Occupy Wall Street live General Assembly meeting
 

If you want to watch an infamous General Assembly meeting of Occupy Wall Street, you can see it live, here. They are spending some of that half-million they received in donations.

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/wato99...medium=9595523

Love the finger twitch approval of up or down they're using. Reminds me of a trader on Wall Street. LMAO

BTW you remind me of a 25-year-old crow trying to return to the nest for care, only it's a robin's nest you're invading.

You have a bad knee and arthritis, not my fault or anyone else's fault, so YOU pay for that situation and let at least me go to BC with a pocket full of MY money.

I don't care about you, much more your knee or arthritis.

Except you have to make a drunken post pointing out how that's not true? :D

Sorry, Dell - as you've been told before - so many times before, but I know that reality rarely enters your alcohol-fogged mind - no, I no longer have a bad knee (it's been fixed), no I don't have arthritis, and yeah, I paid cash for the surgery.

So your pathetic, drunk attempt to somehow make yourself a victim of .... something ... is a rather big fail. :tro:

BTW - I challenged you to a 5K - you said you could only do 50 yards or so. Have another drink. Looks like my insurance money will pay for your liver. Not very fair, that those of us who take care of ourselves, have to pay for the losers like you in our insurance premiums.

I'm sorry, I thought you were telling the truth when you said you went to an exchange for affordable premiums because of a pre-existing condition of arthritis or the likelihood of arthritis in the future.

And how in the hell will your insurance premiums pay for anything to do with my healthcare? BTW around last Christmas, my heart/organ scan and blood work tested (at my own cost) was perfect. So your imaginary liver disease is just that, imaginary.

Right now, if you were telling the truth and went through an exchange, we’re all paying for yours. Well not those camping on Wall Street but certainly the CEO’s and many others they are protesting against. Instead of constantly whining and complaining why don’t you just quietly say thank you and read a story on how great Sharia law will be in Libya.

And to think you're still a registered republican. :zz:

You are one of the emptiest people I have ever met.

Coming from you?

BarakAllahu feekum!!!

Try to keep up. I'll type slowly for you, Dell:

Insurance companies will often stop insuring you for something you have had in the past. It's called "pre-existing conditions". Although my one joint with arthritis secondary to meniscal injury is literally gone (replaced with titanium), and I have zero other arthritis, and I have resumed 100% complete function as I had prior to injury, the insurance company will no longer insure me for any "osteoarthritis" in the future.

Do you think that's fair? That if, 25 years from now, I develop arthritis in a hip, the insurance company should not have to cover it?

And no. You are not paying for me. I am paying for me. You've never seemed able to understand what health care was actually passed, compared to what Erik Erikson and Andrew Brietbart and Faux News have told you to think, even though it's been explained to you multiple times. Your deliberate and proud ignorance, your deliberate and repetitive misstating of facts that have long been in existence for other people, explains alot of your posts.

You are more prone to develop arthritis because of titanium in your knee and although you should not be refused coverage for future arthritis treatment you certainly should pay a higher rate than someone without a titanium knee.

You seem to think setting up these exchanges was magic, free or that the Department of Health and Human Services is a non-profit charity. True fellow citizens of KY will ultimately be responsible for subsidizing your care directly I will be subsidizing those whom the government deems deserving of such including Kentuckians.

No, Dell. You are not "more prone to develop arthritis" in a titanium knee because there's no bone. Duh. A traumatic injury (meniscal tear) that results in localized arthritis has nothing at all to do with the possible development of "old age" arthritis elsewhere, such as a hip or wrist, a couple decades down the line.

Why should I pay a higher rate for future unassociated illnesses that develop due to different causation because I was once injured, but am now fixed and healthy?

That is exactly the type of consumer fraud the PPACA is intending to prevent.

No, I don't. I know exactly how they are set up, and who is paying for them (the people IN them), and who is administering them.

You, on the other hand, are filled with nonsensical imaginary musings over what "Obamacare" is, and your factual knowledge of the PPACA has been repeatedly demonstrated to be non-existent, consisting only of your imaginary musings.

And the worse thing is that you simply, deliberately, frankly, refuse to learn the facts about what is actually in it, preferring to spit out, over and over, your nonsensical imaginary talking points.

Like you just did. Again.


No. Only in your fevered, anti-Obama imagination.

