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Kasept 04-26-2011 06:07 AM

4/26 DERBY NOTEBOOK: Uncle Mo goes well; Factor, Gusto out..
 
Todd Pletcher, fearing heavy weather later in the morning, made the decision to have UNCLE MO work at 5:45a this morning as opposed to the originally scheduled 8:30a. The erstwhile Derby favorite provided the scant clocking audience with a spin described by DRF's Mike Welsch and the 3 Churchill clockers as 'good', 'easy', 'solid' and 'efficient'.

With John Velazquez aboard and in company with Repole barnmate Calibrachoa, Uncle Mo set up outside his workmate, and never had to be urged as he eased by the stakes-winning sprinter in the final sixteenth after the pair had caught up to and circumvented a set of Tom Proctor 2yo's.

Uncle Mo opened the 5f effort in :13.1 before quickening to a :25.2 quarter, :37.2 three-eighths, and stopping the work distance clock in 1:01.4. Although there was no official half mile quote, Welsch caught the eighth pole call at :48.4. The Indian Charlie colt galloped out to 6f in 1:15.3 with good energy and interest, before beginning to relax.

HAND CAM VIDEO OF STRETCH/GALLOP OUT

Todd Pletcher will conduct a 9:30a news briefing to discuss the work, and based on the reaction to the drill from the professional observers, he will likely be pleased with what he got from the Juvenile Champion. More on ATR after the Q+A.

TouchOfGrey 04-26-2011 06:49 AM

Thanks for the update!

randallscott35 04-26-2011 07:25 AM

Sounds like he is doing better. Good to hear.

Kasept 04-26-2011 11:24 AM

With The Factor out, there is a distinct chance that Martin Garcia will replace Victor Espinoza on MIDNIGHT INTERLUDE.

The Devil 04-26-2011 12:05 PM

After Victor's fight with Bob's wife last year I didn't think he would ever ride for him again. Garicia is his main man.

RolloTomasi 04-26-2011 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Devil (Post 771464)
After Victor's fight with Bob's wife last year I didn't think he would ever ride for him again. Garicia is his main man.

Not to mention Espinoza's frank opinion of the steward's ruling in the Game On Dude-Big Cap inquiry.

Still, replacing Espinoza at this point would bring nothing but bad karma, and arguably it was off the strength of Espinoza's stretch riding that Midnight Interlude even has a Derby berth to begin with.

Alan07 04-26-2011 12:35 PM

Dominguez on Stay Thirsty.

http://www.drf.com/news/kentucky-der...minguez-aboard

Riot 04-26-2011 01:29 PM

Thanks - the hand cam was helpful. Track looks like it was floated, anybody know?

pointman 04-26-2011 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alan07 (Post 771473)

What a shock. :rolleyes:

The only doubt here was whether Velazquez would ride Uncle Mo or Stay Thirsty if Uncle Mo didn't start. This is actually more of an endorsement that Uncle Mo will run in the Derby than anything else.

randallscott35 04-26-2011 01:42 PM

I don't think Dominguez will be getting a Derby win this year.

lemoncrush 04-26-2011 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pointman (Post 771505)
What a shock. :rolleyes:

The only doubt here was whether Velazquez would ride Uncle Mo or Stay Thirsty if Uncle Mo didn't start. This is actually more of an endorsement that Uncle Mo will run in the Derby than anything else.

That's true, but they could still have a contingency plan in place giving the mount to Johnny, if Mo has a setback.

Either way, Stay Thirsty is hopeless.

MaTH716 04-26-2011 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by randallscott35 (Post 771508)
I don't think Dominguez will be getting a Derby win this year.

Wait wait? Let's start the threads now on how bad he is......................:rolleyes:

pointman 04-26-2011 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaTH716 (Post 771542)
Wait wait? Let's start the threads now on how bad he is......................:rolleyes:

Can you imagine an overhyped guy like Dominguez got the ride over BO-RAIL? :rolleyes:

HaloWishingwell 04-26-2011 02:53 PM

Or maybe Borel's one workout of Stay Thirsty told him enough...."Aidan can I ride your horse?"

declansharbor 04-26-2011 02:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by randallscott35 (Post 771508)
I don't think Dominguez will be getting a Derby win this year.

Whats the weather like out there on that limb?

pointman 04-26-2011 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HaloWishingwell (Post 771545)
Or maybe Borel's one workout of Stay Thirsty told him enough...."Aidan can I ride your horse?"

