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Scav 06-14-2011 10:27 AM

New Breeders Cup race announced
 
Just watching TVG right now and they just popped in saying that there is gonna be a 2 year old sprint on the card now.

randallscott35 06-14-2011 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Scav (Post 784383)
Just watching TVG right now and they just popped in saying that there is gonna be a 2 year old turf sprint on the card now.

You have to be kidding me.

Kasept 06-14-2011 10:32 AM

JUVENILE SPRINT RACE ADDED TO BREEDERS’CUP WORLD CHAMPIONSHIPS;*TWO-DAY RACING EXTRAVAGANZA EXPANDS TO 15 RACES*

LEXINGTON, Ky.* (June 14, 2011) – The Breeders’ Cup announced today that a new race, the Breeders’ Cup Juvenile Sprint, has been added to the Breeders’ Cup World Championships beginning this year at Churchill Downs in Louisville, Ky. The Breeders’ Cup Juvenile Sprint will be run as a six furlong race open to 2-year-old colts, geldings and fillies, and will be contested on the main track for a purse of $500,000. The new race will have a maximum of 14 starters.*The Breeders’ Cup Juvenile Sprint becomes the 15th race of the two-day, $26 million Breeders’ Cup World Championships, which will be held November 4-5 at Churchill Downs. The new race will be run on Friday, November 4.*The creation of Juvenile Sprint was developed through the combined efforts of Breeders’ Cup Wagering Committee, chaired by David Willmot, and the Breeders’ Cup Racing and Nominations Committee, chaired by Clem Murphy.*“Our goal in the Wagering Committee focused on creating a Breeders’ Cup race that would generate not only betting interest for the public but also provide an additional opportunity for the two year old crop from which our owners and breeders could benefit.” said Willmot. “A six furlong sprint race for Juveniles has the potential to provide highly competitive fields in this new division.”*Murphy commented: “In discussions with horsemen on selecting a new race, an overwhelming majority requested that we add a Juvenile Sprint to the Championships program. There are a number of talented 2-year-old sprinters around the world who are not suited or may not be ready to run the two turns at 1 1/16 miles of the Juvenile or Juvenile Fillies in early November. The Juvenile Sprint provides horsemen with an alternative.”*This is the first expansion of the World Championships program since 2008, when the number of races was increased from 11 to 14 for the 25th running at Santa Anita Park.The Breeders’ Cup began in 1984 with seven races and purses of $10 million. An eighth race, the Breeders’ Cup Filly and Mare Turf, was added in 1999. The Breeders’ Cup was expanded to 11 races for the 2007 running at Monmouth Park.**Total purses for the two-day Championships this year will remain at $26 million, which includes purses for the undercard races on both days. The purse of this year’s Sentient Jet Breeders’ Cup Sprint will be $1.5 million. It was contested at a $2 million purse in 2010

NTamm1215 06-14-2011 10:35 AM

It's going to be interesting to see what kind of fields they get. The entry box wasn't exactly full for the juvenile races last year. The races being on dirt basically negate European participation and the 2YO 6f races from days gone by have been phased out (Cowdin, and the filly one). Trainers won't be in a hurry to cut 2YOs back for a purse that's the same as the Breeders' Futurity and only slightly more than the Champagne.

blackthroatedwind 06-14-2011 10:39 AM

Is today April 1st?

randallscott35 06-14-2011 10:41 AM

I think a Breeders Cup race for Grays is coming. A matter of time.

lemoncrush 06-14-2011 10:49 AM

Is Wesley Ward on the Breeders Cup board of directors?

This is a ridiculous idea.
:confused:

randallscott35 06-14-2011 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by lemoncrush (Post 784401)
Is Wesley Ward on the Breeders Cup board of directors?

This is a ridiculous idea.
:confused:

If that were true the BC would be held in April at KEE.

Dahoss 06-14-2011 10:51 AM

Instead of Chapa I think some of the people on the Breeders Cup Committee need a drug test.

randallscott35 06-14-2011 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 784403)
Instead of Chapa I think some of the people on the Breeders Cup Committee need a drug test.

Or the buzzer/tazer.

hockey2315 06-14-2011 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by NTamm1215 (Post 784388)
It's going to be interesting to see what kind of fields they get. The entry box wasn't exactly full for the juvenile races last year. The races being on dirt basically negate European participation and the 2YO 6f races from days gone by have been phased out (Cowdin, and the filly one). Trainers won't be in a hurry to cut 2YOs back for a purse that's the same as the Breeders' Futurity and only slightly more than the Champagne.

I can't imagine this race not drawing an overflow field and being a very good betting event. . .

jms62 06-14-2011 10:58 AM

I also thought a 2 day format was a bad decision until I had the chance to bet full graded stakes fields for 2 days. It is now an event that I don't want changed. I agree with Hockey...

randallscott35 06-14-2011 10:59 AM

I have to say, I still wish the BC was one day...I guess I'm the only one left.

MaTH716 06-14-2011 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35 (Post 784410)
I have to say, I still wish the BC was one day...I guess I'm the only one left.

I like the one day format also.

Travis Stone 06-14-2011 11:00 AM

From a business perspective, races with the "Breeders' Cup" brand handle way more than a nondescript undercard stake.... significantly so. So the spreadsheet side of the decision makes sense.

