Devil May Care a Derby possibility
 

Big doings.

Filly in Derby "a possibility," Pletcher says
By Jay Privman

The filly Devil May Care, considered one of the leading contenders for the Kentucky Oaks on April 30, could be entered instead in the Kentucky Derby on May 1, a scenario her trainer, Todd Pletcher, termed "a possibility" on Tuesday morning.

"We're leaning toward the Oaks, but the Derby is a possibility," Pletcher said from New York, where he stopped for a day en route from Florida to Kentucky. "Everything will be determined after she works this weekend. It costs $2,500 to enter the Oaks. It costs $25,000 to enter the Derby, so you've got to be pretty serious about running in the Derby to spend that money."

Pletcher said the decision on which race or races to enter would have to be made by John Greathouse, whose Glencrest Farm owns Devil May Care.

"Everything is up in the air until she works," said Pletcher, who said Devil May Care had been training sensationally since her victory in the Bonnie Miss Stakes last month at Gulfstream Park. Pletcher said that if Devil May Care ran in the Oaks, he would still strongly consider running her in the final leg of the Triple Crown, the Belmont Stakes, five weeks later on June 5. Pletcher won both races in 2007 with Rags to Riches.

Unless it is strictly an owners decision, if Pletch thought Esken was a cinch, why enter the filly in the race who would be 2nd choice in the Oaks. Hmm

Hurting the chances of even more horses on the bubble especially if one of the two DTrial gang get in after this weekend. Horse 20, be nervous, be very nervous.

I don't know how the earnings stand, but I imagine if Eightyfiveandafifty was 20th without some entering, you could possibly see a horse with earnings being entered, only to scratch, with an interest in keeping that horse out of the race.

Danthebluegrassman Part 2. Shi-tty karma for those who do this.

Then the Derby should allow AEs.

Probably should.

I believe they've started 24 before in the race. At, 20, why not go to 24. Like watching RollerDerby

How so? Didn't Baffert win that Derby with War Emblem?

How so? The public discussion of entering and scratching a horse to keep another one out.

I would imagine that Eightyfiveinafifty will be the big unspoken story Derby week should he have earnings and then be entered in the Derby. You can be pretty sure more than a few people will be wondering if there is a way to keep him out of the race....and this is potentially one of them.

I'm not saying it's fair, or that I would necessarily agree, but it is a very possible scenerio.

22 in 1974 when Cannonade won.

They do 24 in Europe all the time. With Belmonts sweeping turns they could probably do 30.

You apparently haven't actually seen the European courses.

Where was the bad karma was my question? Baffert won the Derby from which Danthebluegrassman was scratched with War Emblem. You think he cares that he upset Barry Irwin?

Even if he won the Derby Trial, Eightyfiveinafifty would only have enough earnings if either Noble's Promise or Interactif dropped out. Pletcher could probably accomplish the same goal by entering Interactif and scratching.

Fair point. Longterm Karma damage.

Or Aikenite if he runs second Saturday.

However, those connections already said they weren't going. Devil May Care never completely ruled it out.

I bet she does if Eightyfiveinafifty doesn't win Saturday.

Todd's a very smart guy.

I am pretty sure this thread has more expressed interest in trying to keep 85ina50 out of the Derby than the genuine interest in such for all of the connections of the other 20 horses combined.

What is one more no-chance speedball in this field, except another good candidate for the "finish last" prop bet?

The horse some people may have worried about is Setsuko, but he ain't making it, not in the current insane atmosphere.

A shame setsuko won 't get in as I thought he was live.

You would be incorrect.

That psychopath at a track with 150k people screaming and yelling in a 20 horse field where you run in front of the grandstand for the opening quarter is enough to make a trainer with the coolest nerves a tad uneasy.

NT

You are all assuming 85/50 is winning on Saturday. I think thats a longshot.

Nobody is assuming that whatsoever. In fact, the opposite was made clear.

But, we do know that the favorite winning is not a " longshot " whether we like the horse or not.

OK, YOU may be on to something. But the collective fear of this horse stealing the Derby is somewhere around 0.0.

I don't think this horse wants a mile. Therefore I wouldn't worry about him even making the field at this point. I think todd thinks this filly has a shot which is why she is being considered, not to cock block someone else.

Devil May Care entering would keep Homeboykris out of the race, so there's at least that.

Now that would be funny.

On what looks like the projected pace scenario, hell yes.

Eh, if you were thinking of betting Setsuko, spend your money on Ice Box. Same idea.

If he was the horse kept out by the move, then I'd be fine with it "karmically" or whatever--although it is most certainly not the best move for this filly.

People have lost their minds this year.

You get better prices on both if they are both in the race. And I prefer one over the other.

Low to mid 20's likely on Ice Box

I can only infer this to mean that YOU seem to think I consider Eightyfiveinafifty a threat in the KY Derby.

You be also be incorrect about that.

A threat to jump into the stands maybe and really get the derby into the headlines.

10-15...IMO

If Ice Box is 10-1, based on previous Derbies, he'll be like fourth or fifth favorite. I just can't see it. I think 20-1 sounds more realistic.

Offshore available around 25-1 or higher.

If John Velazquez's on Eskendereya, who would get the mount? I'm trying to think of who else Pletcher uses that isn't already on a horse.