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The Indomitable DrugS 08-13-2010 07:51 AM

Contract year
 
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"Easily the most impressive player in camp so far"
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"During camp, Moss has had that quick first step and extra gear, particularly on the long bomb routes, as he’s easily beaten the younger corners, Darius Butler and Devin McCourty. The past few days during the joint practice sessions with New Orleans, he also made the Saints secondary look slow
The still pictures have him looking more fit than ever before.





19-0 this year?

Will the '10 Pats join the '07 Pats and '98 Vikes as the three highest scoring offenses in NFL history?

Discuss ...

Antitrust32 08-13-2010 08:03 AM

no.


more importantly for this Contract year.


Will there be professional football next year?

Brandon Marshall says no, and that he's going to try out for the NBA during the lockout next year.

Will the NFL become the MLB of the 90's?

The Indomitable DrugS 08-13-2010 08:38 AM

Sun 9/12/2010 1:00 PM vs Bengals - Pats by 24
Sun 9/19/2010 4:15 PM @ Jets - Pats by 14
Sun 9/26/2010 1:00 PM vs Bills - Pats by 31
Mon 10/4/2010 8:30 PM @ Dolphins - Pats by 10
Sun 10/10/2010 vs Bye
Sun 10/17/2010 1:00 PM vs Ravens - Pats by 17
Sun 10/24/2010 4:15 PM @ Chargers - Pats by 1
Sun 10/31/2010 4:15 PM vs Vikings - Pats by 10
Sun 11/7/2010 1:00 PM @ Browns - Pats by 21
Sun 11/14/2010 8:20 PM @ Steelers - Pats by 3
Sun 11/21/2010 4:15 PM vs Colts - Pats by 14
Thu 11/25/2010 12:30 PM @ Lions - Pats by 28
Mon 12/6/2010 8:30 PM vs Jets - Pats by 10
Sun 12/12/2010 1:00 PM @ Bears - Pats by 4
Sun 12/19/2010 8:20 PM vs Packers - Pats by 7
Sun 12/26/2010 1:00 PM @ Bills - Pats by 6
Sun 1/2/2011 1:00 PM vs Dolphins - Pats by 17

Season record: 16-0

GBBob 08-13-2010 08:49 AM

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The Indomitable DrugS 08-13-2010 08:58 AM

Everyone is down on New England and picking them to finish 3rd in their division because of how they faded last year.

Brady was playing through 6 broken ribs, Moss had a seperated shoulder at the start of the season and developed a back injury so bad that he couldn't touch the top of his helmet without feeling pain. Welker got hurt in the final reg season game - and his replacement Edellman was a college qb the year prior and had to play with a broken forearm late in the season.

That's not a healthy team .. but they still won a tough AFC East despite fading down the stretch anyway.

ateamstupid 08-13-2010 09:15 AM

The Pats are on the decline dude, start accepting it.

The Indomitable DrugS 08-13-2010 09:25 AM

You're going to get incredible football out of Moss this year. It's his last shot at scoring one more final fat contract.

Brady was coming off of a major injury last year and played through more injury. Look what Favre did last year when healthy .. and Favre is older than dirt. Brady isn't.

How bad can a Bellichik coached defense be?

ateamstupid 08-13-2010 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS (Post 682466)
You're going to get incredible football out of Moss this year. It's his last shot at scoring one more final fat contract.

Brady was coming off of a major injury last year and played through more injury. Look what Favre did last year when healthy .. and Favre is older than dirt. Brady isn't.

How bad can a Bellichik coached defense be?

Pretty goddamn mediocre. He's drafted terribly the past few years. And enough with the excuses for the offense already.

http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/teamdef
http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/teamdef2008

The Indomitable DrugS 08-13-2010 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid (Post 682471)
Pretty goddamn mediocre. He's drafted terribly the past few years. And enough with the excuses for the offense already.

http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/teamdef
http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/teamdef2008

The two teams who played in last years Super Bowl are 14th and 15th ... and NE is 16th?

Mayo and Marryweather are quality starters coming into what should be the prime of their career. The rookie CB they took in the first round looked good starting yesterday.

The offense is basically the same group that set the NFL record for points scored in 2007. It's the same offense that went 11-5 under Matt Cassell in 2008.

The offense finished 6th in the NFL in total points scored last year .. despite the "excuses" of injuries to your best players.

Coach Pants 08-13-2010 09:44 AM

It's too early for this s.hit.

ateamstupid 08-13-2010 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS (Post 682480)
The two teams who played in last years Super Bowl are 14th and 15th ... and NE is 16th?

Mayo and Marryweather are quality starters coming into what should be the prime of their career. The rookie CB they took in the first round looked good starting yesterday.

The offense is basically the same group that set the NFL record for points scored in 2007. It's the same offense that went 11-5 under Matt Cassell in 2008.

The offense finished 6th in the NFL in total points scored last year .. despite the "excuses" of injuries to your best players.

Yes, because Indianapolis and New Orleans are known for their defenses. Don't argue with the stats, ROI boy. The Pats' defense hasn't been good in several years and it's the same offense, except three years older and with a crappier offensive line and an even crappier running game. A true contender doesn't get embarrassed at home in the playoffs like that, I don't care what your excuses are. They've done enough.

The Indomitable DrugS 08-13-2010 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid (Post 682493)
A true contender doesn't get embarrassed at home in the playoffs like that, I don't care what your excuses are. They've done enough.

I hear ya, health is overrated.

Draft Moss in your fantasy league. 3Kings did in the DT Fantasy League last year - and he won the league.

ateamstupid 08-13-2010 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS (Post 682498)
I hear ya, health is overrated.

