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Riot 06-13-2011 02:34 PM

Republican Debate tonight
 
Those wishing to guide this great nation into the future are debating tonight.

Mitt Romney
Tim Pawlenty
Herman Cain
Rick Santorum
Michelle Bachmann
Ron Paul

The best and the brightest :tro:

Antitrust32 06-13-2011 02:37 PM

Ron Paul > Herman Cain > the rest on the list and Obama

Coach Pants 06-13-2011 03:15 PM

I'm ready for Civil War so we can star ridding this country of your ilk.

Antitrust32 06-13-2011 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coach Pants (Post 784162)
I'm ready for Civil War so we can star ridding this country of your ilk.

bring it on!

Riot 06-13-2011 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Antitrust32 (Post 784143)
Ron Paul > Herman Cain > the rest on the list and Obama

Herman Cain hasn't yet come up with any concrete policy. So far he's nothing but simplistic empty catch phrases. What in the world do you like about him?

Antitrust32 06-13-2011 04:00 PM

I dont know... maybe because he was actually an executive in the "real world"... therefore giving him actual leadership experience in America. And he did thrived at his jobs. Also he's not a career politician, so that alone makes him more real than the majority of the candidates, especially the current Pres.

He believes the goverment's main job is to provide national security (I believe the same). He doesnt believe in big goverment or that goverment is the answer for all lifes problems. Plus he wants to get rid of income taxes and create a fair tax... 23% sales tax.

He's likeable... though I guess he could be full of crap like the majority of pol's are and like how Obama was when he was campaigning.

Coach Pants 06-13-2011 04:07 PM

National security should really mean defense and not offense. We're not securing s.hit right now. What we are doing is sexually assaulting innocent people while at the same time s.hitting all over the constitution.

Herman Cain is just the black card the RINO's are playing. It'll be the same ol' s.hit. Another lying war monger elitist puppet.

Antitrust32 06-13-2011 04:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coach Pants (Post 784199)
National security should really mean defense and not offense. We're not securing s.hit right now. What we are doing is sexually assaulting innocent people while at the same time s.hitting all over the constitution.

Herman Cain is just the black card the RINO's are playing. It'll be the same ol' s.hit. Another lying war monger elitist puppet.

you are correct with the first paragraph.

I hope he wont be another lying war monger elitist puppet. He has a business background and knows how to make business's succeed. I really like his idea on the fair tax.. 23% on all NEW goods and services (if you buy a used car or used house, no tax)

Coach Pants 06-13-2011 04:36 PM

He's a Federal Reserve guy. Of course he's a puppet.

Riot 06-13-2011 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Antitrust32 (Post 784192)
I dont know... maybe because he was actually an executive in the "real world"... therefore giving him actual leadership experience in America. And he did thrived at his jobs. Also he's not a career politician, so that alone makes him more real than the majority of the candidates, especially the current Pres.

He believes the goverment's main job is to provide national security (I believe the same). He doesnt believe in big goverment or that goverment is the answer for all lifes problems. Plus he wants to get rid of income taxes and create a fair tax... 23% sales tax.

He's likeable... though I guess he could be full of crap like the majority of pol's are and like how Obama was when he was campaigning.

Well, at least you have reasons :)

somerfrost 06-13-2011 05:08 PM

I might watch because there is so little slapstick comedy on TV these days...

dellinger63 06-13-2011 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by somerfrost (Post 784223)
I might watch because there is so little slapstick comedy on TV these days...


And I'm going to watch the DNC head gain 2lbs in each thigh tonight. To Beonce's move!

Riot 06-13-2011 07:01 PM

Live on CNN, on the web, too.

Riot 06-13-2011 07:15 PM

Wow. This is painful.

Michelle Bachmann answered her question about how she'd fix the economy by announcing she's officially in for President.

Riot 06-13-2011 07:44 PM

Obama 2012. It's a lock. He doesn't even have to campaign. This is so sad.

timmgirvan 06-13-2011 08:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Riot (Post 784246)
Obama 2012. It's a lock. He doesn't even have to campaign. This is so sad.

Don't bank on that!

Riot 06-13-2011 08:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by timmgirvan (Post 784253)
Don't bank on that!

They are a bunch of anti-gay haters. They are disgusting. Ron Paul wants marriages out of government, and only done in churches. So I guess being an atheist isn't allowed in GOP world, either.

The Muslim bashing, the gay bashing, and the religious self-rightousness makes me want to puke.

Riot 06-13-2011 08:34 PM

The ticket will be Romney - Pawlenty. You can already see it in the way Pawlenty has deferred to Romney, and Romney back to Pawlenty. Pawlenty is clearly running for VP.

