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Coach Pants 05-01-2010 10:03 PM

Times Square Evacuated...Bomb Found
 
http://www.seattlepi.com/national/11...car_smoke.html

SCUDSBROTHER 05-02-2010 05:39 AM

No pink buckets of KFC?

Danzig 05-02-2010 08:48 AM

good thing it didn't fully detonate.

Riot 05-04-2010 02:47 PM

NYC PD detectives and the FBI rocks. Well done. Very well done.

ArlJim78 05-04-2010 03:07 PM

Wait until these guys actually figure out how to make the bombs go off. it looks like we're sitting ducks.

SOREHOOF 05-04-2010 03:25 PM

He was an American Citizen for one year. At least he wasn't here illegally. Probably pi**ed off at the prez.

ArlJim78 05-04-2010 04:13 PM

yeah he has been a citizen since 4/19/2009 but since that time was in Pakistan for 8 months.

SOREHOOF 05-04-2010 05:39 PM

I thought they were looking for a middle aged white guy? Is everyone afraid to say "middle eastern looking fella"? Is it better to be dead than called a racist? Did the media convince themselves it was a member of the Tea Party? This politically correct Bullsh it is going to get a lot of people in this country killed. Now we are supposed to believe his house getting foreclosed on was some kind of trigger? NEWS FLASH>>>>> This guy was a frikking ISLAMIC terrorist before he applied for citizenship. The legal immigration policy in this country may be even worse than the illegal immigration policy (non-policy?). How many more like him are here already?

hi_im_god 05-04-2010 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by SOREHOOF (Post 644142)
I thought they were looking for a middle aged white guy? Is everyone afraid to say "middle eastern looking fella"? Is it better to be dead than called a racist? Did the media convince themselves it was a member of the Tea Party? This politically correct Bullsh it is going to get a lot of people in this country killed. Now we are supposed to believe his house getting foreclosed on was some kind of trigger? NEWS FLASH>>>>> This guy was a frikking ISLAMIC terrorist before he applied for citizenship. The legal immigration policy in this country may be even worse than the illegal immigration policy (non-policy?). How many more like him are here already?

excellent rant. it has all the key elements. incorrect assumptions piled on pre-existing resentments leading to ridiculous conclusions.

i wonder how foolish you'll feel once you realize the guy in the video isn't the one they arrested.

i'm guessing not at all. you'll just bull through life as usual. no reason inconvenient truths should affect your opinion.

Coach Pants 05-04-2010 10:21 PM

OK, Officer Barbrady.

SOREHOOF 05-06-2010 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hi_im_god (Post 644213)
excellent rant. it has all the key elements. incorrect assumptions piled on pre-existing resentments leading to ridiculous conclusions.

i wonder how foolish you'll feel once you realize the guy in the video isn't the one they arrested.

i'm guessing not at all. you'll just bull through life as usual. no reason inconvenient truths should affect your opinion.

Where is the inconvenient truth? Islamist terrorists are hell bent on killing Americans in America? I never thought it was the guy in the video was the attempted bomber. This guy made it past the no-fly list and was dragged out of his seat and off the plane. Pre-existing resentments? Such as? The left making excuses for every terrorist act, while failing to connect the dot? They all seem to have 1 thing in common. Islam. The last thing the left wants to do is offend an Islamist terrorist by calling them out on the same grounds that they use as justifacation for mass murder. Islam. Allah Akbar.

hi_im_god 05-06-2010 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by SOREHOOF (Post 644798)
Where is the inconvenient truth? Islamist terrorists are hell bent on killing Americans in America? I never thought it was the guy in the video was the attempted bomber. This guy made it past the no-fly list and was dragged out of his seat and off the plane. Pre-existing resentments? Such as? The left making excuses for every terrorist act, while failing to connect the dot? They all seem to have 1 thing in common. Islam. The last thing the left wants to do is offend an Islamist terrorist by calling them out on the same grounds that they use as justifacation for mass murder. Islam. Allah Akbar.

which middle aged white guy did you think was being reference in the media if not the one in the video? i never heard anyone talk about one other than in direct reference to what was on that tape.

maybe that was the problem. you failed to make that obvious connection so just assumed the msm was doing it's usual job of supporting terrorists. i'm not sure you look any smarter if that's the case.

and pointing out how mind numbingly dumb your original post was doesn't equal making excuses for terror. it's just holding you accountable for peeing your pants in public.

