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Kasept 02-16-2011 04:23 PM

2/19-20 (GP): Sabin (G3), Mac Diarmida (G2); Very One S. (G3)
 
9th (Post Time: 4:51) Sabin S. (G3)

1 Mile | Fillies and Mares | 4 Year Olds And Up | Purse: $100,000

1 Amazing A. Solis 117 Lbs M. Wolfson - L
2 Joanie's Catch J. Santiago 119 Lbs B. Rose - L
3 Musical Romance J. Leyva 117 Lbs W. Kaplan - L
4 Amen Hallelujah J. Castellano 123 Lbs R. Dutrow, Jr. - L
5 Hyperlink A. Garcia 117 Lbs K. McPeek - L
6 Catch a Thief C. Marquez, Jr. 117 Lbs T. Hills - L
7 Awesome Maria J. Velazquez 117 Lbs T. Pletcher - L
8 Sassy Image K. Desormeaux 117 Lbs D. Romans - L



10th (Post Time: 5:26) Mac Diarmida S. (G2)

1 3/8 Miles | Open | 4 Year Olds And Up | Purse: $150,000

1 Pool Play P. Husbands 119 Lbs M. Casse - L
2 Gabriel's Hill A. Garcia 117 Lbs S. Benzel - L
3 Rahy's Attorney E. Prado 117 Lbs I. Black - L
4 Free Fighter C. Marquez, Jr. 121 Lbs C. Block - L
5 Ordination (IRE) S. Madrid 117 Lbs K. McPeek - L
6 Musketier (GER) A. Solis 121 Lbs R. Attfield - L
7 Prince Will I Am J. Velazquez 123 Lbs M. Nihei - L
8 Stately Victor P. Lopez 119 Lbs M. Maker - L
9 Perfect Shower J. Castanon 117 Lbs R. Attfield - L
10 Simmard J. Lezcano 117 Lbs R. Attfield - L
11 Mint Chip M. Cruz 117 Lbs G. Arnold, II - L
12 Al Khali K. Desormeaux 123 Lbs W. Mott - L
13 Citrus Kid J. Castellano 117 Lbs J. Terranova, II - L

my miss storm cat 02-16-2011 05:15 PM

Man I cannot wait for the Mac Diarmida!

I love this race. Every year it has a really nice field and I know some people might think I get too excited too easily but wow... this is an awesome betteing race.

Nice to see so many older guys. :)

Check it out!

4 - Stately Victor, Prince Will I Am, Mint Chip, Citrus Kid
5 - Perfect Shower, Al Khali
6 - Pool Play, Free Fighter, Ordination, Simmard
7 - Gabriel's HIll, Rahy's Attorney
9 - Musketier

(I do NOT have too much time on my hands). :eek: :D

Hooray for race horses who race!

NTamm1215 02-16-2011 05:37 PM

The Mac Diarmida is a terrific race.

freddymo 02-16-2011 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by NTamm1215 (Post 753204)
The Mac Diarmida is a terrific race.

Why do think its so terriffic ?

NTamm1215 02-16-2011 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by freddymo (Post 753211)
Why do think its so terriffic ?

It's a great betting race, there are a few horses in it that could be legitimate turf horses down the line and there's more than enough pace to guarantee that it'll be a truly run race.

It's easy to pop on here after 80% of the stakes races run in this country are carded and crow about how bad the horses in it are, how the good horses from yesteryear would crap on them, and how few good horses we have now. This, to me, is going to be an interesting race.

RockHardTen1985 02-16-2011 07:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NTamm1215 (Post 753240)
It's a great betting race, there are a few horses in it that could be legitimate turf horses down the line and there's more than enough pace to guarantee that it'll be a truly run race.

It's easy to pop on here after 80% of the stakes races run in this country are carded and crow about how bad the horses in it are, how the good horses from yesteryear would crap on them, and how few good horses we have now. This, to me, is going to be an interesting race.

Who are the ones who could be legitimate? I see a standout if he can run back to his Woodbine race 2 back. The problem is he burns more money then anything. The 13 is OK, but this might be to much to soon and that post does not help. Am I missing someone else?

freddymo 02-16-2011 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NTamm1215 (Post 753240)
It's a great betting race, there are a few horses in it that could be legitimate turf horses down the line and there's more than enough pace to guarantee that it'll be a truly run race.

It's easy to pop on here after 80% of the stakes races run in this country are carded and crow about how bad the horses in it are, how the good horses from yesteryear would crap on them, and how few good horses we have now. This, to me, is going to be an interesting race.

For betting purposes it well be terriffic. I didnt knock the talent and realize that there just arent turf horses in the States anymore of substance. The stock is gone and it isnt coming back. Good news though Telling is prepping for the Sword Dancer

NTamm1215 02-16-2011 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by freddymo (Post 753246)
For betting purposes it well be terriffic. I didnt knock the talent and realize that there just arent turf horses in the States anymore of substance. The stock is gone and it isnt coming back. Good news though Telling is prepping for the Sword Dancer

No, I know what you meant and we agree. I can see a horse like Prince Will I Am, whose last two turf races were pretty good, could easily become a player in GI races later this year. For God's sake, Winchester won two GI races last year. If you had said that he was going to win the Manhattan and Joe Hirsch at this point last year you would have been ridiculed and rightfully so.

