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Kasept 02-27-2010 07:29 AM

2/27: Gulfstream (1st-10th)
 
Weather continues to wreak havoc with the racing calendar as venues deal with a strange and harsh winter. It's in the 40's at Gulfstream right now (7am), and though it should reach 70 degrees, rain may hit mid-afternoon, and there is a chance of a thunderstorm around 4pm which would affect the G3 Sabin (4:12p) and terrific G2 Davona Dale (4:43p). The card at Hallandale is compelling, with the three graded stakes and a P3 (2nd-4th) of one mile events for sophomore boys that should produce a few important types moving forward.

At Santa Anita, the G3 Sham is the key race as 10 three year olds audition for spots in the Santa Anita or maybe Sunland Derby. But the forecast is not good for Arcadia, and there's no way to know at this time if the problematic surface has already taken enough water to consider a cancellation. Rick Hammerle explained yesterday that the races on the downhill course are always the first to come of the turf, and that could impact the Magna 5 which includes the SA 4th as it's 2nd leg. Watch here for the any changes to this week's penta-pick which is the most difficult sequence of the M5 season yet.

Speaking of Santa Anita, Frank Stronach is in California and will be meeting with Ron Charles and company about the impending decision on a new main track surface. Increasingly, the mercurial Austrian-Canadian appears like a Mel Brooks-film character on acid, and is now mumbling about another attempt at a synthetic cake frosting for the main track, this time something that sounds like a version of Fibresand as discussed by Steve Crist yesterday. This of course comes after a majority of interested parties were thrilled at the prospect of a new dirt track at the Great Race Place. Stay tuned...

The GP slate and Magna 5 are the featured selections today. Let's hope the elements don't conspire against those that have been looking forward to today all week!


GULFSTREAM


POST-SCRATCHES


1st: S/ALW, 4+, 6.5f (P3, DD, Super)

Tough start with well-matched starter foes; Mike Welsch notes in DRF Weekend that Starforaday's bullet move came with him 'drifting in the latter stages while under pressure'.. Harry Benson has shopped for this spot with Post Time having scratched at least twice for today. Owned by 'Geno' Stevens and Carolyn (Mrs. Sonny) Hine, you can bet he's primed for the occasion..

SCR #3 Unbridled Heat and #7 Post Time..

Best Value: #6 Starship Valor 6-1 WON ($7.40)
Most Likely: #8 Starforaday 3-1 3rd
Next Best: #4 Hollywood Left 10-1 5th


2nd: MSW, 3yo, 1m (P3, DD, Super)

Most Likely: #1a (POE) Our Dark Knight 4-1 2nd
Best Value: #6 Nadal 5-1 4th
Next Best: #5 Game On Dude 5-2 WON ($4.40)
Super Add: #4 Vanishing Buck 10-1 7th


3rd: ALW/NW2-C, 3yo, 1m (P3, DD, Super)

Most Likely: #4 Radiohead 3-1 WON ($5.20)
Next Best: #2 Homeboykris 4-1 2nd
Best Value: #5 Call Shot 5-1 3rd
Super Add: #1 General Maximus 2-1 4th



4th: MSW, 3yo, 1m (P3, DD, Super)

Most Likely: #7 Bushwacked 3-1 2nd
Best Value: #5 Miner's Reserve 4-1 WON ($8.00)
Next Best: #6 Forward Harch 5-2 3rd
Super Add: #9 Gothics Peak 8-1 7th


5th: MSW, 3yo-F, 5f-T (P6, P3, DD, Super)

Fun betting race..

Most Likely: #8 Atrea 6-1 WON ($6.60)
Next Best: #4 Wicked Ravnina 5-1 4th
Best Value: #10 Goolagong 12-1 2nd
Super Add: #12 Devastating Diva 10-1 6th


6th: ALW/N1X, 4+, 1m-T (P3, DD, Super)

Most Likely: #12 War Hoot 7-2 4th
Best Value: #6 Stage Deli 12-1 8th
Next Best: #1 Dynamoor 4-1 WON ($5.40)
Super Add: #2 Spectacular Kid 30-1 5th


7th: 20th Sabin (G3), F&M-4+, 1m (P4, P3, DD, Super)

Most Likely: #1 Justwhistledixie 5-2 4th
Best Value: #5 Aurora Lights 6-1 WON ($23.00)
Next Best: #2 Matchless Orinda 4-1 2nd
Super Add: #3 Amazing 6-1 3rd


8th: 23rd Davona Dale (G2), 3yo-F, 1m (P3, DD, Super)

Superb cast for this productive winter test for soph fillies.. Expectation is that Biancone will SCR #6 Cristine Daae (Confirmed) for the Sunday spot. Should she run here today, she is as likely as the top pair..

