Early Early derby odds
 

Number Name Trainer Morning Line Current Odds
1 Lookin At Lucky Bob Baffert 3 6
2 Ice Box Nicholas Zito 10 10
3 Noble's Promise Kenneth McPeek 12 23
4 Super Saver Todd Pletcher 15 8
5 Line of David John Sadler 30 18
6 Stately Victor Michael Maker 30 14
7 American Lion Eoin Harty 30 25
8 Dean's Kitten Michael Maker 50 14
9 Make Music for Me Alexis Barba 50 27
10 Paddy O'Prado Dale Romans 20 10
11 Devil May Care Todd Pletcher 10 11
12 Conveyance Bob Baffert 12 19
13 Jackson Bend Nicholas Zito 15 24
14 Mission Impazible Todd Pletcher 20 27
15 Discreetly Mine Todd Pletcher 30 41
16 Awesome Act Jeremy Noseda 10 13
17 Dublin D. Lukas 12 22
18 Backtalk Thomas Amoss 50 23
19 Homeboykris Richard Dutrow, Jr. 50 24
20 Sidney's Candy John Sadler 5 13

Morning line followed by live odds. Updated by the minute here:
http://www.kentuckyderby.com/contenders/live-odds

Thanks for the link.

Good to see Backtalk taking $$.

If the exacta prices over top of LAL are any indication the longest prices in the field will be 7,8,9,14,15,18,19.

I wanna know who put there house,jet,and yacht on Dean's Kitten?

14-1:eek:

Wait until there is about 500k in the pool....But Borel money is a real phenomenon as well as Paddo O Prado officially being the wise guy horse.

I like the prices I am getting on #12 Conveyance (19-1) and #14 Mission (27-1)
hate the price I am getting on #10 Paddy O'Prado (10-1)

Perhaps a lot of people named Dean that have a cat :D

Ya just updated

LAL 7-1
Super Saver 8-1
Ice Box and Paddy 10-1

Coldwater bandwagon;)

I respect the opinions of the people there alot with regards to how well he's training. I believe it. I would not have used Dennis of Cork a few years ago without those opinions....but I don't think the risk/reward is anything near what it should be on this horse.

Me too.

Current odds based on Oaks/Derby double... which I believe to be a very good indicator.
1 Lookin at Lucky (Gomez) 3.1-1
2 Ice Box (Lezcano) 15-1
3 Noble's Promise (W. Martinez) 23-1
4 Super Saver (Borel) 15-1
5 Line of David (Bejarano) 37-1
6 Stately Victor (A. Garcia) 20-1
7 American Lion (Flores) 33-1
8 Dean's Kitten (Albarado) 54-1
9 Make Music for Me (Rosario) 59-1
10 Paddy O'Prado (Desormeaux) 30-1
11 Devil May Care (J. Velazquez) 18-1
12 Conveyance (M. Garcia) 29-1
13 Jackson Bend (M. Smith) 29-1
14 Mission Impazible (Maragh) 25-1
15 Discreetly Mine (Castellano) 58-1
16 Awesome Act (Leparoux) 11-1
17 Dublin (Thompson) 31-1
18 Backtalk (Mena) 56-1
19 Homeboykris (Dominguez) 73-1
20 Sidney's Candy (Talamo) 8-1

Where is that? I couldn't find it on the KD site.

very stupid question but my brain is farting.

You can do $1 exacta boxes at Churchill, correct?

Correct

twinspires.com has the Oaks/Derby probables... I used Blind Luck's double prices as the start and recalculated to determine the odds.

For what it's worth, she's 9/5 in the double pool.

Surprised she's that high.

It's so amazing, I just had to note it, as of right now, Super Saver is the Derby favorite.

noble,s promise @ 23-1 is fantastic......i am getting down a 1,2,3,4,20 ex. bx & tri bx. n.p is ready to fire HUGE.....

I'm not... Jerry Brown recommended a bet against. She'll probably drift down but 6/5 was probably too low a morning line.

thanks!

a) what does 2 inches of rain do to this place besides make it real wet?

b) knowing what is coming (above), and knowing that all people are talking about in regards to how much speed there will be on the front end, how is ice box not taking more money? i don't like him at 6-1, but have to play him at double digits, especially after his work in the water the other day...

The Hammer pick him=no one will play him LOL

....you just brought me down man........

Early Derby wagering
 

Small sample, but nobody shorter than 7-1. Wouldn't be surprised if we see a Harlan's Holiday situation with this field.

Already a thread

Now 7/5. Will go off even money IMO.

its settled than.. the only bet i'm making for the oaks is a oaks/derby double.

Super Saver holding as surprising 7-1 chalk. Lookin at Lucky 8-1, Awesome Act and Devil May Care 10-1, Sidney's Candy 11-1.

Even with the post 7 or 8 to one on Lookin at Lucky is major value.

Calvin Borel fan club must be out in full force at Churchill today. Every time I have been there in person and he has won a race the place erupted. Smiley must be all smiles.

I agree but remember it is early in these pools. But 5-1 is even higher than I thought he'd go off so we'll see.

Yeah I think they only got like $160,000 in right?

Thanks for posting the link.

Have you seen willpays?

Thanks

Below are the Will Pays for the $2 Oaks-Derby Double Wager
1 - Lookin at Lucky $22.40
2 - Ice Box $59.60
3 - Noble's Promise $96.60
4 - Super Saver $56.60
5 - Line of David $151.80
6 - Stately Victor $87.20
7 - American Lion $137.80
8 - Dean's Kitten $235.40
9 - Make Music for Me $278.00
10 - Paddy O'Prado $106.20
11 - Devil May Care $67.80
12 - Conveyance $118.80
13 - Jackson Bend $122.80
14 - Mission Impazible $102.60
15 - Discreetly Mine $241.00
16 - Awesome Act $39.20
17 - Dublin $108.20
18 - Backtalk $250.20
19 - Homeboykris $309.20
20 - Sidney's Candy $46.40

Thanks JW

had to find that one quick, as I'm live to three of them.

GL. Thanks.