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somerfrost 07-16-2011 07:31 PM

Nancy Grace
 
Just curious, does anyone else find this woman as offensive as I do? It's one thing to be opinionated and even sarcastic but this gal comes across just plain mean spirited...then again, maybe it's just me.

clyde 07-16-2011 07:44 PM

She's a genuine witch.



Halloween mask manufacturers would make millions if they could duplicate her wretch face.

GBBob 07-16-2011 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by somerfrost (Post 792091)
Just curious, does anyone else find this woman as offensive as I do? It's one thing to be opinionated and even sarcastic but this gal comes across just plain mean spirited...then again, maybe it's just me.

Mean spirited? That's a compliment..She's a piece of sh.t

somerfrost 07-16-2011 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by GBBob (Post 792101)
Mean spirited? That's a compliment..She's a piece of sh.t

OK, it's not just me then. I don't mind folks with strong opinions who are direct but she really bugs me.

Danzig 07-16-2011 09:17 PM

can't stand her. she makes me cringe. i don't even like to hear her advertisements on the radio.

mclem0822 07-16-2011 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by GBBob (Post 792101)
Mean spirited? That's a compliment..She's a piece of sh.t

Bob, i have a ton of respect for you. We see eye to eye on on political issues in particular. But with all due respect i have to disagree with you here sir. When Nancy Grace was 19 her fiance was murdered. Since then through her work as a prosecutor, and with her show she's been a victim's advocate. I know she comes across hostile, but in my opinion it's because these cases get to her. I think her show does an important job to shed light on both high profile cases, and ones that the media doesn't give enough attention to. So Bob, i think the characterization is unfair, of course i do not know the lady personally, but this is just from what i have seen in the past of her show. As well as what i have read about her, i think she is a caring advocate for victims.

GBBob 07-16-2011 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by mclem0822 (Post 792139)
Bob, i have a ton of respect for you. We see eye to eye on on political issues in particular. But with all due respect i have to disagree with you here sir. When Nancy Grace was 19 her fiance was murdered. Since then through her work as a prosecutor, and with her show she's been a victim's advocate. I know she comes across hostile, but in my opinion it's because these cases get to her. I think her show does an important job to shed light on both high profile cases, and ones that the media doesn't give enough attention to. So Bob, i think the characterization is unfair, of course i do not know the lady personally, but this is just from what i have seen in the past of her show. As well as what i have read about her, i think she is a caring advocate for victims.

Being a victom's advocate is admirable and necessary..and I respect/understand what you are saying. But she is in a position that walks a line between being a reporter of facts and an advocate for the victim. In my mind, she is a ratings hound who will say whatever it takes to get ratings. Casey Anthony, based on the the evidence presented, was rightfully found innocent. But Grace's ego and her agenda is too biased to understand that.

Calzone Lord 07-17-2011 06:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GBBob (Post 792140)
Casey Anthony, based on the the evidence presented, was rightfully found innocent.

I laughed.

dellinger63 07-17-2011 08:19 AM

Can't stand her. She reminds me of Gloria Aldred.

Princess Doreen 07-17-2011 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by GBBob (Post 792140)
Being a victom's advocate is admirable and necessary..and I respect/understand what you are saying. But she is in a position that walks a line between being a reporter of facts and an advocate for the victim. In my mind, she is a ratings hound who will say whatever it takes to get ratings. Casey Anthony, based on the the evidence presented, was rightfully found innocent. But Grace's ego and her agenda is too biased to understand that.

CA was found Not Guilty which does not neccessarily equate to being found innocent. Sortakinda like OJ.

Calzone Lord 07-17-2011 04:35 PM

Quick review of the Casey Anthony saga....

Her kid disappears and she says nothing. A month (as in like 30 friggen days) later the grandma calls police and Casey begins to tell the first in a series of lies regarding her daughter's whereabouts.

First it's this fictitious nanny then it is a fictitious boyfriend in Jacksonville. Then her car smells like something died in it and cadaver dogs key in on it. Then she's borrowing a shovel - as if this skanky whore has ever done any gardening before in her worthless life. Then the child's body is found with traces of duct tape over her mouth.

All the while that her child - that's right HER FUCl<ING CHILD!!!! (who's the father by the way?) - is missing ... she's out whoring it up, and getting tattoo's - and bringing her friggen digiital camera along with her to capture it all.

But no, GBBOB thinks little Caylee ran off into the woods where she put duct tape over her own mouth, hopped in a garbage bag, and suffocated herself.

And - don't give me any of this bullsh!t about how she drowned in a pool on accident and the grandparents tried to cover it up. P. T. Barnum wouldn't even believe people would accept that sh!t.

