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I mentioned Mr. Prospector in an earlier thread today ...

Of the 20 horses who ran in this years Kentucky Derby - name the only one who does not have Mr. Prospector in his pedigree.

So Sooo SOOO EASY.....

Awesome Act

No - he's closely inbred to Mr. Prospector.

Still, not a bad guess at least, since he was a Euro import.

I will give you a hint - this horse and Espoir City were the only two BC Classic starters this year with no Mr. Prospector in their pedigree.

Looking at Lucky?

First Dude

Nope. his sire Smart Strike was sired by Mr. Prospector

Paddy O Prado, First Dude, Lucky I think its one of those 3.

It's Paddy O' Prado.

He's out of a Smart Strike mare - and he didn't run in the Derby - went Blue Grass-Preakness if I recall.

If you look up, you will see I already guessed him.

Yep.

Not First Dude, he's o/o a Smart Strike mare.

Both excellent points.

Will you do a write up on Silverbulletday compared to Z and Rachel?

Paddy o'Prado has no Mr. P.

No.

Silverbulletday's career is strikingly similar to Rachel Alexandra though. SBD developed a little sooner - and RA might have been just a touch more talented - they both "struggled" at age four but still ran strong numbers for older females.

If I remember correctly Silverbulletday was better than RA at 2, right?

So you dont mind doing beyers on horses from the 60's? How about you start a thread and take suggestions?

I would like to know how Bernardini and Point Given would stack up vs older greats? How about Giants Causeway's 1 dirt effort or his entire career? Rock Hard Tens career? Looking at SBD pp's I think she would have beat Z and Rachel on the norm. She fell off a bit, and I guess people can say Z never did, but she still ran fast A LOT.

What about Victory Gallops Foster and Whitney? As a deep closer, better then anything Z ever ran?

Victory Gallop would not have beaten Zenyatta's best 10f races until the late fall of his 3-year-old season.



He was basically an honest 105-to-108 type of horse through the summer of his 3yo season.

He developed into a 114-to-118 type of horse by late fall of his 3-year-old season on.

The ALW race where he only managed a 111 - that was at 8.5 at Gulfstream and the pace was slow (25 flat opening quarter)

His Dubai race was also probably slow paced (he tracked in 4th) - and he didn't have lasix for that race....he ran HORRIBLE as a 2yo without lasix.

But yeah, basically same running style as Zenyatta and he would have beat her going long as an older horse with lasix.

With Mr. Prospector and Storm Cat blood taking over - horses in general aren't quite as good going 10fs as they have been. Zenyatta does have Mr. Prospector in her pedigree .. but he's back a ways in the sire line - and Zenyatta has a ton of American stamina influences and Euro turf horses all over her pedigree. She's a lot better bred for 10fs than most horses today.

Foreign horses:

This great 3-year-old swept the English Derby, Irish Derby, and Arc.



Name him.

Sinndar?

Sinndar

Correct.

Sinndar beat a monster in the English Derby - this English Derby 2nd place finisher came back and had a monster 4-year-old year.



Name him.

Rock Hard Ten.

J/K.

Sakhee.

sinndar beat sakhee

Yes. Beat Hallow was 3rd by 6 lengths in that English Derby - he came to America and won 3 Grade 1's including the Arlington Million.

That was a great Euro 3yo crop - Sakhee, Sinndar, Giant's Causeway etc.


She was probably the star of Zimbabawe horse racing.



Name her.

Ipi Tombe

Correct.

A great year sprinting as a 4-year-old.



Name him

Anabaa

Correct. The sire of the great Goldikova.

Fixed

Oh stop, it was just Zenyatta being nice to her and letting her stay close.

10f on dirt at Belmont, track is fast but fair.
How does this race end up??? They are all healthy, in there prime. Normal Jockeys riding......

1. Ghostzapper
2. Rachel Alexandra
3. Point Given
4. Bernardini
5. Barbaro
6. Zenyatta
7. Tiznow
8. Giants Causeway
9. Quality Road
10. Victory Gallop
11. Eskendereya
12. Rock Hard Ten

Really? I know he look like he was very talented, but you couldn't find a better selection for that last spot?

He was freaky talented. It makes you wonder, is Todd like a true criminal?? He comes out in wraps, Todd says its nothing at all... Then he is retired 3 weeks later w/ career ending injury.

Agree about the freak, but how are you honestly supposed to rank/asses his chances against a bunch like that?

The thing is if they ran that race 10 times, you could get 10 different winners. QR would never win, Ill admit that. He would certainly hurt Ghostzapper though. Eskendereya would likely pull the best trip everytime.
Im looking for Doug to do a full write up. I want fractions, comments for each. Running lines. I want it all. I want his exacta, tri and super wager.

Walter Blum, Mr Prospectors Jockey

A. Was blind in one eye

B. Once President of the Jockeys Guild

C. Served as a racing steward

D. Won a triple crown race

E. A & D

F. All of the above

G. None of the above.