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TouchOfGrey 06-04-2010 12:30 PM

A different tune will kick off the Belmont Stakes
 
A different tune will kick off the Belmont Stakes

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NEW YORK (AP)—Start spreading the news: Sinatra’s out at the Belmont Stakes.

The New York Racing Association says Frank Sinatra’s classic version of “New York, New York” is being replaced by “Empire State of Mind” as the music heard when the horses step onto the track for the $1 million Belmont on Saturday.

The change is being made because Jay-Z’s “Empire State of Mind” has become a “quintessential 21st century theme song for New York City,” says NYRA marketing director Neema Ghazi.

“New York, New York” replaced “Sidewalks of New York” in 1997.
:confused:

randallscott35 06-04-2010 12:38 PM

Yuck

Sightseek 06-04-2010 12:39 PM

Crinkle




trash can.

OldDog 06-04-2010 01:06 PM

“I’m the new Sinatra..."

Yeah, right :rolleyes:

Just for kicks I googled the lyrics. I wonder if they put them up on video so the crowd can chant along?

MaTH716 06-04-2010 01:11 PM

That is just horrible.

Antitrust32 06-04-2010 01:15 PM

You've got to be kidding me.

Cannon Shell 06-04-2010 01:31 PM

Who the hell cares...

parsixfarms 06-04-2010 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32 (Post 653967)
You've got to be kidding me.

Exactly my thoughts.

TouchOfGrey 06-04-2010 01:35 PM

Update from the Paulick Report

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UPDATE: After conflicting reports from news outlets that directly quoted from Jay-Z’s ‘Empire State of Mind’, it has come to the attention of the Paulick Report that the version in question is actually the Alicia Keys version which is a huge difference in content. While she is on the original Jay-Z version, her full ‘Empire State of Mind’ is a much classier rendition of the song.

Linny 06-04-2010 02:10 PM

Oh, that's great. We get the "classier" version of the song. I'm afraid to ask what the low brow version sounds like.

I want "Sidewalks of New York" back quite honestly.

Bigsmc 06-04-2010 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 653976)
Who the hell cares...

:tro::tro:

OldDog 06-04-2010 02:34 PM

After brief consideration . . . and some Woodford on the rocks . . . perhaps it's best that a song is used to which the crowd cannot sing along. Invariably I cringe as the TV mic picks up a segment of the crowd singing pathetically off-key. Last month I distinctly heard a chorus or horrible attempts during the playing of my beloved My Old Kentucky Home, which thank God is played (not sung) each year by a university band that does the job right. Note to NBC: A mic on the band ONLY will suffice, thank you. Don't put one on the drunks in the crowd. And while Sinatra was one of the best, the sight of folks arm in arm attempting to dance step to NYNY would be a signal that it's a good time to hit the head before the race.

my miss storm cat 06-04-2010 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Linny (Post 654003)
Oh, that's great. We get the "classier" version of the song. I'm afraid to ask what the low brow version sounds like.

I want "Sidewalks of New York" back quite honestly.

HOnestly the original is God awful but her version without him? The haha classier one?

That one is even worse.

I usually couldn't care less about stuff like this but this song in either version is truly awful.

dylbert 06-04-2010 03:11 PM

After demise of NYRA and legalization of pari-mutuel betting in Georgia, Belmont will move to new Atlanta track and Ray Charles' rendition of Georgia on My Mind will be played... or Willie Nelson's. Damn, here we go again... or Sweet Georgia Brown...

lemoncrush 06-04-2010 04:06 PM

I always thought they played "New York Groove" off the Ace Frehley solo album back in the late 70's. ;)

jballscalls 06-04-2010 05:18 PM

i thought people of all generations liked Sinatra??

aw well, change is always in the air

Linny 06-04-2010 10:24 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UjsXo9l6I8

Nothing says Belmont Stakes to me like ^:confused:



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Em5UYOs0Mg

One presumes that they won't be using this version ^:eek: (includes lyrics, not for the squeamish...)

eajinabi 06-04-2010 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 653976)
Who the hell cares...

:tro::tro::tro::tro:

eajinabi 06-04-2010 10:36 PM

Camptown races

AlreadyHome 06-04-2010 10:49 PM

nice
 
that Jay z Empire state of mind Song Belongs to the All mighty NY Yankees :tro:

Frank owns Belmont. :{>:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aqlJl1LfDP4

richard burch 06-04-2010 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by lemoncrush (Post 654066)
I always thought they played "New York Groove" off the Ace Frehley solo album back in the late 70's. ;)

that is a great song.

ateamstupid 06-05-2010 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 653976)
Who the hell cares...

Exactly my thoughts.