MaTH716 05-07-2010 12:57 PM

Suspicious Package, Times Square evacuated.........again.

GBBob 05-07-2010 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by MaTH716 (Post 644948)
Suspicious Package, Times Square evacuated.........again.

I'll be there Monday...will report to DT all activities and will not try and change shirts in view of video cameras

MaTH716 05-07-2010 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by GBBob (Post 644950)
I'll be there Monday...will report to DT all activities and will not try and change shirts in view of video cameras

Are you really coming into town? And if so for how long?

GBBob 05-07-2010 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by MaTH716 (Post 644954)
Are you really coming into town? And if so for how long?

I have a dinner in the city Monday night and then up in White Plains Tuesday and Wed. I'm in a lot though so will PM you next time..maybe we can grab dinner.

MaTH716 05-07-2010 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by GBBob (Post 644960)
I have a dinner in the city Monday night and then up in White Plains Tuesday and Wed. I'm in a lot though so will PM you next time..maybe we can grab dinner.

Sounds good.

Princess Doreen 05-07-2010 01:25 PM

Thank you, sir - I'll have another - TS evacuation?

Times Square Evacuated

Times Square has been evacuated as police check out a suspicious cooler that was found outside of a hotel at 45th and Broadway.

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Riot 06-21-2010 10:37 PM

Times Square Bomber guilty
 
In a turn of events stunning and angering to those that decried prosecution in federal court (won't work, will endanger NY citizens, too expensive, will take forever, will allow him to lawyer up and get off scott free, Obama is ruining this country, etc):

Quote:

(AP) NEW YORK -- Faisal Shahzad entered the plea in U.S. District Court in Manhattan just days after a federal grand jury indicted him on 10 terrorism and weapons counts, some of which carried mandatory life prison sentences. He pleaded guilty to them all.

Sentencing was scheduled for Oct. 5.

The Bridgeport, Conn., resident was arrested trying to leave the country May 3, two days after the bomb failed to ignite near a Broadway theater.

Authorities said Shahzad immediately cooperated, delaying his initial court appearance for two weeks as he spilled details of a plot meant to sow terror in the world-famous Times Square on a warm Saturday night when it was packed with thousands of potential victims.

According to the indictment issued last week, Shahzad received a total of $12,000 prior to the attack from the Pakistani Taliban through cash drop-offs in Massachusetts and Long Island.

Attorney General Eric Holder said after the plea: "Faisal Shahzad plotted and launched an attack that could have led to serious loss of life, and today the American criminal justice system ensured that he will pay the price for his actions."

FBI New York Acting Assistant Director-in-Charge George Venizelos called the plea "right on the mark" and praised the work of "ordinary citizens who alerted law enforcement of suspicious activity."

Shahzad was accused in the indictment of receiving explosives training in Waziristan, Pakistan, during a five-week trip to that country. He returned to the United States in February.

The indictment said he received $5,000 in cash on Feb. 25 from a co-conspirator in Pakistan and $7,000 more on April 10, allegedly sent at the co-conspirator's direction. Shahzad said in court Monday that the Pakistan Taliban gave him more than $4,000 when he left training camp.

Shahzad, born in Pakistan, moved to the United States when he was 18.

Pakistan has arrested at least 11 people since the attempted attack. An intelligence official has alleged two of them played a role in the plot. No one has been charged.