Draft Moss in your fantasy league. 3Kings did in the DT Fantasy League last year - and he won the league.

Boo effing hoo. They were healthy enough to win the division, then they took it in the ass at home to the 6-seed. You're lying to yourself if you think the days of their dominance haven't passed.

The Indomitable DrugS 08-13-2010 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid (Post 682500)
You're lying to yourself if you think the days of their dominance haven't passed.

Even if I was - what the hell do I know? I thought the days of the Colts dominance passed a year and a half ago - and they were big Super Bowl favorites last year even without Bob Sanders.

The days of Moss's dominance obviously haven't passed if you read the reports coming out of the Pats training camp by everyone covering them.

Do you really think Brady is toast at this young of an age? I've seen guys like Rich Gannon and Brett Favre play otherworldly at qb while older than dirt.

The running game will be there at will if Moss is there with the deep ball. That's how offenses end up unstoppable when he gets going.

Torry Holt is a future hall of fame receiver that's younger than Moss - that rookie tight end out of Arizona can block like a mofo - Welker and Edellman are good system guys in the slot.

The only thing I don't feel good about is the offensive line and the defense - but I think there's a good chance both will be competent.

ateamstupid 08-13-2010 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS (Post 682516)
Even if I was - what the hell do I know?

Stick with that thought. When you start bragging about Torry Holt and a blocking TE, it's time to hang it up for the thread.

RockHardTen1985 08-13-2010 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS (Post 682447)
Sun 9/12/2010 1:00 PM vs Bengals - Pats by 24
Sun 9/19/2010 4:15 PM @ Jets - Pats by 14
Sun 9/26/2010 1:00 PM vs Bills - Pats by 31
Mon 10/4/2010 8:30 PM @ Dolphins - Pats by 10
Sun 10/10/2010 vs Bye
Sun 10/17/2010 1:00 PM vs Ravens - Pats by 17
Sun 10/24/2010 4:15 PM @ Chargers - Pats by 1
Sun 10/31/2010 4:15 PM vs Vikings - Pats by 10
Sun 11/7/2010 1:00 PM @ Browns - Pats by 21
Sun 11/14/2010 8:20 PM @ Steelers - Pats by 3
Sun 11/21/2010 4:15 PM vs Colts - Pats by 14
Thu 11/25/2010 12:30 PM @ Lions - Pats by 28
Mon 12/6/2010 8:30 PM vs Jets - Pats by 10
Sun 12/12/2010 1:00 PM @ Bears - Pats by 4
Sun 12/19/2010 8:20 PM vs Packers - Pats by 7
Sun 12/26/2010 1:00 PM @ Bills - Pats by 6
Sun 1/2/2011 1:00 PM vs Dolphins - Pats by 17

Season record: 16-0



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randallscott35 08-13-2010 10:20 AM

Kind of stunned they didn't win the Bye week either Doug.

RockHardTen1985 08-13-2010 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid (Post 682457)
The Pats are on the decline dude, start accepting it.


We are not in decline... THIS IS THE BEST TEAM EVER.

Crown@club 08-13-2010 10:23 AM

Torry Holt is going to get cut.

MaTH716 08-13-2010 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 682521)
We are not in decline... THIS IS THE BEST TEAM EVER.

The final nail in the coffin..................

The Indomitable DrugS 08-13-2010 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Crown@club (Post 682523)
Torry Holt is going to get cut.

If that happens - I guess his days of dominance have passed in a hurry.

RockHardTen1985 08-13-2010 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by MaTH716 (Post 682524)
The final nail in the coffin..................


We shall see.

Antitrust32 08-13-2010 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid (Post 682517)
Stick with that thought. When you start bragging about Torry Holt and a blocking TE, it's time to hang it up for the thread.

that rookie TE from AZ is going to be a major force. maybe not his rookie year, but he will be a great TE in the league.

That guy is unreal.

The Indomitable DrugS 08-13-2010 10:33 AM

He looks like strictly a blocking tight end the best I could tell from yesteday - but he blocks well from the looks of it.

The other TE that was a high draft pick - the one from Florida - he wasn't impressive.

Antitrust32 08-13-2010 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS (Post 682534)
He looks like strictly a blocking tight end the best I could tell from yesteday - but he blocks well from the looks of it.

The other TE that was a high draft pick - the one from Florida - he wasn't impressive.

Hernandez is more of a reciever / te than a true TE. They run the spread at Florida and the TE position is built around catching and scoring TD's there.

Hernandez has decent speed & good hands, though who knows how that will translate to the NFL though.

Gronkowski, on the other hand, is an absolute beast. If he can stay healthy, he will be a force for a long long time.

He is a terrific blocker, and has GREAT hands. Best player to come from the U of A in a long long time (not that it means much). He had a cult like following at U of A.

Was out last year from a back injury, but in the two years he started, he put up unheard of TE #'s. 75 catches, 1,197 yards and 16 TD (that stat alone is ridiculous)

The man had such soft hands, and is so big (6'5 1/2" 265 lbs), that once he has a year or two in the league, even NFL linebackers wont be a match for him. He lowers his shoulders and runs over anyone. Will drag a LB 10 yards after being hit.

You guys got a real player. I hope he stays healthy.

Crown@club 08-13-2010 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS (Post 682529)
If that happens - I guess his days of dominance have passed in a hurry.

He lost it last year and possibly the year before. It says a lot when he campaigned hard for the Bears to sign him, and Martz never gave any blessing to sign Holt.

Crown@club 08-13-2010 03:23 PM

Ty Warren is done for the season. That NE's best DL. Well Aaron Schobel is available.


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