The rest of them are clowns that need to get out of the public eye before they further ruin the party brand.

hi_im_god 06-13-2011 08:37 PM

the state of the economy in august 2012 will have a lot more influence on the results of the election than anything else that occurs between now and then.

obama has the advantage of no intra-party challenge which means he's already tacking to the center while all the republican candidates have to tack right toward their motivated primary voters in iowa and new hampshire. no republican is getting the nomination without winning one of those.

but whomever the republican nominee is no ones going to care what nutty thing they said in june 2011 if the economy's still perceived to be in the tank.

if bachman wins iowa (a reasonable possibility) i think you'll see the g.o.p. establishment coalesce around romney. or whomever finishes a good second there.

bachman isn't electable in a depression and they know it. but pretty much any white male could beat obama if august 2012 doesn't look much better than june 2011.

Riot 06-13-2011 08:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hi_im_god (Post 784263)
while all the republican candidates have to tack right toward their motivated primary voters in iowa and new hampshire. no republican is getting the nomination without winning one of those.

Romney is skipping Iowa and going straight to NH. Bachmann will be there, Santorum, Cain, Paul, Gingrich.

Quote:

bachman isn't electable in a depression and they know it. but pretty much any white male could beat obama if august 2012 doesn't look much better than june 2011.
Good point about the economy, but the financial plan of all of them tonight was cut corporate taxes to zero. Period. They all would have done no stimulus or TARP whatsoever, and let the auto companies go bankrupt. Then they bashed unions in another question.

They all just gave Michigan to Obama.

The audience looked to be completely asleep until the red meat social fireworks started.

I'm really interested in what the GOP can come up with for a platform this year. I don't know if they'll have a candidate that could match it.

hi_im_god 06-13-2011 09:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Riot (Post 784269)
Romney is skipping Iowa and going straight to NH. Bachmann will be there, Santorum, Cain, Paul, Gingrich.



Good point about the economy, but the financial plan of all of them tonight was cut corporate taxes to zero. Period. They all would have done no stimulus or TARP whatsoever, and let the auto companies go bankrupt. Then they bashed unions in another question.

They all just gave Michigan to Obama.

The audience looked to be completely asleep until the red meat social fireworks started.

I'm really interested in what the GOP can come up with for a platform this year. I don't know if they'll have a candidate that could match it.

not if michigan unemployment is north of 12%.

you and i will vote for obama pretty much regardless of whom the republicans nominate.

we differ in our evaluations of how tough this election will be. just because i'd vote for obama in a depression doesn't mean the rest of the country will.

outside of the occasional candidate self-destructing, the run up to the primaries is essentially background noise. you won't remember anything that was said here a year from now without looking it up on youtube.

Rileyoriley 06-13-2011 09:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Antitrust32 (Post 784143)
Ron Paul > Herman Cain > the rest on the list and Obama

Ron Paul > Herman Cain > Gingrich (can't stand him as a person and think he's out of it since his staff quit but he gave a more powerful performance than I expected given everything that happened the last few days) > the rest


Romney gave more speeches than he did answer the question directed to him. He's become a true politician.

Bachman-no way

Tim P-not impressed



I forgot Santorum-obviously forgettable

Next debate-could we please skip the assine American Idol/ Dancing With The Stars questions??????

somerfrost 06-13-2011 09:29 PM

Gave up and switched to WWE, Roddy Piper wrestled the Miz tonight...much more enjoyable than the debates...Bachmann and Palin mud wrestling and I'll watch!

Danzig 06-14-2011 06:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by somerfrost (Post 784284)
Gave up and switched to WWE, Roddy Piper wrestled the Miz tonight...much more enjoyable than the debates...Bachmann and Palin mud wrestling and I'll watch!

does that mean your statement no longer applies:

'I am uncomfortable when threads such as this turn to mocking and reliance on perceptions of beauty to determine someone's worth.'

or would you wish to watch barbara mikulski and madeline albright engage in mud wrestling as well? somehow, i doubt it.

Coach Pants 06-14-2011 06:19 AM

You're not going to get people who had problems in life and were unable to be financially independent interested in the republican/libertarian point of view. It's like trying to train a plecostomus not to suck up all the s.hit on the side and bottom of the fish tank. They like the s.hit. Propping the losers up is not sustainable in the 21st century. Resources are running low and we simply can't afford to take care of the slapd.icks. That reality is frightening to them.

geeker2 06-14-2011 07:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rileyoriley (Post 784283)
Ron Paul > Herman Cain > Gingrich (can't stand him as a person and think he's out of it since his staff quit but he gave a more powerful performance than I expected given everything that happened the last few days) > the rest


Romney gave more speeches than he did answer the question directed to him. He's become a true politician.