Oh, and I love how the defense lawyers dressed that baby killing whore Casey up like a Mormon Librarian EVERY. FUCl<ING. DAY. of that trial! And, out of thin air, they accused Casey's father (a cop no less!) and brother of repeatedly raping her over and over - talk about resorting to anything to win!

Anyway, if you're a white hottie in this society, you can get away with anything you want -- just so long as someone doesn't catch you doing it on tape.

If it was a man, black chick, or ugly white chick in Casey's place ... life in prison at best.... and no one would give a flying fucl< about the case either.

Calzone Lord 07-17-2011 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Princess Doreen (Post 792193)
CA was found Not Guilty which does not neccessarily equate to being found innocent. Sortakinda like OJ.

What do you expect from 12 people stupid enough to not figure out a way to get out of jury duty?

somerfrost 07-17-2011 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Calzone Lord (Post 792345)
Quick review of the Casey Anthony saga....

Her kid disappears and she says nothing. A month (as in like 30 friggen days) later the grandma calls police and Casey begins to tell the first in a series of lies regarding her daughter's whereabouts.

First it's this fictitious nanny then it is a fictitious boyfriend in Jacksonville. Then her car smells like something died in it and cadaver dogs key in on it. Then she's borrowing a shovel - as if this skanky whore has ever done any gardening before in her worthless life. Then the child's body is found with traces of duct tape over her mouth.

All the while that her child - that's right HER FUCl<ING CHILD!!!! (who's the father by the way?) - is missing ... she's out whoring it up, and getting tattoo's - and bringing her friggen digiital camera along with her to capture it all.

But no, GBBOB thinks little Caylee ran off into the woods where she put duct tape over her own mouth, hopped in a garbage bag, and suffocated herself.

And - don't give me any of this bullsh!t about how she drowned in a pool on accident and the grandparents tried to cover it up. P. T. Barnum wouldn't even believe people would accept that sh!t.

Oh, and I love how the defense lawyers dressed that baby killing whore Casey up like a Mormon Librarian EVERY. FUCl<ING. DAY. of that trial! And, out of thin air, they accused Casey's father (a cop no less!) and brother of repeatedly raping her over and over - talk about resorting to anything to win!

Anyway, if you're a white hottie in this society, you can get away with anything you want -- just so long as someone doesn't catch you doing it on tape.

If it was a man, black chick, or ugly white chick in Casey's place ... life in prison at best.... and no one would give a flying fucl< about the case either.

Don't recall Bob ever saying he thought she was innocent, he merely said the state failed to prove their case. Your emotional tirade calling names and acting like you are so outraged aside, the jury had an extremely difficult call and given this was a death penalty case, erred perhaps on the side of caution. There are a huge number of unanswered questions here and that made it difficult to "connect the dots". Absolutely no question that her behavior was the strongest part of the state's case but unless you've sat on a jury in a death penalty case, it seems all to easy to call the jury names. I'm glad I didn't have to give up 6 weeks of my life and then make this decision. I understand the anger because it's horrible that this sweet innocent little girl died before her life hardly began but instead of calling folks names, this is a time to respect the best legal system in the world...best not perfect.

Calzone Lord 07-17-2011 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by somerfrost (Post 792356)
unless you've sat on a jury in a death penalty case.

I don't believe in the death penalty - for anyone under any circumstances - so that fact alone would have got me DQ'd from the jury.

And if it wasn't a death penalty case - I would have got myself excused some other way. Jury duty is for idiots and suckers.

somerfrost 07-17-2011 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Calzone Lord (Post 792359)
I don't believe in the death penalty - for anyone under any circumstances - so that fact alone would have got me DQ'd from the jury.

And if it wasn't a death penalty case - I would have got myself excused some other way. Jury duty is for idiots and suckers.

well, some folks think it's a responsibility of citizenship. Look, I'm not trying to pick a fight, this was an emotional case and most folks believe as you do that the verdict was wrong. I disagree but please don't assume I'm saying I think she was innocent.

somerfrost 07-17-2011 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Calzone Lord (Post 792359)
I don't believe in the death penalty - for anyone under any circumstances - so that fact alone would have got me DQ'd from the jury.

And if it wasn't a death penalty case - I would have got myself excused some other way. Jury duty is for idiots and suckers.

I agree with you 100% on the death penalty by the way.

Calzone Lord 07-17-2011 05:25 PM

Time to re-think my position.

GBBob 07-17-2011 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Calzone Lord (Post 792345)
Quick review of the Casey Anthony saga....