Three men in Massachusetts and Maine suspected of supplying money to Shahzad have been detained on immigration charges; one was recently transferred to New York.

Federal authorities have said they believe money was channeled through an underground money transfer network known as "hawala," but they have said they doubt anyone in the U.S. who provided money knew what it was for.

Rupert Pupkin 06-21-2010 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 660372)
In a turn of events stunning and angering to those that decried prosecution in federal court (won't work, will endanger NY citizens, too expensive, will take forever, will allow him to lawyer up and get off scott free, Obama is ruining this country, etc):

I don't think there was a huge outcry against prosecuting this guy in federal court. The huge outcry was about prosecuting Khalid Sheikh Mohammad (the 9/11 mastermind) in New York.

Cannon Shell 06-21-2010 10:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Riot (Post 660372)
In a turn of events stunning and angering to those that decried prosecution in federal court (won't work, will endanger NY citizens, too expensive, will take forever, will allow him to lawyer up and get off scott free, Obama is ruining this country, etc):

Yeah this guy is great comparison to KSM.

Riot 06-21-2010 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 660379)
Yeah this guy is great comparison to KSM.

Nobody is comparing him to KSM.

Riot 06-21-2010 10:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin (Post 660377)
I don't think there was a huge outcry against prosecuting this guy in federal court. The huge outcry was about prosecuting Khalid Sheikh Mohammad (the 9/11 mastermind) in New York.

Yup - KSM was the biggest outcry. But every other terrorist invoked it, too.

Cannon Shell 06-21-2010 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 660383)
Nobody is comparing him to KSM.

You just did.

Riot 06-21-2010 10:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 660387)
You just did.

Nope. Wrong.

Cannon Shell 06-21-2010 11:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Riot (Post 660392)
Nope. Wrong.

The world according to Riot! Where she is the ultimate authority despite all evidence to the contrary.

Your selective memory in this case is laughable. KSM was the cause of the outrage, not clowns like this guy. Your insistence that he wasnt the reason for the outrage flys in the face of pretty much everything reported.

As usual

Riot 06-21-2010 11:08 PM

Get over yourself. There was enough outrage over this guy. Over any terrorist in NY. Liz Cheney making the rounds of the Sunday morning shows about him ring a bell in that pinhead?

You brought up KSM. Not me.

Quote:

Your insistence that he wasnt the reason for the outrage flys in the face of pretty much everything reported.
I didn't say that. Get a grip on reality, and go insult someone else. Your bad temper and ravings stopped being my problem some time ago.

Cannon Shell 06-21-2010 11:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Riot (Post 660403)
Get over yourself. There was enough outrage over this guy. Over any terrorist in NY. Liz Cheney making the rounds of the Sunday morning shows about him ring a bell in that pinhead?

You brought up KSM. Not me.



I didn't say that. Get a grip on reality, and go insult someone else. Your bad temper and ravings stopped being my problem some time ago.

Yeah the mastermind of the 9/11 attacks and this guy are on the same level. The outrage that you mocked was because of KSM, not random terrorists.

But of course you couldn't just admit that because that wouldn't jive with your agenda. You know to defend Obama even when he isn't even the topic?

Antitrust32 06-22-2010 07:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Riot (Post 660383)
Nobody is comparing him to KSM.

actually you were when you posted about the "no NY outcry". That was all about KSM.

Riot 06-22-2010 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Antitrust32 (Post 660435)
actually you were when you posted about the "no NY outcry". That was all about KSM.

Actually no I didn't, and no it wasn't.

As I have already said, yes, KSM was the largest inducer of these feelings.

Many came out vocally, publically and specifically against THIS terrorist being tried in federal court early in this year: both Dick and Liz Cheney, Tom Ridge, John Boehner, etc - mostly on the far right, obviously.

Plenty of discussion about how wrong Holder (and Obama) was wrong to try THIS terrorist in NY fed court in the larger news orgs, the Sunday morning talk shows, etc. Yes, even Faux News.