I'm a big Sinatra fan, but ESoM was the city's anthem last year and they obviously want to go in a more youthful direction. NY, NY gets played every goddamn game at Yankee Stadium, it's not as if there's nowhere to hear it anymore.

richard burch 06-05-2010 12:30 AM

Sacrilege
 
this whole song thing pisses me off and i don't even like the song n.y n.y.

with all the b.s. going on with N.Y. racing you have to wonder what knuckle head said" yeah, that sounds like a good idea. lets change the song that we have been singing for years to show everyone we're on top of it.
lets not worry about casinos, bankruptcy and OTB's right now. lets just fluck with everyone and do something symbolic"

what do you think they expect to gain by changing the song? payola?

i believe they should not only sing n.y. n.y. but have liza come out and perform it.

i just saw her on joy behar and she looks great!

ateamstupid 06-05-2010 12:33 AM

Yes, let's all listen to the male Liza Minnelli fan. Because changing a song no one listens to means they're not worrying about their big issues.

richard burch 06-05-2010 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid (Post 654230)
Yes, let's all listen to the male Liza Minnelli fan. Because changing a song no one listens to means they're not worrying about their big issues.

hey now!

ateamstupid 06-05-2010 12:35 AM

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Originally Posted by richard burch (Post 654231)
hey now!

:p

westcoastinvader 06-05-2010 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by richard burch (Post 654231)
hey now!


"East Side-West Side" was seriously dated, stale and empty 40 years ago.

"New York-New York" always seemed artificial, shallow and self centered.


Though apt, perhaps.

But I'm open to new things.

I could have cozied up to Billy Joel's "New York State of Mind."

richard burch 06-05-2010 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid (Post 654234)
:p

your right.

their "to do" list was:

#1. fix or get rid of OTB.

#2. get a VLT's/casino at aqueduct. (like 5 years later)

#3.change that annoying song before the belmont stakes.

They probably said:

"well we f'd up the first two so lets just move on to #3.
Oh! that we can do!"

ateamstupid 06-05-2010 12:46 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-ss1...eature=related

The original's too slow, so this is my suggestion. I'm sure DT'ers will love it.

richard burch 06-05-2010 12:48 AM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid (Post 654238)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-ss1...eature=related

The original's too slow, so this is my suggestion.

what does the verse" they shot pac 5 times" have to do with the belmont stakes?

ateamstupid 06-05-2010 12:52 AM

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Originally Posted by richard burch (Post 654240)
what does the verse" they shot pac 5 times" have to do with the belmont stakes?

What does anything in Sinatra's song have to do with the Belmont Stakes? I'm all for just looping the chorus. I also think it was Liza who shot Pac.

richard burch 06-05-2010 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid (Post 654242)
What does anything in Sinatra's song have to do with the Belmont Stakes? I'm all for just looping the chorus. I also think it was Liza who shot Pac.

at least there is no mention of killing in n.y n.y.

anyway, we will have to continue this conversation later as it is almost 2 am here and there is a big race later today.

nice chatting with you and good luck with your picks1 let me know how you do.

i'm going with ice box and 5 horses underneath.

AlreadyHome 06-05-2010 01:12 AM

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Originally Posted by richard burch (Post 654243)
at least there is no mention of killing in n.y n.y.

anyway, we will have to continue this conversation later as it is almost 2 am here and there is a big race later today.

nice chatting with you and good luck with your picks1 let me know how you do.

i'm going with ice box and 5 horses underneath.

New York New York so nice they name it twice lol this new york song is raw..

but the Jay Z an Alicia Keys is the best fit
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5H7dxtPXLSQ

jwkniska 06-05-2010 05:31 PM

was so good that ABC booted it for a commercial... bring back Frank!

Left Bank 06-05-2010 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by jwkniska (Post 654482)
was so good that ABC booted it for a commercial... bring back Frank!

Payback for no Manhattan!

jwkniska 06-05-2010 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Left Bank (Post 654486)
Payback for no Manhattan!

great point!

Merlinsky 06-05-2010 05:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by richard burch (Post 654240)
what does the verse" they shot pac 5 times" have to do with the belmont stakes?

I'm guessing Tupac gave someone a bad tip on a horse once?

richard burch 06-06-2010 12:29 AM

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Originally Posted by jwkniska (Post 654482)
was so good that ABC booted it for a commercial... bring back Frank!

thank you. that was really, really bad. (no disrespect to the singer)

just a bad idea.

Coach Pants 06-06-2010 08:37 AM

Next year they need to represent one of the boroughs...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcsEop0NPGM

Merlinsky 06-06-2010 12:32 PM

Joe Drape apparently tweeted last night that he'd have no problem with replacing New York, New York with Empire State of Mind. That right there is another reason not to change.


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