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NTamm1215 01-02-2011 09:46 PM

Machen
 
3YO colt by Distorted Humor broke his maiden very impressively at Fair Grounds this afternoon (Race 9). He was bet down to 3-1 off of some very strong works and ran a huge race after breaking slowly and advancing on the far turn. A La bred N1X for older horses went a second and a fifth slower 30 minutes before off of a nearly identical half-mile.

His dam, Ready's Gal, broke her maiden at first asking at Saratoga in 2004 and won 7 of 17 lifetime including the Lake George, Matchmaker and Hillsborough.

Not many Neil Howard first timers are bet and run like that.

freddymo 01-03-2011 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by NTamm1215 (Post 739239)
3YO colt by Distorted Humor broke his maiden very impressively at Fair Grounds this afternoon (Race 9). He was bet down to 3-1 off of some very strong works and ran a huge race after breaking slowly and advancing on the far turn. A La bred N1X for older horses went a second and a fifth slower 30 minutes before off of a nearly identical half-mile.

His dam, Ready's Gal, broke her maiden at first asking at Saratoga in 2004 and won 7 of 17 lifetime including the Lake George, Matchmaker and Hillsborough.

Not many Neil Howard first timers are bet and run like that.

Would have thought the turf. Didn't Ready's Gal beat Wait it Out in the Lake George. There were some decent turf fillies that year.

Kasept 01-03-2011 07:49 AM

95 Beyer

freddymo 01-03-2011 08:19 AM

Al Stall's FTS was second, another guy who doesnt have them cranked early

Kasept 01-03-2011 07:06 PM

Neil Howard will visit ATR tomorrow to talk about him... Also eager to ask about AIN'T NO TELLIN', a Sam-Son Dynaformer homebred filly he debuts Thursday who is a half sister of memorable MGSW French Beret.

VOL JACK 01-03-2011 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by NTamm1215 (Post 739239)
3YO colt by Distorted Humor broke his maiden very impressively at Fair Grounds this afternoon (Race 9). He was bet down to 3-1 off of some very strong works and ran a huge race after breaking slowly and advancing on the far turn. A La bred N1X for older horses went a second and a fifth slower 30 minutes before off of a nearly identical half-mile.

His dam, Ready's Gal, broke her maiden at first asking at Saratoga in 2004 and won 7 of 17 lifetime including the Lake George, Matchmaker and Hillsborough.

Not many Neil Howard first timers are bet and run like that.

WOW.
any horse that breaks their maiden before the age of 5 for N. Howard is a serious colt.

Distorted Humor is probably the best debut sire going.

DaTruth 01-03-2011 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Kasept (Post 739354)
Neil Howard will visit ATR tomorrow to talk about him... Also eager to ask about AIN'T NO TELLIN', a Sam-Son Dynaformer homebred filly he debuts Thursday who is a half sister of memorable MGSW French Beret.

Neil has Grasshopper entered in the 8th on Saturday.

freddymo 01-04-2011 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Kasept (Post 739354)
Neil Howard will visit ATR tomorrow to talk about him... Also eager to ask about AIN'T NO TELLIN', a Sam-Son Dynaformer homebred filly he debuts Thursday who is a half sister of memorable MGSW French Beret.

Missed it what did Howard have to say?

Kasept 01-04-2011 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by freddymo (Post 739506)
Missed it what did Howard have to say?

Tomorrow.. Or Thursday. He was tied up until 10:30 and at that point we were booked solid. A bit booked out tomorrow too, so I'm thinking Thursday...

If you missed today, it featured Tony Dutrow, Seth Merrow, Dr. Allday, Andy Serling, Richard Migliore.

Kasept 01-04-2011 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Rare Bog (Post 739672)
Who does Dr. Allday vet for now? How many derby winners in a row did he have under his care?

Principally Todd Pletcher, Dale Romans & Tony Dutrow. Plus some other old friends like Neil Drysdale and Bill Cesare.

One Derby winner in a row I guess with Super Saver. Think the last before that was FuPeg, though he might have done some work with Monarchos but I'm not positive.

asudevil 01-04-2011 11:34 PM

Currently 100-1 at Wynn.

Dahoss 01-05-2011 01:13 AM

I'd like to take him at 100-1 to not be in the race.

Kasept 01-05-2011 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Rare Bog (Post 739750)
Is he in favor of Vet names and stats being listed in the form?

We've broached that topic, of which Thoro-Graph's Jerry Brown is a huge proponent, and I don't think Allday has any objection to it. But that concept is a quagmire in that there's generally more than one vet or equine service practitioner working on a given horse at any time.

Bigsmc 01-05-2011 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Kasept (Post 739780)
We've broached that topic, of which Thoro-Graph's Jerry Brown is a huge proponent, and I don't think Allday has any objection to it. But that concept is a quagmire in that there's generally more than one vet or equine service practitioner working on a given horse at any time.

Esp. at the lower levels.

Also, what do you do about the horses shipping in from off track? Honor system?

It would be a huge expense to police. The cheaters would just find a way around it. They could just use the listed vet for normal day to day activities and when they want to pop one, have Dr. Feelgood make a quick visit. If they're caught, they will have to give their horses to their assistants for 30 days. :rolleyes:

randallscott35 01-05-2011 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 739771)
I'd like to take him at 100-1 to not be in the race.

Even Howard doubts his distance ability and with that breeding, he will be a stretch to get 9 furlongs.

Kasept 01-05-2011 02:44 PM

Neil Howard today on ATR on Machen, Aint No Tellin' and Grasshopper

freddymo 01-05-2011 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Kasept (Post 739952)
Neil Howard today on ATR on Machen, Aint No Tellin' and Grasshopper

Nice guy..told the audience slightly more then zero?

Bigsmc 01-06-2011 04:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Rare Bog (Post 740097)
If an organization wants to make a policy work.... they make it work. I am not suggesting that this one notion solves a problem. However, sequenced with a series of changes it can tighten the noose.

I agree, but this issue is a horseplayer driven issue. The organizations, that could do anything about this specific issue, have no incentive to do anything about it.

What organization is going to step forward and invest the amount of money needed to kick the series of changes in gear? Would horseplayers step up to the plate and pay more for past performance information if the vets were listed, to help finance the needed effort? I doubt it.

Bigsmc 01-07-2011 03:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Rare Bog (Post 740416)
Therein lies the rub. Regardless of how much money is available, an industry needs to run their business correctly to keep customers and grow the customer base (not, as you suggest, pass along costs to the customers). However, Horse Racing is constantly confused as to who the customer is. It is the gambler. Instead, the industry panders to the owners and trainers. They have, individually, more money. They are rich folk and have long histories and experiences with lobbying industry to get their way. Collectively, they have sold themselves as the customer when, in fact, they are not. Business' that do not make the necessary investments in land, labor, and resources in order to feed their business properly are generally poorly run and starve to death over time. The track that exhibits a "gamblers first" mentality will be a successful track. The incentive, by the way, is sustainability.

Again, I agree.

On this particular topic, the industry will need proof that their product (handle) is being hurt by cheating trainers or they will keep their collective heads in the sand and carry on status quo.

Pressure from the likes of Jerry Brown and message board nerds is not going to force them into acting. Prove to them that the cheating trainers are hurting their product and they will take note.

mnmark 01-29-2011 11:38 PM

Machen is entered at FG tomorrow. He is comming back quick so he must be doing well. I look forward to seeing how he runs tomorrow.

DaTruth 01-30-2011 01:06 AM

Sour, who closed to finish second behind Machen, returns in the 3rd race at FG on Monday.


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