Her kid disappears and she says nothing. A month (as in like 30 friggen days) later the grandma calls police and Casey begins to tell the first in a series of lies regarding her daughter's whereabouts.

First it's this fictitious nanny then it is a fictitious boyfriend in Jacksonville. Then her car smells like something died in it and cadaver dogs key in on it. Then she's borrowing a shovel - as if this skanky whore has ever done any gardening before in her worthless life. Then the child's body is found with traces of duct tape over her mouth.

All the while that her child - that's right HER FUCl<ING CHILD!!!! (who's the father by the way?) - is missing ... she's out whoring it up, and getting tattoo's - and bringing her friggen digiital camera along with her to capture it all.

But no, GBBOB thinks little Caylee ran off into the woods where she put duct tape over her own mouth, hopped in a garbage bag, and suffocated herself.

And - don't give me any of this bullsh!t about how she drowned in a pool on accident and the grandparents tried to cover it up. P. T. Barnum wouldn't even believe people would accept that sh!t.

Oh, and I love how the defense lawyers dressed that baby killing whore Casey up like a Mormon Librarian EVERY. FUCl<ING. DAY. of that trial! And, out of thin air, they accused Casey's father (a cop no less!) and brother of repeatedly raping her over and over - talk about resorting to anything to win!

Anyway, if you're a white hottie in this society, you can get away with anything you want -- just so long as someone doesn't catch you doing it on tape.

If it was a man, black chick, or ugly white chick in Casey's place ... life in prison at best.... and no one would give a flying fucl< about the case either.

Did she do it..probably yeah, but did they prove it Mr. Grace, no. Love the passion though:rolleyes:

Calzone Lord 07-17-2011 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by GBBob (Post 792405)
Did she do it..probably yeah, but did they prove it Mr. Grace, no. Love the passion though:rolleyes:

An honor if you're confusing me with the former Cubs first-baseman.

Prove it beyond a reasonable doubt? Or prove it as in having the sh!t on video tape because some people don't think a pretty white little whore would ever kill a little child of her own?

Put a man in that position - I'd love to see a man making up lies about how his (former cop) father and brother raped him - sure, the jury would buy that.

If I ever go to trial for anything. I'm dressing like a Mormon on patrol at the Church library - and acusing everyone of raping me.

GBBob 07-17-2011 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Calzone Lord (Post 792408)
An honor if you're confusing me with the former Cubs first-baseman.

Prove it beyond a reasonable doubt? Or prove it as in having the sh!t on video tape because some people don't think a pretty white little whore would ever kill a little child of her own?

Put a man in that position - I'd love to see a man making up lies about how his (former cop) father and brother raped him - sure, the jury would buy that.

If I ever go to trial for anything. I'm dressing like a Mormon on patrol at the Church library - and acusing everyone of raping me.

Two different...well three things if you bring the Cubs into it. This is about Nancy Grace....1) she has an agenda and showing both sides of the story isn't included 2) The DA was horrible 3) THE Cubs still suck

Calzone Lord 07-17-2011 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by GBBob (Post 792413)
Two different...well three things if you bring the Cubs into it. This is about Nancy Grace....1) she has an agenda and showing both sides of the story isn't included 2) The DA was horrible 3) THE Cubs still suck

If you're talking about the Cubs of the late 80's and early 90's ... you sir, are truly no gentleman.

GBBob 07-17-2011 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Calzone Lord (Post 792415)
If you're talking about the Cubs of the late 80's and early 90's ... you sir, are truly no gentleman.

Top Royelle's first is getting bigger

Calzone Lord 07-17-2011 09:06 PM

yearling?

GBBob 07-18-2011 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Calzone Lord (Post 792433)
yearling?

Yep..

2010 Foal: Dehere Filly
2011: Cactus Ridge Colt
2012: Pregnant to Desert Party

Antitrust32 07-18-2011 08:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GBBob (Post 792140)
Casey Anthony, based on the the evidence presented, was rightfully found innocent. .

rightfully? there is nothing right about letting a woman who dumped her childs body in a swamp walk away. Its one of the sickest things ive ever seen/read.

GBBob 07-18-2011 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32 (Post 792491)
rightfully? there is nothing right about letting a woman who dumped her childs body in a swamp walk away. Its one of the sickest things ive ever seen/read.

They didn't prove a damn thing Lori...I'm not saying she's innocent or isn't evil, but you have to seperate emotion from what happened in court. If you hadn't read anything about this case prior or let that blowhard Nancy Grace pontificate nightly as biased as she was and strictly went by what happened in court, I think you might have voted not guilty as well.

This is different than OJ. He should have been found guilty based on what was presented in court.

I have no sympathy, respect or feelings for that Mom at all.