Yeah, I'm sure that is exactly how it went down, it was Calvin's choice. I am sure Pletcher and Repole spent the entire morning trying to beg Borel to ride Stay Thirsty and Calvin instead opted to hold out for a horse that probably won't even run in the Derby. Brilliant. :rolleyes:

Alan07 04-26-2011 03:57 PM

Mike Smith on Twinspired.

HaloWishingwell 04-26-2011 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pointman (Post 771558)
Yeah, I'm sure that is exactly how it went down, it was Calvin's choice. I am sure Pletcher and Repole spent the entire morning trying to beg Borel to ride Stay Thirsty and Calvin instead opted to hold out for a horse that probably won't even run in the Derby. Brilliant. :rolleyes:

So you're trying to say that after talking all morning they decided on their own not to use Borel after asking him to work him out? A guy who knows a thing or two about winning this race and won last year's race for Pletcher. Instead stick to Dominguez even though not necessarily his fault didnt exactly look impressive last out. I still think Borel turned them down or possibly Stay Thirsty might scratch if they think Uncle Mo is ready.

pointman 04-26-2011 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HaloWishingwell (Post 771577)
So you're trying to say that after talking all morning they decided on their own not to use Borel after asking him to work him out? A guy who knows a thing or two about winning this race and won last year's race for Pletcher. Instead stick to Dominguez even though not necessarily his fault didnt exactly look impressive last out. I still think Borel turned them down or possibly Stay Thirsty might scratch if they think Uncle Mo is ready.

I am saying that Borel was never going to ride Stay Thirsty and it was certainly not his decision. Dominguez has the mount unless Uncle Mo does not start in which case Velazquez will likely get the mount. And while I have not read up on it, I will take a wild guess that if Borel worked Stay Thirsty instead of Dominguez it is probably because Borel is at Churchill this week and Dominguez is not. I think it is really funny that you think the choice was Borel's! Have to love the Botards!

Don't get me wrong, I want Borel in the race but not for the reason you do. I am salavating at the real possibility that any horse Borel rides will take the stupidest of the stupid money bet into the Derby.

HaloWishingwell 04-26-2011 04:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pointman (Post 771585)
I am saying that Borel was never going to ride Stay Thirsty and it was certainly not his decision. Dominguez has the mount unless Uncle Mo does not start in which case Velazquez will likely get the mount. And while I have not read up on it, I will take a wild guess that if Borel worked Stay Thirsty instead of Dominguez it is probably because Borel is at Churchill this week and Dominguez is not. I think it is really funny that you think the choice was Borel's! Have to love the Botards!

Don't get me wrong, I want Borel in the race but not for the reason you do. I am salavating at the real possibility that any horse Borel rides will take the stupidest of the stupid money bet into the Derby.

"Love the Botards!" I want Borel in the race but not for the reason you do. Well that makes you the only one wanting him in the race. I really dont give a **** if he rides or flashes his winning smile as a commentator that day. That leaves you as the only Botard and I having no reason for him in the race. Sorry to break it to you.......you dont know everything. Pointless

NTamm1215 04-26-2011 04:34 PM

Stay Thirsty has more of a chance to win the Derby than Master of Hounds. I'd love to see Borel on Master of Hounds.

HaloWishingwell 04-26-2011 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NTamm1215 (Post 771598)
Stay Thirsty has more of a chance to win the Derby than Master of Hounds. I'd love to see Borel on Master of Hounds.

I took a wild stab in the first pool on Stay Thirsty. I would love to see him pull out some magic but right now I feel I'm better off feeding him my ticket. Pletcher has a meeting with Repole and doesnt take on the only rider to ever win the Derby for him who is available? Is Stay Thirsty that good that Dominguez begged not to take him off? Doubt it. Either Stay Thirsty didnt impress him during the work that he rather hope for another opening or Stay Thirsty is hanging around just to be a scratch some time before the Derby if Uncle Mo is ready to go.

Uncle Daddy 04-26-2011 05:09 PM

Doesn't the Wood winner flatter Stay thirtsy just enough to not be a total toss against this group? Have not heard anything that his last works were horrific.

pointman 04-26-2011 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HaloWishingwell (Post 771599)
I took a wild stab in the first pool on Stay Thirsty. I would love to see him pull out some magic but right now I feel I'm better off feeding him my ticket. Pletcher has a meeting with Repole and doesnt take on the only rider to ever win the Derby for him who is available? Is Stay Thirsty that good that Dominguez begged not to take him off? Doubt it. Either Stay Thirsty didnt impress him during the work that he rather hope for another opening or Stay Thirsty is hanging around just to be a scratch some time before the Derby if Uncle Mo is ready to go.