This 'meeting' on Occupy Wall St. speaks volumes!

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/vid...rotesters.html

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Couple of questions come to mind.

Are the vagrants, criminals and other freeloaders part of the 99% or 1%?

And are the Occupy Wall Streeters against providing food to vagrants, criminals and freeloaders or just THEIR food?

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/m...hpa8MSYIL9xSDL

I think their opposition is toward the fact that they are working extremely hard and feel taken advantage of by some. Sorta like the reason behind the protests in the first place. Whenever you have a protest movement, you are bound to attract a certain amount of folks that are there purely for their own self interest (in this case free food and maybe a chance to steal from other protestors). Unfortunate on two levels, first because these folks take advantage of the situation and second because it give fuel to those looking for reasons to oppose the movement. Sorta like using the fact that a few welfare recipients take advantage of the system to cast anyone on welfare as a degenerate loser (you are familiar with that logic, aren't you?). In the 60's the Civil Rights Movement and later the Peace Movement saw the same thing...were there anarchists and communists who became involved in both movements...sure. But they were used by those in power to degrade entire movements....just ask J. Edgar Hoover.

The article makes it clear, they are becoming the 98% for now. Not liking the bottom 1% either. Soon it will be "we are the 50%" followed shortly by the ever popular, "looking out for number 1". People are people.

Sigh ... the "usual menu of organic chicken and vegetables, spaghetti bolognese, and roasted beet and sheep’s-milk-cheese salad" crap was disproven as a lie. You know, by people who went to the park and saw what is being fed?

Dell, when are you going to open your eyes, and start making up your own mind? Instead of so willingly being told what to think without question?

The "mainstream media" has been overtly lying about OWS, especially what happened in Oakland, and you'd think a willing conspiracy theorist believer like you would pick up on that.

The mainstream corporate-owned media has been successfully circumvented by YouTube, Twitter and Facebook. The police attack against the Oakland protesters was shown live, thus when they lied in the press conferences there was already video out there proving them liars. They don't like being shown up, and shown as incompetent or liars.

I wonder if there are any protestors who fall just outside the top 1%? I think it is comical for anyone making over say $250k a year to think they are united in an economic struggle with common folks.

Data survey of 1,619 respondents placed on occupywallst.org reveals the following about OWS supporters:

* 64.2% are younger than 34 years of age.
* One in three respondents is older than 35, one in five respondents is 45 and older.

* 7.9% of respondents have a high school degree or less.
* 92.1% of the sample has some college, a college degree, or a graduate degree.
* 27.4% have some college (but no degree), 35% have a college degree, 8.2% have some graduate school (but no degree), close to 21.5% have a graduate school degree.
* This is a highly educated sample.

* 26.7% of respondents were enrolled in school, 73.3% were not enrolled in school.

* 50.4% were employed full-time, an additional 20.4% were employed part-time.
* 13.1% of the sample are unemployed.

* 2.6% of respondents were retired, 1.3% disabled, 2.6% homemakers and 9.7% are full-time students.

* 47.5% of the sample earns less than $24,999 dollars a year and another quarter (24%) earn between $25,000 and $49,999 per year.
* 71.5% of the sample earns less than $50,000 per year.
* 15.4% of the sample earned between $50,000 and $74,999.
* The remainder 13% of the sample earn over $75,000 with close to 2% earning over $150,000 per year.

* 27.3% of respondents considered themselves Democrats, another 2.4% said they were Republican.
* A very large proportion of the sample, close to 70.3%, considered themselves Independents.

United? No. Struggle? absolutely. Two friends of mine. A divorced guy who lives (lived) in Manhattan, with two kids and an ex-wife to support is struggling more than most just to to maintain. What about another who makes his 250K+ as a Doctor and is therefore saddled by 300K+ in debt? Not to mention the insane insurance premiums he needs to pay in order to practice medicine. It is all relative really.
The numbers are different but the old saying "mo' money, mo' problems" was made up by successful poor people for a reason.

^^^^^^^^coming from a person who bases here judgment on muslim arranged marriages on a couple of grad students she knows.

Bump!

what's your point? Are these the people who decided against feeding those 'lower' than them? Or are they just against their 'chefs'?

sorry bumped my bump but this is too good

DaTruth wrote: I wonder if there are any protestors who fall just outside the top 1%? I think it is comical for anyone making over say $250k a year to think they are united in an economic struggle with common folks.

