Who's your Doctor gonna be?
 

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I want to see them spin this one! This was brought up before the "fabled vote" and before anybody got a real chance to discuss it!

While we were on vacation in Florida a few weeks back, our hosts were informed that their Internist was closing up shop at the end of May.

When we got home a few weeks later, a letter was waiting for us from our GP. He's giving up his practice the end of this year.

Just a couple of examples. Probably not scientific, but I'm sure there's lot of similar stories out there.

The emergency rooms will be cleared out of those not having health insurance to be replaced by those who can't find a family practice doctor.

Eventual paying anywhere from 300K to 650K for 4 years of med school, as if it was the mortgage on a home, and then making 90-110K/yr as a family practioner simply doesn't make sense. Until Obama and friends even acknowledge, never mind do something to offset the investment in time and money a young physician must make there is no chance the next generation will have family practice/internal medicine docs. The price of the education selects for subspecialtists. Plain and simple...and no health care plan for those that cannot afford insurance is going to change this.

This whole scenario demonstrates the devious,clandestine bent of this administration. It just doesn't add up to sound financial practice. The paradigm shift enfolding in this country is astounding.

If you had a clue it would die of lonlieness.

Too true, Timm. It's never been about health care. It's all about control. Government control - a piece at a time, little by little. Wonder when the effects of the "Hope Change" sleeping pills are going to wear off.

....like you would know a CLUE!

And, what's your CLUE - Obama killed healthcare in DC with the House minions?!~

Please splain.

I really should have said, "Here's a CLUE for you."

Didn't you ever play CLUE when you were a kid? Colonel Mustard killed Dr. Black with a rope in the dining room?

Gotcha. Regarding healthcare. You seem way too smart to declare something a failure without even giving it a chance to play out. Everything that is out there now is propaganda.

Experience can make one savvy or it can keep one inert.

I'd like to think of myself as experienced and savvy.

The government can't run OTB at a profit or a whore house that sells liquor, and as I wrote on a previous topic:

<<We're being gifted with a health care plan written by a committee whose chairman says he doesn't understand it, passed by a Congress that hasn't read it but exempts themselves from it, signed by a President who also hasn't read it, with funding administered by a treasury chief who didn't pay his taxes, to be overseen by a surgeon general who has weight problems, and financed by a country that's broke. Those of us with healthcare are going to get less healthcare but pay more, and those who have no health care will wait years before they do get it, but they'll be paying for it in the meantime. IRS will increase in size so they can "control/force" participation."

Great post ... finally someone that gets it.

:wfNow that you have put things into perspective. :wf

Good to see you've come into the light.:)

Your post was brillant.

Why am I hesitant to take you seriously?!~:D

The creation and development of "family practice" doctors has been a problem in medicine for decades.

It has nothing to do with who is currently President of the US :D

It most certainly does. He's making the problem worse and eventually unfixable.

Only in the minds of the paranoid and factually bereft.

And "he" isn't the one "making the problem worse" (your words, not mine), that would be the Senators and Representatives legally elected by your fellow citizens.

Your characterization of the complexities involved in having doctors available to treat the 330 million people of this country as "unfixable" and due to one person who was elected last fall as President of the United States is beyond ridiculous.

When reason fails, go for the cheap shots.:zz:

Just consider it, "a clue for you".

THIS is what brought you out of retirement?!?!

Oh, such a familiar refrain. :tro:

Groupthink at National Review
April 23rd, 2010 at 12:32 pm by David Frum

How wonderful to return to a free country, I thought as I stepped off the plane from Beijing at Washington Dulles. No more censorship, no more official lies, no more kowtowing to high officials who gained power by their mindless repetition of party dogma…

Then alas I opened my browser and read the dump-on-Manzi comments on NRO’s The Corner. Manzi had deviated from the One Correct Way of Mark Levin Thought, and all his former colleagues had been summoned together to Denounce and Struggle Against Him.

Not one stood up to be counted in Manzi’s defense, not even colleagues whom Manzi might have had reason to regard as close personal friends. (Take a second to notice whose bylines are missing from yesterday’s discussions.)