You are right, I don't know everything. But, I am pretty damn certain that the choice was Pletcher's and Repole's, not Borel's. The notion that Borel would opt off when he doesn't have another mount in the Derby is comical.

The answer to your question as to why Pletcher/Repole would choose Dominguez over Borel is that Dominguez is a better rider regardless of whether Borel has won Pletcher's only Derby.

HaloWishingwell 04-26-2011 05:16 PM

Oh good an opinion this time instead of bad comedy. Dominguez statistically might be better all around but those numbers might be different at Churchill. All of this moot we're not talking about who gets to ride Secretariat.

pointman 04-26-2011 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HaloWishingwell (Post 771608)
Oh good an opinion this time instead of bad comedy. Dominguez statistically might be better all around but those numbers might be different at Churchill. All of this moot we're not talking about who gets to ride Secretariat.

Bad comedy? I'm not the one holding a future ticket on Stay Thirsty.

HaloWishingwell 04-26-2011 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pointman (Post 771610)
Bad comedy? I'm not the one holding a future ticket on Stay Thirsty.

You're right

lemoncrush 04-26-2011 06:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Uncle Daddy (Post 771605)
Doesn't the Wood winner flatter Stay thirtsy just enough to not be a total toss against this group? Have not heard anything that his last works were horrific.

If u watched the gotham stakes, then you know the answer your question is no.

knickslions2 04-26-2011 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pointman (Post 771610)
Bad comedy? I'm not the one holding a future ticket on Stay Thirsty.

LOL i wasted a crisp $20 on him also

Dahoss 04-26-2011 07:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HaloWishingwell (Post 771599)
I took a wild stab in the first pool on Stay Thirsty. I would love to see him pull out some magic but right now I feel I'm better off feeding him my ticket. Pletcher has a meeting with Repole and doesnt take on the only rider to ever win the Derby for him who is available? Is Stay Thirsty that good that Dominguez begged not to take him off? Doubt it. Either Stay Thirsty didnt impress him during the work that he rather hope for another opening or Stay Thirsty is hanging around just to be a scratch some time before the Derby if Uncle Mo is ready to go.

Borel worked him as a favor. I don't think Dominguez was ever not going to ride him.

It sucks, because with Borel on he would have been an even bigger underlay than he already is going to be. But, I'm with NTamm in hoping he rides Master of Hounds, because he's another that is going to be overbet and with Borel on he'll be an incredible underlay.

LARHAGE 04-26-2011 08:49 PM

On another board they are saying Borel will be on Anthonys Cross, for whatever it's worth.

randallscott35 04-26-2011 08:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LARHAGE (Post 771664)
On another board they are saying Borel will be on Anthonys Cross, for whatever it's worth.

Probably means 15 points on his odds. Easy

NTamm1215 04-26-2011 09:01 PM

Churchill is staying with $1.00 minimum on superfectas on Oaks-Derby days.

http://www.churchilldowns.com/racing...mes-wager-menu

Mike 04-27-2011 07:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NTamm1215 (Post 771667)
Churchill is staying with $1.00 minimum on superfectas on Oaks-Derby days.

http://www.churchilldowns.com/racing...mes-wager-menu

50 cent trifectas, which makes what I consider the best Derby bet, a 5 horse tri box, only $30, which is well within reach of everyday fans.

lemoncrush 04-27-2011 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NTamm1215 (Post 771667)
Churchill is staying with $1.00 minimum on superfectas on Oaks-Derby days.

http://www.churchilldowns.com/racing...mes-wager-menu

The only thing I don't like is the .50 cent pk 3. I think that waters it down too much.

Sightseek 04-27-2011 11:58 AM

TTs is saying that Borel might ride Watch Me Go.

pointman 04-27-2011 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sightseek (Post 771816)
TTs is saying that Borel might ride Watch Me Go.

Looks like we will get a massive underlay after all.

tjfla 04-27-2011 12:50 PM

Espinoza is staying on MI-Baffert likes how he whips him at the right time. Weird Reason but whatever works

PatCummings 04-27-2011 01:38 PM

Borel on Twice The Appeal. Done.


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