Antitrust32 07-18-2011 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by GBBob (Post 792495)
They didn't prove a damn thing Lori...I'm not saying she's innocent or isn't evil, but you have to seperate emotion from what happened in court. If you hadn't read anything about this case prior or let that blowhard Nancy Grace pontificate nightly as biased as she was and strictly went by what happened in court, I think you might have voted not guilty as well.

This is different than OJ. He should have been found guilty based on what was presented in court.

I have no sympathy, respect or feelings for that Mom at all.

there was plenty of circumstensial (Sp?) evidence for a neglect or aggravated manslaughter guilty verdict. There might not have been enough for a 1st degree murder verdict, but I think the jury failed by not getting a manslaughter verdict.... which is somewhat of the prosecutions fault for not focusing on that charge and putting all their energy towards 1st degree murder.

Antitrust32 07-18-2011 10:04 AM

in my opinion, the prosecution proved beyond reasonable doubt that there was a dead body in Casey's car. that, accompanied with her behavior and lack of calling the police, along with finding the body right near the home where she had been staying with duct tape and other materials that came from the home... it would have been impossible for me to have let her walk out of jail without a manslaughter charge. If I was on that jury, we'd still be debating, I would have made it a hung jury before I let her walk. What I think sucks is half of the jurors wanted to convict her on manslaughter.. but they were too weak and let her walk.

Calzone Lord 07-18-2011 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by GBBob (Post 792495)
They didn't prove a damn thing Lori....

Yes - all because the medical examiner couldn't conclusively determine a cause of death.

I guess Scott Peterson should have also walked as well?

Oh wait, you wouldn't hit it.

Calzone Lord 07-18-2011 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by GBBob (Post 792489)
Yep..

2010 Foal: Dehere Filly
2011: Cactus Ridge Colt
2012: Pregnant to Desert Party

Looking forward to seeing them run.

All stallions who were precocious horses I see.

rpncaine 07-18-2011 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Calzone Lord (Post 792408)
An honor if you're confusing me with the former Cubs first-baseman.

Prove it beyond a reasonable doubt? Or prove it as in having the sh!t on video tape because some people don't think a pretty white little whore would ever kill a little child of her own?

Put a man in that position - I'd love to see a man making up lies about how his (former cop) father and brother raped him - sure, the jury would buy that.

If I ever go to trial for anything. I'm dressing like a Mormon on patrol at the Church library - and acusing everyone of raping me.

Pictures please....

Calzone Lord 07-18-2011 11:18 AM

Even my dead Grandmother's think this was a little old-fashioned.


somerfrost 07-18-2011 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Calzone Lord (Post 792520)
Yes - all because the medical examiner couldn't conclusively determine a cause of death.

I guess Scott Peterson should have also walked as well?

Oh wait, you wouldn't hit it.

I doubt Bob has any interest in "hitting it", I know being with a woman who may well be a sociopath doesn't interest me. The state had no cause of death, no time, date or place of death, what exactly is the smell of human decomp? The motive was weak as Ms Anthony had plenty of opportunities to party while her daughter was alive, what suddenly changed? Peterson had a concrete motive and there was more evidence. The result leaves a bad taste but the jury didn't allow TV talking heads to make their decision, they made their own for better or worse. That's the way the system is supposed to work. The state overcharged going for capital murder.

Calzone Lord 07-18-2011 11:30 AM

We are all just a figment of Somerfrost's imagination.

somerfrost 07-18-2011 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Calzone Lord (Post 792526)
Even my dead Grandmother's think this was a little old-fashioned.


Defense lawyers almost always counsel their clients to dress conservative, even to wear pink...apparently research has shown juries like that. Doubt that had a real impact but it's certainly common practice...hell, gangbangers always show up in court wearing suits, fresh haircuts etc.

somerfrost 07-18-2011 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Calzone Lord (Post 792531)
We are all just a figment of Somerfrost's imagination.

Yep, take the lazy way out...

Calzone Lord 07-18-2011 11:31 AM

Die in a fire.

somerfrost 07-18-2011 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Calzone Lord (Post 792534)
Die in a fire.

Live long and prosper...

Cannon Shell 07-18-2011 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Calzone Lord (Post 792526)
Even my dead Grandmother's think this was a little old-fashioned.


The fashion police should have charged her after wearing this. Actually it looks a little like something Nick Canani wears.

GBBob 07-18-2011 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Calzone Lord (Post 792520)
Yes - all because the medical examiner couldn't conclusively determine a cause of death.

I guess Scott Peterson should have also walked as well?

Oh wait, you wouldn't hit it.

I think I'd rather hit Scott Peterson


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