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citycat 09-02-2010 06:14 AM

Anti-Horse Candidate for Ky Gov.
 
Kentucky Senate President David Williams and Richie Farmer, the state’s commissioner of agriculture, announced Sept. 1 their bid for governor and lieutenant governor, respectively, on a 2011 Republican ticket.

Democratic Gov. Steve Beshear will seek re-election in 2011. Beshear and his running mate, Louisville mayor Jerry Abramson, announced their candidacy earlier this year.

Williams in a release said Kentucky is “adrift” and needs strong leadership. Farmer, a former University of Kentucky basketball player, was quoted in recent published reports as saying he is interested in remaining in state government but his “dream job” would be that of UK athletic director.

Williams for years has been at odds with members of the Kentucky horse racing industry over his opposition to alternative gaming at racetracks.

Coach Pants 09-02-2010 07:39 AM

They'll win because dago mustache redneck Farmer played for the Cats.

philcski 09-02-2010 09:57 AM

Thankfully, I think he's got about a 0% chance to win. He's a piece of garbage and even the reddest of Republicans hate him.

Princess Doreen 09-02-2010 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by citycat (Post 691117)
Williams for years has been at odds with members of the Kentucky horse racing industry over his opposition to alternative gaming at racetracks.

How is being against alternative gambling being anti-horse as your topic title indicates?

citycat 09-02-2010 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Princess Doreen (Post 691192)
How is being against alternative gambling being anti-horse as your topic title indicates?

Is this a serious question?

Antitrust32 09-02-2010 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Princess Doreen (Post 691192)
How is being against alternative gambling being anti-horse as your topic title indicates?

other than ruining the Kentucky horse racing industry, nothing really.

But dont worry.. you guys have WEG and can just become pioneers in the show world.

Racing and breeding provides little money to the state anyway :rolleyes:

paisjpq 09-02-2010 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32 (Post 691266)
other than ruining the Kentucky horse racing industry, nothing really.

But dont worry.. you guys have WEG and can just become pioneers in the show world.
Racing and breeding provides little money to the state anyway :rolleyes:

if you have been following that story at all you know that the WEG is not even sure they are on track to break even...let alone make a profit.

Antitrust32 09-02-2010 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by paisjpq (Post 691268)
if you have been following that story at all you know that the WEG is not even sure they are on track to break even...let alone make a profit.

I havent been following it (though that sucks)... just being facetious.

Does your government do anything right in that state?

Coach Pants 09-02-2010 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32 (Post 691270)
I havent been following it (though that sucks)... just being facetious.

Does your government do anything right in that state?

No. We have a cash crop and it's illegal.

paisjpq 09-02-2010 12:24 PM

david williams is a scary bad guy...

from his 2007 essay on the subject:
The most troubling aspect I find in the gambling proponents’ disingenuous arguments is their assertion the taxes generated on gambling activity will come at no cost. States with casinos are breeding grounds for political and social ills that create a destabilizing effect on families. Every dollar that is spent in a Kentucky casino will go out of circulation instead of being spent for
necessities. People from all walks of life will contribute to this tax. However, the ones who will be hurt the most are those who lose the money they and their families need for rent, utilities, and food. The loss of that money and the corrupt activity that will come after that, the increased crime rate, the increased divorce and family violence rate, the increased social problems all help negate the perceived “benefit” of expanded gambling. The crime rates in casino communities are 84% higher than the national average. Bankruptcies also rise as predatory lenders prey on the vulnerable.


this from a guy who goes out of state to play black jack...but hes gonna save the poor buy not allowing that evil into the great commonwealth. I wish UK would just give him that athletic director job he keeps whining that he wants...

Antitrust32 09-02-2010 12:30 PM

I love how goverments these days tell you exactly how to live... yet do the opposite themselves. How dare you spend money on entertainment! You have rent to pay! You are killing your children!

Stay out of our damn lives. And let industries do things that will allow them to prosper.

Cannon Shell 09-02-2010 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by paisjpq (Post 691268)
if you have been following that story at all you know that the WEG is not even sure they are on track to break even...let alone make a profit.

But we do have wider roads now!

