Championship Day at Belmont
 

I have a feeling these races are going to be a big disappointment from a betting perspective. Be warned.

A feeling? Your bold B. Its clear the races are horrible. Read the DRF preview article from the other day. The turf races are as bad as they have been in years. The only race even worth watching is the Beldame, if Rachel runs. According to DT.com public god Blame cant lose and is the best horse ever, so I guess the JCGC sucks.

Rail Trip will probably beat him. . . Keeneland can't come soon enough. Did you get that handicapping job or can I weasel my way in there?

I think the Joe Hirsch will be a really good betting race.

Gosh Gioia, what a spoilsport you are coming forward...

Joe Hirsch Invitational (10 of 14 nominees running plus Treat Gently)

Paddy O'Prado
Winchester
Al Khali
Treat Gently
Bearpath
Just as Well
Solitaire
Interpatation
Strike a Deal
Telling
Bourbon Bay

I know, Steve. I suck.

Jockey Club Gold Cup (7 of 14 nominated running. Musket Man lost to fever)

Blame (Garrett Gomez)
Fly Down (Jose Lezcano)
Haynesfield (Ramon Dominguez)
Hold Me Back (Rajiv Maragh)
Mythical Power (John Velazquez)
Rail Trip (Cornelio Velasquez)
Tranquil Manner (Alan Garcia)

I was told 3 weeks ago, after Del Mar that a decision would be made the first week of October. I have heard nothing from them, and was unhappy about a few things so I have not bothered to contact them. Im just waiting on the email/call. I was told I would be contacted either way.

How many horses in the Hirsch can actually win?

I'm not a "spoilsport". . . I was really looking forward to this day after the Saratoga letdown, but I just realized it's going to be like it is most years. Maybe the undercard will be good, but Mr. Pippit is running and he won't lose at a short price.

Um I actually think none of them can win, let me rephrase that. I dont think any of them deserve to win, I guess its Al Khali again. Maybe just wait till the Cup?

PoP doesn't deserve to win?

Paddy + Al Khali take up probably 90% of the win percentage.

I dont think he is very good, I have been clear about that since day 1.

This is a curious thread.

I suppose if you keep at it, he's bound to lose sooner or later. Which would mean you've been 'right' all along; right?:rolleyes:

I sort of regret starting it. . . It was partially due to Monday boredom.

I hope I'm wrong about the betting part. It should be good as a fan - there are some decent match-ups.

The undercard could still be good.

The curious thing to me is this... Now all of the sudden you regret starting a thread on the 3rd or 4th biggest day of racing in NY all year.

I didn't mean to make this a place for you to spew bad opinions - i.e. that Paddy isn't good.

He is OK at best, beating shitty horses. Who is the best horse Paddy has defeated? Interactif? How did he run a few days ago?

Says the Z#%*@^^@ lover.

He's a GRADE ONE winner!

No way. Grade 1s are Grade 1s for a reason. Hope for good weather.

Is anyone a little worried that Rachel might not be going in the Beldame? They haven't confirmed that she is and a four furlong bullet today feels a little close to the race considering the way they've been babying here. Maybe I'm crazy.

I just had one of those "Hey Kent maybe you could keep riding cause here comes Ice B... oh too late" moments.

I'm looking forward to the two year old turf races.

I wish Kingie were still around. This just reminded me of something.

We had this conversation / debate / fight (in a nice way) many many times.

I called it The Colonial Colony fight.

I think he called it the "a G1 horse isn't the same as a G1 winner" debate.

Good times.

It's a Dead Game laddy, all the value along with field size died when Saratoga ended. Churchill Fall Meet is the next opportunity for value on your betting dollar

Think about how nice a race the Beldame would be if the Cotillion wasn't the same day.

I don't think either the place or show horses in the Secretariat are all that "shitty."

They're not and Workin for Hops came back to run a nice race on Saturday losing to a horse that one of the "shitty" horses Paddy beat had previously beaten.

Having a conversation about whether Paddy O' Prado is a good horse and whether he's a Breeders' Cup Turf horse are somewhat mutually exclusive. He might be the best American turf horse heading into the BC and might get completely decimated given the relative lack of quality in this country in that division.

NT

It is of my opinion that Paddy O'Prado is the 3 year old HOY.

Decimated means " to reduce by 10%. "

Would obliterated capture it better?

Maybe his Beyer might be decimated.

If you pretended to not know what 'crossed the rubicon' meant - how can you be such a stickler with decimated.

Decimated sounds violent. It's a good sounding word in my book.

For what it's worth, the obsolete definition of decimated is to reduce by 10%. The first result when you look is: to destroy a great number or proportion of.

NT

That's fine.

It was an old school military tactic. I liked to read about Julius Caesar when I was a boy. I loved the way 'Art of War' was written. Huge fan of Hannibal and Atilla the Hun. Loved the story of the 300 Spartans at Thermopylae before Hollywood gay'd it up with that horrid movie. Romance of the Three Kingdoms was my favorite video game series.

I can imagine no place in history that would have been more fun to be than in winning gear right after one of those ancient wars - all set to rape and pillage. I can imagine no place more miserable in history than to be fighting on either side before or during the war.

Something tells me that if I was around in those days, I'd figure out a super sneaky way to jump in with the winning side right as they cross the wire.

What in the h*ll is wrong with you?!? :zz:

Just because such behavior isn't acceptable by society anymore doesn't mean it wouldn't have been fun.

When in Rome...