Plenty are against "any" terrorist being treated as anything other than a war criminal. Ewen people on this discussion board.

Your and Cannon's obvious ignorance of this doesn't make it non-existent. It just exposes your comments as the ad hominem BS they are.

Danzig 06-22-2010 12:31 PM

i think there is a huge difference between enemy combatants and this guy. can you charge one of your own citizens as an enemy combatant? i don't know, but i doubt it. if he were a soldier who 'turned' to the other side, he'd be charged with treason i'd imagine....at any rate, simply a different type case than most terrorist cases, since he's a citizen.

Riot 06-22-2010 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 660539)
i think there is a huge difference between enemy combatants and this guy. can you charge one of your own citizens as an enemy combatant? i don't know, but i doubt it.

The Constitution, treason, applies to American citizens, yes. The assumption (popular in one administration, not another) was/is that some terrorists are "war criminals", while others are not. Then the treatment of war criminals by the US comes into play.

This is another successful prosecution of yet another terrorist (domestic or foreign) within our judicial system.

Antitrust32 06-22-2010 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Riot (Post 660533)
Actually no I didn't, and no it wasn't.

As I have already said, yes, KSM was the largest inducer of these feelings.

Many came out vocally, publically and specifically against THIS terrorist being tried in federal court early in this year: both Dick and Liz Cheney, Tom Ridge, John Boehner, etc - mostly on the far right, obviously.

Plenty of discussion about how wrong Holder (and Obama) was wrong to try THIS terrorist in NY fed court in the larger news orgs, the Sunday morning talk shows, etc. Yes, even Faux News.

Plenty are against "any" terrorist being treated as anything other than a war criminal. Ewen people on this discussion board.

Your and Cannon's obvious ignorance of this doesn't make it non-existent. It just exposes your comments as the ad hominem BS they are.

you say many and name 4 republicans. I dont care what Dick and Liz were outraged about. the vast majority of the American public and all of NYC were outraged about KSM, and that is what actually matters, except in your pea brain.

as for your last comment, go fucl< yourself you lousy whore. and chew on a tar ball while your at it. piss the fucl< off. you dont deserve any respect so this is what I'll give you.

Riot 06-22-2010 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Antitrust32 (Post 660565)
you say many and name 4 republicans. I dont care what Dick and Liz were outraged about. the vast majority of the American public and all of NYC were outraged about KSM, and that is what actually matters, except in your pea brain.

as for your last comment, go fucl< yourself you lousy whore. and chew on a tar ball while your at it. piss the fucl< off. you dont deserve any respect so this is what I'll give you.

Keep it classy.

dellinger63 06-22-2010 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Riot (Post 660543)

This is another successful prosecution of yet another terrorist (domestic or foreign) within our judicial system.

LMAO

Shahzad didn't appear in court until more than two weeks after his arrest. He admitted to federal agents during voluntary questioning that he carried out the attack. Prosecutors have said Mr. Shahzad was advised of and waived his Miranda rights to remain silent, as well as his right to a speedy appearance in court, during that period.

The FBI got a confession and the Prosecutors looked out for the terrorist's rights. Great job!

Antitrust32 06-22-2010 01:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Riot (Post 660572)
Keep it classy.

you know what, I come on here and have some good debates with reasonable people like BWS, Rupert, cannon, god, gbbob.. basically everyone. but never you. why? I dont know? Why do you drive everyone nuts on here? Maybe its not a problem with all us "conservative folks", maybe YOU are the problem, since its you that noone can stand.

you post this **** like what I highlighted, and expect me to keep it classy. you dont deserve any class thrown your way.

Riot 06-22-2010 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Antitrust32 (Post 660576)
you know what, I come on here and have some good debates with reasonable people like BWS, Rupert, cannon, god, gbbob.. basically everyone. but never you. why? I dont know? Why do you drive everyone nuts on here? Maybe its not a problem with all us "conservative folks", maybe YOU are the problem, since its you that noone can stand.

you post this **** like what I highlighted, and expect me to keep it classy. you dont deserve any class thrown your way.