Cannon Shell 09-02-2010 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by paisjpq (Post 691275)
david williams is a scary bad guy...

from his 2007 essay on the subject:
The most troubling aspect I find in the gambling proponents’ disingenuous arguments is their assertion the taxes generated on gambling activity will come at no cost. States with casinos are breeding grounds for political and social ills that create a destabilizing effect on families. Every dollar that is spent in a Kentucky casino will go out of circulation instead of being spent for
necessities. People from all walks of life will contribute to this tax. However, the ones who will be hurt the most are those who lose the money they and their families need for rent, utilities, and food. The loss of that money and the corrupt activity that will come after that, the increased crime rate, the increased divorce and family violence rate, the increased social problems all help negate the perceived “benefit” of expanded gambling. The crime rates in casino communities are 84% higher than the national average. Bankruptcies also rise as predatory lenders prey on the vulnerable.


this from a guy who goes out of state to play black jack...but hes gonna save the poor buy not allowing that evil into the great commonwealth. I wish UK would just give him that athletic director job he keeps whining that he wants...

He is simply on the take. Obviously KY politicians are small time crooks compared to their breathren in IL or NY but this guys agenda is completely scripted for him. The problem is that the Dems are running two complete idiots against him. Seriously Delonte West and Dalakahni would be a more attractive pairing than either of these two clown parties.

Coach Pants 09-03-2010 07:10 AM

This...is....FANCY FARRRRRRRM!!!!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ze4AVCrqZdw

Princess Doreen 09-03-2010 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by citycat (Post 691250)
Is this a serious question?

No - it was rhetorical, but I appreciate your sarcastic non-reply. The man is NOT "anti-horse".

paisjpq 09-03-2010 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Princess Doreen (Post 691633)
No - it was rhetorical, but I appreciate your sarcastic non-reply. The man is NOT "anti-horse".

he doesnt give a crap about the horse industry or the racing industry, (in a state where horses account for 4 billion dollar impact on our economy)...so, by proxy, he becomes anti-horse. where are your examples to contradict citycat's assertion?

philcski 09-03-2010 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Princess Doreen (Post 691633)
No - it was rhetorical, but I appreciate your sarcastic non-reply. The man is NOT "anti-horse".

Review his voting record and you might rethink your stance.

paisjpq 09-03-2010 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by philcski (Post 691705)
Review his voting record and you might rethink your stance.

she doesnt have time...too busy comandeering sciacca's owner box at saratoga...

Antitrust32 09-03-2010 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by paisjpq (Post 691691)
he doesnt give a crap about the horse industry or the racing industry, (in a state where horses account for 4 billion dollar impact on our economy)...so, by proxy, he becomes anti-horse. where are your examples to contradict citycat's assertion?

he seems to be anti-Kentucky in general.

paisjpq 09-03-2010 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32 (Post 691713)
he seems to be anti-Kentucky in general.

oh no...he likes basketball.

Antitrust32 09-03-2010 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by paisjpq (Post 691714)
oh no...he likes basketball.

oh thats right!! its the only thing that matters in the Blue Grass

clyde 09-03-2010 12:06 PM

I think he might be UnclyKentucky....has a wow factor to it.




Kentucky should be absorbed by West Virginia.

philcski 09-03-2010 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by clyde (Post 691716)
I think he might be UnclyKentucky....has a wow factor to it.




Ohio should be absorbed by Kentucky... or Canada

FTFY

clyde 09-03-2010 12:27 PM

Kentucky is merely a collection of Ohio residue collected by the great Ohio River and dumped south.



Kentucky's only calim to fame is being the only foreign soil on which a Canadian Spaceship has successfully landed.

citycat 09-03-2010 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Princess Doreen (Post 691633)
No - it was rhetorical, but I appreciate your sarcastic non-reply. The man is NOT "anti-horse".


He most certainly is anti-horse, anyone in the business knows this and does not have to have it explained to them. Look at his voting record and campaign contributors and you can quickly figure it out. Maybe you should stick with something you know...............photography.

Princess Doreen 09-03-2010 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by citycat (Post 691998)
He most certainly is anti-horse, anyone in the business knows this and does not have to have it explained to them. Look at his voting record and campaign contributors and you can quickly figure it out. Maybe you should stick with something you know...............photography.

I'm going strictly by the sentence in your post - "Williams for years has been at odds with members of the Kentucky horse racing industry over his opposition to alternative gaming at racetracks."

