radicalized muslim hearing
 

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/41933142/ns/us_news/

NEW YORK — A coalition of over 100 interfaith, nonprofit and governmental organizations planned to rally in New York City against a planned congressional hearing on Muslims' role in homegrown terrorism.

The coalition said that Thursday's hearing will send the wrong message to U.S. Muslims by "demonizing" them.

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U.S. Rep. Peter King, a New York Republican, told CNN's "State of the Union" that he sees an international movement with elements in the U.S. of Muslims becoming more radical and identifying with terrorists.

A Minnesota Democrat, Rep. Keith Ellison, the first Muslim elected to the House, said that while it's proper to investigate radicalization, it is wrong to single out a religious minority.


now, that's what i don't get. what other religions should we be investigating? that comment makes no sense to me at all. are all muslims 'bad'. of course not. but any that are radicalized, who are using a bastardized form of their religion to instigate terrorism, obviously should be investigated. i don't believe we should group any and all muslims together, but i can certainly understand having this hearing.

They are going to keep line-stepping and pushing the envelope. Let them. Then the politically correct will be brushed to the side and the extreme measure will be taken. They will be taught a lesson. Right now they are the disruptive student in class taking advantage of the teacher shackled by unfair rules. Those tables can turn in an instant.

I think the topic of the investigation is indeed proper, while I understand concerns of the Muslim community, the world is as it is....radical Islam is a clear and present danger and followers simply cannot be allowed to hide.

Good thing radical Islam is a tiny extreme minority of terror and violence, not religion. One might mistakenly thing one was investigating and inadvertently demonizing an entire religion of billions for the acts of those few hundred that use religion for extremist political purpose.

And nobody would want that, surely.

Of course not...but you can't easily separate religion from those who bastardize it for their purposes.

Well ... one group is a couple hundred violent, threatening political terrorists hiding out in Afghanistan, Yemen, Pakistan.

The other are a few billion peaceful, normal, average people, including millions of your fellow Americans.

There were a couple hundred celebrating in one muslim village following the twin towers coming down.

FTFY

Couple hundred in the IL prison system.......

Another couple hundred in Farakan's church....

Who should understand the need to confirm that!

she knows she's on twitter!

She's with it. She's hip. Ducka ducka ducka ducka

investigating those who are going to extremes in no way demonizes the entire religion. it's not an all-or-nothing thing here. i tire of people leaping into a defensive mode just because a suggestion has been made to investigate the actions of a few-a few who mean nothing but harm.

Absolutely...we can't ignore clear and present dangers to avoid upsetting folks...hell, my religion has been demonized for centuries and I don't cry every time a witch is depicted riding a broomstick or casting an evil spell!

are you or have you ever been a member of the communist party?

witch hunts are witch hunts danzig. they're always an all-or-nothing thing. only those advocating the violent overthrow of our democratic system had anything to fear from joe mccarthy.

Fear the Muslims!

Confirm that the problem is a teeny, tiny wingnut crazy minority who co-opts a radical view of an entire religion for their own political purpose? It's already been confirmed. We pretty well know the type of unhappy young male that is "targeted" by radicals (of all stripes).

There is no comparison at all between killing and hate words, obviously, but radicalized religious terrorists don't represent Islam any more than Westboro Baptist represents Christians.

I don't understand: who specifically are we to be investigating?

I mean, the FBI, CIA and our counterterrorism folks have had a profile of susceptible people (susceptible to radical terroristic conversions of any stripe, both religious or not) for some years.

I really fail to see what public hearings on "Muslims" is going to do, especially looking at King's guest list. What knowledge are we to gain? We'll see.

Because Farakan's church is exactly like Al Quaeda?

We could round up every Muslim, and lock them up in safe camps. We can let them out when the fear of terrorism has passed, or as each one proves they are true Americans.

your series of posts is hysteria at its finest. these hearings aren't on muslims, they aren't suggesting any of your preposterous ideas. having hearings on a radical group, who is using a bastardized form of a religion to promote terrorism, has nothing to do with the muslim religion in general-nor do the proposed hearings from what i've read. but a select group of folks have taken 'hearing on radicalized muslim terrorists' and taken that to the extreme- an irony right there. the suggestion that we shouldn't 'single out' this one religion is ridiculous. this is the only religion at present with an ultra-loony sect bent on death and destruction. what could questioning a baptist, catholic, or methodist possibly do to help figure out what brings about radicalization in the muslim religion??

:zz:

yeah we've been fighting a 10 year war against a couple hundred people.

try

100,000,000 Muslims who support a radical version of Islam.

I'd say its the difference between 10% and 0.00001% but who cares about those differences.

besides.. the radical Muslims have caused a hell of a lot more problems than westboro baptist.

Do you even remember 9/11? you sure dont act like it.

:zz::zz:

....or we could put them in a shark tank until we figure it out.

Posting Riot's complete history on Nerdy Trail on various blogs and tube sites could be enough to revive the radical Christian movement.

Unfortunately, many of the "peace loving" males in this religion have the desire to hurt people in other religions etc. They live their lives by controlling those desires. Truth is that, when this inner discipline breaks down, innocent Americans pay a very high price. Riot would like for you to think that there are only these separate well designated groups of people doing us harm. The reality is that the incidents in Texas, Portland, and NYC were caused by people who had been part of the peaceful majority. Soon as something inside them goes bad, they don't rob a jewelry store. They don't rape a family member. They don't force the lil girl next door to watch them jack off. They don't cut their own kids' heads off. They don't jump off a cliff.

They try to kill as many non-Muslims as they possibly can. Bitch, are you oblivious to this fact of life?

They were raised by the peaceful majority. They weren't raised by terrorists. When peaceful members of this religion go bad, it's not gunna go well for people who don't belong to their religion.

Repeatedly quoting that pulled-from-thin-air number doesn't help your case.

Yes - there are only a couple hundred, or less, of Al Quaeda left.

Yeah, I'm really "hysterical" :D

We'll see where the focus of these "hearings" goes. And again, I see no point nor gain to a bunch of elected political officials holding public hearings on this.

What will these silly public display hearings teach us, what information will they gain, that that our CIA, FBI, counterintelligence agencies don't already know 1000 times more about it? That hasn't already been printed in three-page newspaper articles about the type of person terrorists seek out?

As hiimgod already pointed out, our nation has already been through this type of exercise with communists and Japanese Americans.

:zz: No, except just in the sentence I wrote, that you are responding to. Geeshus cripes ....

How dare you call 'Zig a bitch. Where do you get off thinking you have any right to attack her because she doesn't buy your racist crapshit?

No, Scuds, because I'm not a loser, ignorant, racist jackass, living in a fantasy world of hate, like yourself.

He does have a pretty good grasp of Radical Islam! You choose to ignore it.

No, I chose not to believe racist crap. You go right ahead.

Believing Politically Correct crap will get you killed. Ask the people at Fort Hood.

I'm neither ignorant nor racist enough to confuse the very real danger of terrorism with an excuse for hating a few billion people.

I don't hate them, I just don't trust them.

my number of 100,000,000 are people who support a radical version of Islam. aka support Sharia Law (but you already knew that as I've said it a million times - you just like to misrepresent things quite often). it is estimated to be 10% of Muslims.

If anything... my number is low. Its probably more like 150,000,000

That number is ridiculous, and was made up, pulled out of thin air and spread in the fear-mongering wing of American media. There is zero validation for it.

you are certifiable.

I'm done with this topic when it involves you. you have zero objectivity.