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onebadbeast 09-12-2010 04:00 PM

Worst Nfl Call Ever!
 
Bears Lions game clearly a touchdown by Detroit. Two feet down in the end zone, falls on his ass in the end zone and they call it incomplete? Total blown call by a ref who should be fired immediately!!!

Possibly a call worse than the Hockuli Charger Broncos call........

slotdirt 09-12-2010 05:45 PM

Way worse. Go down to the sports threads for the comments of a few folks.

ateamstupid 09-12-2010 05:59 PM

It's not the ref. It's the dumbass "process of the reception" rule. It's a serious problem in the rulebook and that was a travesty today.

MaTH716 09-12-2010 07:22 PM

Just saw it for the first time. Just a travesty.

slotdirt 09-12-2010 07:27 PM

I say it again - the ball only ends up on the ground because Johnson got up to celebrate. I would think that with every catch Calvin makes the remainder of this season, he possesses the ball long enough to hand it to the referee.

clyde 09-12-2010 07:36 PM

It was a fine call..the right call.

clyde 09-12-2010 07:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slotdirt (Post 694965)
Way worse. Go down to the sports threads for the comments of a few folks.

No...go to the smart threads, in the Padlock.

mclem0822 09-12-2010 09:09 PM

I missed the play at the time, only heard about it on the radio. I heared it was called a TD on the field and overturned upstairs, right? I have just seen it for the first time, and the call STUNK! The Rule STINKS! It was a DISGRACE to the game, the Bears were so horrible they didn't deserve this win, and Detroit was ROBBED!

clyde 09-12-2010 09:18 PM

Good.

slotdirt 09-13-2010 08:35 AM

The part I don't get about this a day later is what constitutes a "second motion." Why is spiking the ball considered a second motion, but placing the ball on the ground to celebrate doesn't? I just don't get it.

slotdirt 09-13-2010 08:46 AM

And I keep going back to the Lance Moore 2-point conversion from last year's Super Bowl. That was a TD - where the receiver literally had possession for .1 of a second - but this isn't?

MaTH716 09-13-2010 08:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slotdirt (Post 695101)
And I keep going back to the Lance Moore 2-point conversion from last year's Super Bowl. That was a TD - where the receiver literally had possession for .1 of a second - but this isn't?

Now this is just a guess.
But what I'm thinking is that Lance Moore caught the ball before the goaline. Then he reached over (made a slight move) and broke the plain of the goaline, such as when a RB carries the ball and breaks the plain. If a RB breaks the plain and fumbles it's still a TD, just like in the case of Moore. The play is over and it's a TD.

Now there is the ridiculous ruling on the reception that cost the Lions the game yesterday, where you must have possesion all the way through the play/action. I though he established possesion and it was just a terrible interpertion of the rule by the zebras.

That's my guess.

slotdirt 09-13-2010 09:08 AM

Right, the Moore play was clearly a different situation - the possessing the ball before breaking the plane as opposed to catching the ball in the end zone. I get that they're different rules, but Moore literally possessed the ball with two feet on the ground for a fraction of a second, and that was (correctly) called a 2-point conversion. Meanwhile, Calvin Johnson possesses the ball for almost two full seconds, comes down and places the ball on the ground to celebrate, and it's not a touchdown?

THe other thing is that if you read this rule in its entirely, one could easily argue that Johnson made the catch.

Crown@club 09-13-2010 11:27 AM

Rule is only 2nd worst, to the "Tuck Rule" :p

slotdirt 09-13-2010 11:31 AM

The tuck rule is just dumb. I still don't know why more guys don't just pump fake and then run around without touching the ball with their other hand. It's impossible to fumble in that situation.

MaTH716 09-13-2010 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crown@club (Post 695121)
Rule is only 2nd worst, to the "Tuck Rule" :p

The only good part is that the NFL will probably make some sort of rule change. The bad part is that it takes a team to get screwed out of a game because of it.
Unfortunately for the Raiders it might have cost them a trip to the Super Bowl.

onebadbeast 09-13-2010 11:44 AM

When you hear the word "process" involved in an NFL call, that says lawyer speak to me. Get these lawyer, salesman, part time idiots out of the ref game!

slotdirt 09-13-2010 12:09 PM

They never fixed the tuck rule though -that thing is still on the books.

chucklestheclown 09-15-2010 03:56 AM

It was part of a larger conspiracy to keep Lovie Smith as coach of the Bears.

hoovesupsideyourhead 09-15-2010 09:27 AM

we will take it..

randallscott35 09-15-2010 09:28 AM

The call was correct. The rule needs to be changed.

Crown@club 09-15-2010 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by randallscott35 (Post 695782)
The call was correct. The rule needs to be changed.

http://www.chicagobears.com/multimed...13&play_clip=Y

slotdirt 09-16-2010 08:47 AM

Yes, I'm going to take something from freaking ChicagoBears.com, i.e., the NFL, on this particular play as fact. Someone please explain to me why this was a catch in the CFL, Arena League, Pop Warner league, Lingerie League, the playground, and everywhere else on the planet aside from the NFL? I still disagree that the rule was written to interpret the Calvin Johnson play as a non-catch, regardless of what Chicago Bears fans and the NFL say.

Man, just when I was beginning to forget about this travesty and get ready for the pummeling the Eagles are going to lay on the Lions on Sunday, someone brings it back. Rar.

Crown@club 09-16-2010 09:42 AM

I'm not posting the video to say when the Bears got screwed on the same call. What I'm posting is the fact this incident has been called on other occasions. Unfortunately I don't have video of other teams getting screwed over the same call.

Chris Collinsworth and Jack Buck said in the video that 'if a player goes to the ground in the act of catching a pass, he must maintain control of the ball after he touches the ground.'

Like I said before its the 2nd worst rule in football behind the tuck rule.

Cannon Shell 09-16-2010 10:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crown@club (Post 696086)
I'm not posting the video to say when the Bears got screwed on the same call. What I'm posting is the fact this incident has been called on other occasions. Unfortunately I don't have video of other teams getting screwed over the same call.

Chris Collinsworth and Jack Buck said in the video that 'if a player goes to the ground in the act of catching a pass, he must maintain control of the ball after he touches the ground.'

Like I said before its the 2nd worst rule in football behind the tuck rule.

Jack Buck is dead

Crown@club 09-16-2010 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 696092)
Jack Buck is dead

I think I'll start calling Joe Buck, Francis.


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