I don't see that as anti-horse which to me indicates the guy hates horses. Just feel the title of your topic was misleading.

Oh, yeah, thanks for the compliment about the photography. I really needed a lift.:rolleyes:

AND, I'm pretty sure the seats we have are roomier and much more comfortable than anything Gary has to offer.;)

paisjpq 09-03-2010 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Princess Doreen (Post 692013)
I'm going strictly by the sentence in your post - "Williams for years has been at odds with members of the Kentucky horse racing industry over his opposition to alternative gaming at racetracks."

I don't see that as anti-horse which to me indicates the guy hates horses. Just feel the title of your topic was misleading.

Oh, yeah, thanks for the compliment about the photography. I really needed a lift.:rolleyes:

AND, I'm pretty sure the seats we have are roomier and much more comfortable than anything Gary has to offer.;)

do you know anything at all about politics in KY and the players that make our policy? if not, sit down, shut up and try to learn something rather then whining over semantics in someones thread title...whats next? too many DT members in your win photo?

clyde 09-03-2010 09:36 PM

I have to whizz.

paisjpq 09-03-2010 09:37 PM

try to make it outside this time..

clyde 09-03-2010 09:38 PM

Then stop holding................me here.



It burns!!

I must go.

paisjpq 09-03-2010 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by clyde (Post 692068)
Then stop holding................me here.



It burns!!

I must go.

they have pills for that

Princess Doreen 09-03-2010 09:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by paisjpq (Post 692059)
do you know anything at all about politics in KY and the players that make our policy? if not, sit down, shut up and try to learn something rather then whining over semantics in someones thread title...whats next? too many DT members in your win photo?

I'll sit down and shut up when I damn well feel like it. I know Dem psycho babble when I read it.

Cheap shot chumps, the lot of you who hurl abuse on anyone who disagrees with you.

paisjpq 09-03-2010 09:52 PM

dem psycho babble? are you serious? check the list or REPUBLICAN horsemen and women who will tell you the same thing. You could start with Bill Farish.

clyde 09-03-2010 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by paisjpq (Post 692070)
they have pills for that



Well the kind Mother gives you sure don't help much...so I would hope so.I think you have got The Printheth'th dander up.



Don't give a wise guy answer.

I already know them.

Antitrust32 09-04-2010 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Princess Doreen (Post 692071)
I'll sit down and shut up when I damn well feel like it. I know Dem psycho babble when I read it.

Cheap shot chumps, the lot of you who hurl abuse on anyone who disagrees with you.

this post is a load of crap.

Dem psycho babble? how about the truth?

clyde 09-04-2010 03:28 PM

^^^^ Pyscho Lesbo..has teeth.

clyde 09-04-2010 06:43 PM

Kentucky has just announced it's frist successeful launch of a rocket ship.



Yes.



It is ,as we speak, cicrling a large cloud formation about-----oh....say 3300 feet above.

Those hillbillies will get there...sooner or later.

Pedigree Ann 09-04-2010 09:18 PM

David Williams is interested in nothing but furthering the interests of David Williams. He has used his position as his party's leader in the Senate to block, torpedo, or bury many bills that his own party has wanted, simply because he didn't get what HE wanted out of them or because Democrats introduced them. And he actively panders to the rural, religious vote (post those 10 Commandments!) while taking part in one of the very activities they abhor (gambling!).

Richie Farmer is one of 'The Unforgettables' - the four scholarship players at UK who stayed and played after Sutton got them on probation. Sticking by the team when it was in trouble won him lots of admirers. There have been a lot of Farmers who have played basketball and a fair number who have gone into politics in Eastern Kentucky. I know nothing to his detriment, other than he agreed to be on the ticket with Williams.

paisjpq 09-05-2010 09:23 AM

there is no question that Farmer is the popular side of the equation, and doesn't have much negative press at this point. Although there was an article last week regarding his wasteful spending on new vehicles for his depatment. While it was clearly an attempt to plant a negative seed just before the announcement, it also should not be taken lightly...if he isnt willing to cut costs within his own department in a very bad economy, what are his plans for the whole state when he's second in command?

clyde 09-05-2010 09:51 AM

I have to whizz again.


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