You are what you are. I don't "make" you do or be anything.

Antitrust32 06-22-2010 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Riot (Post 660577)
You are what you are. I don't "make" you do or be anything.

you do "make" my bloodpressure rise once and awhile. But you are right, its my fault I let you under my skin. i really shouldnt give a flying fucl< what you say, since you are full of shi.t anyway.

Riot 06-22-2010 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dellinger63 (Post 660573)
The FBI got a confession and the Prosecutors looked out for the terrorist's rights. Great job!

Quite a bit more happened than just the above:

Quote:

NEW YORK – Admitted terrorist Faisal Shahzad was so eager to tell how he plotted to kill Americans in Times Square, he went to court with a prepared statement.

... Shahzad offered chilling details about how he trained with the Pakistani Taliban to build bombs, then returned to the U.S. to launch an attack that would avenge attacks on Muslims by U.S. forces overseas.

... Shahzad, 30, admitted leaving an SUV rigged with a homemade bomb in bustling Times Squares on a warm night on May 1.

Authorities say following his capture, Shahzad voluntarily started talking about the botched bombing right away — a pattern that continued in open court, where he agreed to plead guilty to 10 terrorism and weapons counts without the benefit of a plea deal and with certainty he'd face life in prison.

"I want to plead guilty, and I'm going to plead guilty 100 times over," he said.

Shahzad traced his plot to a 2009 trip to Pakistan that began only three months after he received his U.S. citizenship.

While staying with his parents, he ventured into the lawless Waziristan region in December with "a couple of friends ... to join the (Pakistani) Taliban." He didn't describe the friends any further.

But an intelligence official in Pakistan told The Associated Press that CIA investigators have been given access to two Pakistani men who helped Shahzad reach Mir Ali town in North Waziristan, as well as to three other suspects being held by Pakistani authorities. The official insisted on anonymity because Pakistan's intelligence agency does not allow its operatives to be identified.

Shahzad said he sought and received five days' training in explosives before returning to the United States in February to pursue a one-man scheme to bring death and destruction to New York with funding from the militant group. The indictment said he received $5,000 in cash on Feb. 25 from an unnamed coconspirator in Pakistan and $7,000 more on April 10, sent at the coconspirator's direction.

He explained that he loaded his vehicle with three bomb components, hoping to set off a fertilizer-fueled bomb packed in a gun cabinet, a set of propane tanks and gas canisters rigged with fireworks to explode into a fireball. He also revealed he was carrying a folding assault rifle in a laptop computer case for "self-defense."

Shahzad said he expected the bomb to begin going off after he lighted a fuse and waited between 2 1/2 and five minutes for it to erupt.

Attorney General Eric Holder said after the plea: "Faisal Shahzad plotted and launched an attack that could have led to serious loss of life, and today the American criminal justice system ensured that he will pay the price for his actions."

Pakistan has arrested at least 11 people since the attempted attack; none have been officially charged. The father of one of the men detained said he has submitted a court petition for information about his son, Salman Ashraf Khan, but received nothing.

"If somebody is dead, the mourning period lasts 40 days," said Rana Ashraf Khan. "But this is the 43rd day my son is missing."

Three men in Massachusetts and Maine suspected of supplying money to Shahzad have been detained on immigration charges; one was recently transferred to New York.

Federal authorities have said they believe money was channeled through an underground money transfer network known as hawala, but they have said they doubt anyone in the U.S. who provided money knew what it was for.

dellinger63 06-22-2010 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Antitrust32 (Post 660584)
you do "make" my bloodpressure rise once and awhile. But you are right, its my fault I let you under my skin. i really shouldnt give a flying fucl< what you say, since you are full of shi.t anyway.

:tro::tro::tro:


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