From a personal handle perspective, it's another race to handicap, and it's hard as is to devote the right amount of time to all of them. And naturally, you need more coin to get involved.

From a horse perspective... I would legitimately worry about yanking horses out of the Juvenile. Does Stay Thirsty stay in the Juvenile last year? But ultimately, the field for this race is not going to be confused with the group in the Juvenile, and the trade-off to a stronger betting race on the undercard probably makes it worth it.

randallscott35 06-14-2011 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by MaTH716 (Post 784411)
I like the one day format also.

Must be a Jersey thing.

Hickory Hill Hoff 06-14-2011 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind (Post 784391)
Is today April 1st?

:tro:

philcski 06-14-2011 11:34 AM

Put me in the minority but I actually like this addition. Unlike the Juvy Turf events, this actually has a place in American racing. What do the vast majority of 2yo's in this country do? They sprint on dirt.

miraja2 06-14-2011 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35 (Post 784410)
I have to say, I still wish the BC was one day...I guess I'm the only one left.

I still wish it was zero days but yeah, one is much better than two.

Gate Dancer 06-14-2011 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind (Post 784391)
Is today April 1st?

Classic..................this was my first thought as well!!

Indian Charlie 06-14-2011 11:56 AM

This race makes more sense than some of the other newer additions.

It's like a last hurrah for some exciting 2yos that won't amount to much past this point.

Like the runnerup to Uncle Mo in last years BCJ.

randallscott35 06-14-2011 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by philcski (Post 784428)
Put me in the minority but I actually like this addition. Unlike the Juvy Turf events, this actually has a place in American racing. What do the vast majority of 2yo's in this country do? They sprint on dirt.

But this a turf sprint?

declansharbor 06-14-2011 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie (Post 784434)
This race makes more sense than some of the other newer additions.

It's like a last hurrah for some exciting 2yos that won't amount to much past this point.

Like Uncle Mo.

Ftfy

philcski 06-14-2011 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35 (Post 784435)
But this a turf sprint?

it's 6F on dirt

MaTH716 06-14-2011 12:16 PM

It really is a Jersey thing, cause I thought I saw turf somewhere too.

randallscott35 06-14-2011 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by philcski (Post 784439)
it's 6F on dirt

My bad. Much better. Still want 1 day but I am ok with a 2 yr old sprint on dirt. I will give my all important blessing.

declansharbor 06-14-2011 12:28 PM

This doesnt come close to their worst decision. I like the idea, but let's hope tht this isnt the beginning of some other bright new ideas. Count me as a fan of the one-day event.

Indian Charlie 06-14-2011 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by declansharbor (Post 784438)
Ftfy

Your wit is still sparkling.

declansharbor 06-14-2011 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie (Post 784445)
Your wit is still sparkling.

Likewise!!!!

DaTruth 06-14-2011 01:29 PM

This will be a nice prep race for the Delta Jackpot.

pweizer 06-14-2011 01:29 PM

So now, a full one third of the Breeder's Cup races are restricted to two year olds.

Forget Lady's Day. We could now have Juvenile Day instead.

Paul

parsixfarms 06-14-2011 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind (Post 784391)
Is today April 1st?

Almost every day seems to be April 1 with the Breeders Cup these days. Next thing you know, they'll be announcing that the Cup will be held at Del Mar over a synthetic surface.

my miss storm cat 06-14-2011 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by parsixfarms (Post 784474)
Almost every day seems to be April 1 with the Breeders Cup these days.

:tro:

parsixfarms 06-14-2011 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 784409)
I also thought a 2 day format was a bad decision until I had the chance to bet full graded stakes fields for 2 days. It is now an event that I don't want changed. I agree with Hockey...

Since they added all the non-essential races, which cannibalize the "traditional" Breeders' Cup races, there have been record numbers of entries, but not full fields (meaning 14 horses in this format).

Cannon Shell 06-14-2011 03:35 PM

I'm waiting for the turf sprint steeplechase.
5 1/2 furlongs on the grass with one jump

Cannon Shell 06-14-2011 03:36 PM

The Breeders Cup starter 10k?

Cannon Shell 06-14-2011 03:41 PM

Why they just ban Lasix for the race?

The foreign horses will be lined up to run, the "transparency" and "integrity" will lead to a more confident public betting hundreds of millions on it and the Germans will feel free to breed to the winner. Only the "real" trainers will be able to run with out "doping" their horses and those scum, the vets won't be making a mint with all those $25 Lasix shots.

The Game is saved!!!!

tanner12oz 06-14-2011 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35 (Post 784410)
I have to say, I still wish the BC was one day...I guess I'm the only one left.

im with you

ateamstupid 06-14-2011 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 784499)
I'm waiting for the turf sprint steeplechase.
5 1/2 furlongs on the grass with one jump

The BC Mares In Foal. About seven furlongs, half polytrack, half turf.

King Glorious 06-14-2011 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by philcski (Post 784428)
Put me in the minority but I actually like this addition. Unlike the Juvy Turf events, this actually has a place in American racing. What do the vast majority of 2yo's in this country do? They sprint on dirt.

I agree totally. I also have a feeling that this is going to be a more popular race for trainers. I've long wished that there was no 2yo racing beyond 6f anyway and I think that having them race shorter instead of pushing them to run further than they are ready for that early in their careers will be better in the long run. At least I hope so because I'm tired of seeing half the crop broken down by the summer every year.


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