Not "only", no, you're wrong (again), but you are only able to think in the simplest and most broad, black-white, simplistic terms, so that's not surprising.

Yes, I have talked to Muslims I know about their religion, and about arranged marriages.

Your base your judgment of arranged Muslim marriages has been obtained from right-wing hate sites and from what people tell you to think. Not a very strong base to criticize others :D

Don't forget, Dell: Carter sucks!

Actually, it's easier to go to occupywallstreet.org, and read the "general meeting" minutes, to see what they really decided to do about the homeless and Wall Street types partaking of the free meals.

Geesh, Dell: instead of reading other people's opinions on OWS to tell you what to think, why don't you try to experience them yourself, and make up your own mind? Watch OWS live on the internet, read a blog from someone there, etc. It's a social phenomenon. You can learn about it without catching cooties or having to be definitively "pro" or "con" about it.

Try this: Occupy Wall Street daily roundup, Day 41 http://www.dailykos.com

In a move done to personally infuriate Dell, OccupyOakland dismantled the police barricades to the park, and turned them into art. The mayor has promised to keep the cops away, and she is meeting with the protesters. There is a $1000 reward for anyone who will ID the cop that shot Scott Olsen (who is now in fair condition, and will have surgery on his brain fracture in a few days, still on respirator)

And in a very, "Atlas Shrugged" moment, Occupy Oakland voted overwhelmingly for a general strike next Wednesday in Oakland, in retaliation against police violence.

Rita, is there a way you could Occupy NoAdvantage?

^^^^Very confused group whose protest started over jobs evolved into 99% v. 1% and now has come full circle and those with jobs are going to strike. That's Brilliant.:zz: If one doesn't have a job or is homeless do they strike by finding work and shelter or is it just another normal day for them.

Almost as much confusion as the Occupy NY group now complaining vagrants and 'the professional homeless are eating their food. :tro:

I now understand Riot's infacuation and lust for these 1/2 percenters.

i recommend anyone wondering why there are occupy wall street protests to go to
nytimes.com and go to the opinion page. look for 'anybody hear the one about the banker?' by thomas friedman, and read it excellent op ed piece.

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here's the link

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/30/op...=1&ref=opinion

for those wondering who John Paulson is (20th richest american and who made $5 billion shorting bad mortgage paper) I found this.....


http://thehill.com/blogs/on-the-mone...ocratic-donor-

The fact that Bush AND Obama bailed out these banks together shows me why people should be Occupying Wall Street. No more government interference/involvement in anything but governing is what I'd cheer. And F*ck Free Diapers! You can't afford 'em don't have 'em. Period!

Of course I need to work mon-thur next week so I can't make it in person.

thanks for putting that up...wasn't able to from my phone.

yet another reason why i say that both parties suck. both were involved in getting rid of glass/steagall, which so many feel is what opened us up to what we're dealing with now-and of course europe as well. we removed it so as not to lose ground to them, and now look at where we all are. brilliant. govt is supposed to be of the people, not just the people who have money to buy their way to becoming 'too big to fail'. there's a reason rules were in place to keep banks from crossing the lines they've since crossed.

Greenspan and Rubin are largely responsible for getting rid of glass/steagall under Clinton. Just wanted to give credit where credit is due.

The government's (Barney Frank/Maxine Waters in particular) belief everyone should own a home and not just bailing out but backing Freddie and Fannie coupled with mortgages featuring 'no money down, money back at signing' or 'refinance now for 125% of your home's value' the bubble was blown up to the point it had no where to go but burst.

The mortgages Citibank put together that caused the fine should have put numerous people in jail for lengthy sentences. Martha Stewart goes away for under a 100K and these people did 100s and 100s of millions?