What makes this episode all the more remarkable is that Manzi is actually a member of NR’s board of trustees – i.e., somebody who might claim a little more scope to speak his mind. But even for trustees, there are limits, and Manzi crossed them.

It’s important to understand what exactly the limit is.

Manzi could have safely disputed Levin’s claims on global warming if he had observed a couple of conditions. First, acknowledge Liberty and Tyranny as a good and important book. Second, acknowledge Levin’s “service” (i.e., leadership) of the conservative cause. Third, isolate criticisms to one particular finite point – avoid drawing any larger conclusions – and be sure to wrap any criticisms in a blanket of compliments. Just because one particular chapter happens to be slovenly, ignorant, and hysterical should not lead you to question the intellectual merit of the book as a whole.

Manzi negligently violated the rules, and the results are as you see.

The episode reminds me of a conversation I had with a friend a year ago, shortly after I published my piece on Rush Limbaugh in Newsweek. I won’t embarrass my friend by mentioning his name, but if I did, you’d certainly recognize it.

My friend: “You aren’t really mad at Rush Limbaugh you know.”

Me: “I’m not? I thought I was.”

My friend: “You’re not even mad at Fox News. You want to win elections, you know that the troops have to be mobilized, somebody has to get them fired up, and you don’t fire them up with Milton Friedman and James Q. Wilson. You are mad at the conservative intellectual elites. They’re the ones who are supposed to uphold intellectual standards, to sift actual facts from what you call ‘pretend information’. Rush Limbaugh isn’t any worse than he was 20 years ago. But 20 years ago, conservatism offered something more than Rush Limbaugh. Since then, the conservative elite has collapsed. Blame them, not talk radio.”

What happened to Manzi is a perfect illustration of this elite collapse.

Reading through the comments in the Corner, there’s no mistaking who’s in charge, who’s subservient. Two Corner contributors complained about Manzi’s “tone.” Levin is the most vituperative radio host this side of Mike Savage – but imagine anyone at The Corner complaining about Levin’s tone!

Conservatism has always had both elite and popular wings, and in the past they worked together productively. Fred Schwarz drew tens of thousands to his Christian Anti-Communist Crusade in the early 1960s, at the same time as Milton Friedman was publishing Capitalism and Freedom; F.A. Hayek, The Constitution of Liberty; and Edward Banfield, The Moral Basis of a Backward Society. Nobody however demanded that Milton Friedman hail Schwarz’s pamphlets as serious contributions to conservative thought, in the way that the Cornerites demand that Manzi kiss Levin’s ring.

It’s different now, to conservatism’s present shame and future detriment.

Consider it considered and filed appropriately.

Doreen..for someone who claims to be as learned and mature as you do, you still are just a typical Republican. And that is fine, but stop pretending to be holier than thou because you are a Republican...you still are no better than Pat Roberstson, Nascar69 or Sarah Palin..good luck

Oh, boo hoo, now you've really gone and hurt my feelings calling me a Republican. The word has lost its meaning - the same as JFK's words, "Ask not what your country can do for you - ask what you can do for your country."

From Reagan to Bush and from Kennedy to Obama - pretty soon we'll be voting house plants for POTUS.

And your a worthless ass kissing Democrat!!!!!!!!!!!

Wow I dont think Bob likes you. Boo Hoo!!! At least you have some common sense.

:eek:

Welcome back girl. What do you think about Tebow going to Denver. Im still laughing he went ahead of Clausen from Notre Lame.

Nascar69? Who the hell is that? Maybe he's my fellow Republican friend.

:D

It's good that Bob doesn't like me. I have far too many friends as it is. Until one of them goes on the critical list, I can't entertain placing any more on my dance card.:D

I would be honored to be your friend. At least you have more sense than Bob has if he even has any.

good god

Great comeback - a real knee slapper.:rolleyes:

What some of you don't seem to catch hold of is that you can't recognize when someone is yanking your chain. It's so much fun getting you mad and riled up.

Cant we all get along?

:D

I dunno - not much fun, and then we'd have to sing "Kumbaya".

Maybe we can all sing "Kumbaya" around a camp fire toasting marshmallows.

OMG - I'd rather have root canal.

You would need teeth.
;)