Bachman-no way

Tim P-not impressed



I forgot Santorum-obviously forgettable

Next debate-could we please skip the assine American Idol/ Dancing With The Stars questions??????

Typical ranking from an Obama lover :D:p

otisotisotis 06-14-2011 07:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Antitrust32 (Post 784192)
I dont know... maybe because he was actually an executive in the "real world"... therefore giving him actual leadership experience in America. And he did thrived at his jobs. Also he's not a career politician, so that alone makes him more real than the majority of the candidates, especially the current Pres.

He believes the goverment's main job is to provide national security (I believe the same). He doesnt believe in big goverment or that goverment is the answer for all lifes problems. Plus he wants to get rid of income taxes and create a fair tax... 23% sales tax.

He's likeable... though I guess he could be full of crap like the majority of pol's are and like how Obama was when he was campaigning.

Everything that is wrong with the average American way of thinking.

miraja2 06-14-2011 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Antitrust32 (Post 784143)
Ron Paul > Herman Cain > the rest on the list and Obama

Abandoning your boy Newt so soon?

somerfrost 06-14-2011 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 784303)
does that mean your statement no longer applies:

'I am uncomfortable when threads such as this turn to mocking and reliance on perceptions of beauty to determine someone's worth.'

or would you wish to watch barbara mikulski and madeline albright engage in mud wrestling as well? somehow, i doubt it.

Has less to do with their physical appearances and more to do with their politics, but you are right....my bad!

Antitrust32 06-14-2011 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by miraja2 (Post 784389)
Abandoning your boy Newt so soon?

:) no I was just going off the list Riot provided in the first post.

Newt & Paul > Cain > the rest ;)

Riot 06-14-2011 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by miraja2 (Post 784389)
Abandoning your boy Newt so soon?

Heck, his staff abandoned him, when Newt abandoned them and his casual, "Sell Another Book and DVD Tour 2012" publicity tour at Calista's orders to depart for Greece :D

So Newt showed up for the debate, gave a few half-thought, typical Newt answers (I liked private moon colonies the best :tro:).

The only question now is if Newt will officially announce his campaign is over via Facebook, or just fade away.

Riot 06-14-2011 11:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Antitrust32 (Post 784416)
:) no I was just going off the list Riot provided in the first post.

Eww ... poor Newt, he didn't even register standing there :(

Did you like his "privatize NASA" stuff? He was rockin' his Ron Paul there :D

Antitrust32 06-14-2011 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Riot (Post 784421)
Eww ... poor Newt, he didn't even register standing there :(

Did you like his "privatize NASA" stuff? He was rockin' his Ron Paul there :D

I didnt get a chance to watch the debate last night, but from what I've read today on CNN.com, Newt, Michelle & Romney "won" the debate.

hoovesupsideyourhead 06-14-2011 12:58 PM

anythings better that whats in the w house now..

Antitrust32 06-14-2011 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead (Post 784453)
anythings better that whats in the w house now..

not really true... imagine if Nancy Pelosi held that position!

geeker2 06-14-2011 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Antitrust32 (Post 784465)
not really true... imagine if Nancy Pelosi held that position!

marry, fucl<, kill

Bachman, Palin, Pelosi


:p

Antitrust32 06-14-2011 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by geeker2 (Post 784482)
marry, fucl<, kill

Bachman, Palin, Pelosi


:p

oh geez.

kill Pelosi, threesome with Bachman and Palin... dont give them phone numbers.

based on the rules i'd fuc.k Palin and marry Bachman. Pelosi goes off the cliff.

geeker2 06-14-2011 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Antitrust32 (Post 784485)
oh geez.

kill Pelosi, threesome with Bachman and Palin... dont give them phone numbers.

based on the rules i'd fuc.k Palin and marry Bachman. Pelosi goes off the cliff.

ROR !!!

Dahoss 06-14-2011 04:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 784303)
does that mean your statement no longer applies:

'I am uncomfortable when threads such as this turn to mocking and reliance on perceptions of beauty to determine someone's worth.'

or would you wish to watch barbara mikulski and madeline albright engage in mud wrestling as well? somehow, i doubt it.

:tro: :tro:

lord007 06-14-2011 04:34 PM

The "This or That" part was a total waste of time but it would of been funny if they asked Newt...Pearls or Diamonds


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