Then when you have a President, campaigning for a second term, going out to colleges and instead of offering a chicken dinner and ride to the polls is simply handing/throwing out the 'peoples' money and forgiving debts owed to the 'people' saying I need your vote, we're screwed twice.

i think heloc's have had more affect than anything. people were living on a line of credit that dried up immediately when the housing bubble burst. then they were really underwater and unable to pay their debts, since they no longer had equity-that probably didn't really exist to begin with. for many, a house payment is lower than rent, so i don't really buy that people couldn't make their payments. no bank is going to loan you if you don't have the income it would take.
between arm's and heloc, people had just bitten off more than they could chew. then there were banks, such as the one listed above, who sold toxic mortgages and then made more money banking on that loss. what did that do to the duped buyers who thought they were getting something they weren't?

as for naming names of pols, that's a waste of time. the majority of both parties backed getting rid of those rules that were there for a reason. they were bought and paid for, or just stupid.

another good op-ed piece on the OWS protesters with a Monty Python clip. :)

In part

http://www.americanthinker.com/2011/...or_dunces.html

Yes, because if you can't pay back your student loan in 25 years, too bad! Keep paying, even if you are using your Social Security funds to do so :eek: And yes, Dell, that sure sounds like voter bribery to me: "In 25 years, if your student loan isn't paid back because there are not enough jobs that pay enough for you to pay it back, we may forgive the remaining outstanding amount under certain narrow circumstances which includes your having paid for most of it already and being current on your payments"

Nobody can deliberately or ignorantly mischaracterize the truth or facts like you, Dell.

Better we have the utterly moronic Republican candidates Romney, Cain and Perry, all with "tax plans" that give massive tax breaks to the wealthy, while increasing the taxes on everyone else, even those too poor to now have to pay taxes.

In other OWS news, the ACLU has started filing multiple lawsuits in several cities over clear instances of police brutality, unconstitutional infringement on the right of freedom of speech, unwarranted arrests and harassment of peaceful protesters, illegal curfew and infringement on public rights, etc.

This country does seem to have changed since 9/11, with clear infringement on our constitutional rights happening regularly. Some of these arrests are just crazy - the citizens are literally not doing anything illegal.

Over 2700 people have been arrested nationally associated with Occupy movement. Most are requesting jury trials, as is their right under the Constitution. Free legal aid is available to all Occupy arrestees.

The mainstream press is still not covering most of what is happening with Occupy, thus blogs, websites, twitter, facebook and Youtube are the most reliable and current "press sources" for information. The "Occupy" movement has gone international, with Occupy London active and a lightning rod for controversy due to their encampment outside a church (causing resignations within the clergy), etc. and many Occupy in the middle east.

In Tennessee, a reporter covering an Occupy event was dragged and arrested, even though he was press. The police officer (state Trooper no less) arresting him lied on the police report and said he was resisting arrest and intoxicated at the time.

Unfortunately for the lying arresting Tennessee State Trooper, the reporter was using his hand camera to film and get audio of the rally, and the Trooper took it from the reporter, but left it on and stuck it back in the reporters pocket - the unedited video/audio proving the Trooper to be an outright liar about it all.
http://www.tennessean.com/interactiv...e-arrest-video

The hacker group Anonymous has said that Nov 5, they will take down the Fox News website, as Fox News has been lying so much about Occupy. They also said they'd take Facebook down the same day. Oh, those young kids!
http://www.thewrap.com/media/column-...fox-news-32234

and in more news. Sexual assaults hit OWS.

Riot, they gonna be OK?

Decide a percentage and charge everyone the same, no deductions. At 15% someone making $5 billion like that Dem Paulson guy will pay 750 million while someone making 5K on welfare will pay will pay 750 bucks. 750 mill v. 750 bucks. That's fair!

I dunno. Why don't you ask the right-wing websites that seem to be the only ones reporting that outsiders are going in to assault protesters? I mean, with 10-15 police officers stationed at Zuccotti at all times, seems reasonable.

Lets us know what Andrew Breitbart and Erick Ericksson tell you to think ;)

Well, not if you think that regressive taxes that impact the poorest more greatly than the richest are most certainly not "fair" in the least. You know, increasing the tax rate for the poorest, while massively decreasing it for the wealthiest?

Oh yeah: and every single "flat tax" proposal out there takes income away from the government. Massive income cuts. I guess that's okay for the selfish and unAmerican that don't want the government to actually, you know, do anything for Americans.

But hey, you wanna support starting to tax people that are now considered too poor to have to pay federal taxes, you go with it, and see how far it takes you :tro:

So not only will they be OK but the whole attack(s) were made up? :zz:

not breibart, not some right wing blog/website but none other than the NY Post!

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/m...nspzJ7VGC9nJZP