
Before i hear bama say their the champs, your not. Lsu beat you at your place and shouldn't have to beat you again. All this does is show that we need a playoff and get rid of this BS CRAP! Its a joke and so sick of them saying this is the championship game, its not its the bs chump game. Congrats to lsu, bama and okla state you can all split that stupid crystal football!


It is designed primarily for $cha-ching!!$ only.

Once they firgure how to squeeze out more $cha-ching!!$,why...it will be changed.

dagolfer33 01-10-2012 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clyde (Post 830538)
It is designed primarily for $cha-ching!!$ only.

Once they firgure how to squeeze out more $cha-ching!!$,why...it will be changed.

BC$


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