Kasept 02-17-2011 02:04 PM

SUNDAY 10th (5:26) Very One S. (G3)

1 3/8 Miles (Turf) | Fillies and Mares | 4 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $100,000

1 Changing Skies (IRE) Desormeaux K J 121 L
2 Musical Rain (IRE) Castellano J J 117 L
3 Liberally (IRE) Maragh R 117 L
4 Keertana Lezcano J 121 L
5 Zapparition Leparoux J R 117 L
6 Belle Watling (CHI) Prado E S 123 L

Kasept 02-17-2011 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kasept (Post 753481)
SUNDAY 10th (5:26) Very One S. (G3)

6 Belle Watling (CHI) Prado E S 123 L

Biancone finally picks a spot for Belle Watling...

TRIVIA QUIZ: Without Googling, who was Belle Watling?

Sightseek 02-17-2011 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kasept (Post 753484)
Biancone finally picks a spot for Belle Watling...

TRIVIA QUIZ: Without Googling, who was Belle Watling?

Was she the South American Triple Crown winner?

Kasept 02-17-2011 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sightseek (Post 753497)
Was she the South American Triple Crown winner?

Not the horse. Who the horse is named after...

Sightseek 02-17-2011 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kasept (Post 753498)
Not the horse. Who the horse is named after...

Oh.


Well I don't care about people. :D

Kasept 02-17-2011 02:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sightseek (Post 753499)
Oh.

Well I don't care about people. :D

It's a literary (and cinematic) character.

my miss storm cat 02-17-2011 02:47 PM

I would guess Scarlett O'Hara but only because of the word "belle".

Kasept 02-17-2011 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by my miss storm cat (Post 753501)
I would guess Scarlett O'Hara but only because of the word "belle".

Ding, ding, ding... Close enough.

Based on real life Lexington, KY cathouse proprietor Belle Brezing, and played deliciously by Ona Munson in 'GWTW', Belle Watling is Rhett Butler's 'friend' and Madam of the Atlanta cathouse he frequents.

my miss storm cat 02-17-2011 04:04 PM

Interesting! :)

Kasept 02-17-2011 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by my miss storm cat (Post 753523)
Interesting! :)

When you visit Derby Trail, a world of 'interesting' is laid at your feet...

my miss storm cat 02-17-2011 04:22 PM

So true, my Dear.

You never know what's in store!

Princess Doreen 02-18-2011 11:37 AM

:{>: Prince Will I Am.

Princess Doreen 02-19-2011 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Princess Doreen (Post 753815)
:{>: Prince Will I Am.

Who loves ya, baby!

my miss storm cat 02-20-2011 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Princess Doreen (Post 754260)
Who loves ya, baby!

I know you don't redboard but, and I'll say this very quietly, considering you told me your tri days ago I'd love the other two as well (a little bit anyway). :D

Nice horse, awesome picks. Good for you! :tro:

Princess Doreen 02-20-2011 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by my miss storm cat (Post 754431)
I know you don't redboard but, and I'll say this very quietly, considering you told me your tri days ago I'd love the other two as well (a little bit anyway). :D

Nice horse, awesome picks. Good for you! :tro:

Tanks, gf!:)

http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-raci...mac-diarmida-s

Indian Charlie 02-20-2011 04:30 PM

Brilliant race riding by Kent D!

NTamm1215 02-20-2011 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie (Post 754569)
Brilliant race riding by Kent D!

Let's hope he has a breathalyzer test in a couple of minutes. That was special.

freddymo 02-20-2011 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NTamm1215 (Post 754572)
Let's hope he has a breathalyzer test in a couple of minutes. That was special.

He is either outstanding or horrible..

Indian Charlie 02-20-2011 04:50 PM

The thing with Kent D., and many other jocks, that always baffled me, is that they seem incapable of learning from their same old tired mistakes.

I saw that coming a mile away, literally.

freddymo 02-20-2011 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie (Post 754583)
The thing with Kent D., and many other jocks, that always baffled me, is that they seem incapable of learning from their same old tired mistakes.

I saw that coming a mile away, literally.

You were watching the race in HD with 3 camera angles, while I agree they seem to make the same mistakes a lot, its a little unfair saying you saw it coming like sleepy should have as well.

Indian Charlie 02-20-2011 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by freddymo (Post 754588)
You were watching the race in HD with 3 camera angles, while I agree they seem to make the same mistakes a lot, its a little unfair saying you saw it coming like sleepy should have as well.

I was watching it through the Internet with a crappy feed.

I see this all the time. Five horse fields and some pinhead almost always seems to fail to anticipate getting trapped on the rail.

It's not like this was the Ky Derby with 20 horses dude.

The Indomitable DrugS 02-20-2011 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie (Post 754592)
I see this all the time. Five horse fields and some pinhead almost always seems to fail to anticipate getting trapped on the rail.

It's not like this was the Ky Derby with 20 horses dude.

Yeah - and the KY Derby is when they all leave the rail wide open for fear of getting trapped.

The last year that they ran a KY Derby with a 24 horse field - the longshot winner came right up the fence and you could have driven a semi up the rail.

Indian Charlie 02-20-2011 07:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS (Post 754634)
Yeah - and the KY Derby is when they all leave the rail wide open for fear of getting trapped.

The last year that they ran a KY Derby with a 24 horse field - the longshot winner came right up the fence and you could have driven a semi up the rail.

Good point.

It's laughable how many short fields get the fave or second choice trapped on the rail.


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