Most Likely: #4 Bickersons 5-2 4th
Next Best: #8 Sassy Image 4-1 5th
Best Value: #3 Joanie's Catch 20-1 2nd
Super Add: #1 Amen Hallelujah 3-1 WON


9th: 22nd Very One (G3), F&M-4+, 11f-T (DD, Super)

Outrageous 14 horse field for Leg C of the Magna 5 and 3rd leg of of GP P4.. Use as many as you can given the nature of this three turn affair and the bulkiness of the field..

SCR #14 Lady Shakespeare 7-2 and note #16 Rcuandry WILL run..

Most Likely: #2 Belle Allure 6-1 8th
Best Value: #8 Mystic Miracle 12-1 10th
Next Best: #5 Cable 6-1 3rd
Exotics Use: #6 Celtic Princess 12-1 9th


10th: MDN CLM, 4+, 8.5f-OFF THE TURF AFTER LEAVING THE PADDOCK (Super)

Most Likely: #11 Smart Selection 5-2
Best Value: #8 Fearless 6-1
Next Best: #2 Tigresco 4-1
Super Add: #6 Alpha Glitter 10-1


<$75 P4 Play:

7: 1-2-5
8: 4-8
9: 2-5-6-8
10: 2-6-8-9-10-11

3x2x4x6 = 144 x .50 = $72



MAGNA 5


CANCELLED WITH SANTA ANITA


LAUREL 10th: Miracle Wood, 3yo, 7f (Super)


R. Dutrow is 'only' 5 of 7 so far this winter at LRL..

Most Likely: #10 Don't Blame the Cat 7-2 WON
Best Value: #12 Our Commander 12-1 6th
Next Best: #7 Turbo Speed 5-1 4th
Super Add: #3 Deputy Daney 4-1 5th


GOLDEN GATE 4th: CLM, 4+, 1m (P6, P3, DD, Super)

Most Likely: #6 Wild Yankee 3-1
Best Value: #1 Starcast 6-1
Next Best: #2 Way too Much 4-1
Super Add: #7 Judge's Verdict 8-1


Good luck!
Steve

herkhorse 02-27-2010 08:09 AM

Speaking of Santa Anita, Frank Stronach is in California and will be meeting with Ron Charles and company about the impending decision on a new main track surface. Increasingly, the mercurial Austrian-Canadian appears like a Mel Brooks-film character on acid, and is now mumbling about another attempt at a synthetic cake frosting for the main track, this time something that sounds like a version of Fibresand as discussed by Steve Crist yesterday. This of course comes after a majority of interested parties were thrilled at the prospect of a new dirt track at the Great Race Place. Stay tuned...

fine work once again :tro: :tro: :tro:

Kasept 02-27-2010 09:42 AM

Santa Anita decision between 12-12:30p EST.

Doesn't look too good right now. They are watching a band of storms that would deliver another 1-2 inches if it hits. If it should avoid Arcadia, there is a chance they will run...

Payson Dave 02-27-2010 10:35 AM

Another big day possibly in the makin at GP..:$:

Kasept 02-27-2010 10:50 AM

GP SCR/CHG/WEATHER


Race: 1 Changes Time Posted
#3 Unbridled Heat Scratched - Trainer 11:29 AM ET
#7 Post Time Scratched - Trainer 11:29 AM ET

Race: 2 Changes Time Posted
#8 Upgrade Scratched - Trainer 11:29 AM ET

Race: 3 Changes Time Posted
#7 Gesu Scratched - Re-entered 11:29 AM ET

Race: 5 Changes Time Posted
#13 Colour the Wind Scratched - Also-Eligible 11:29 AM ET
#14 Californiarunshine Scratched - Also-Eligible 11:29 AM ET
#15 So Very Happy Scratched - Also-Eligible 11:29 AM ET
#16 Embroidery Scratched - Also-Eligible 11:29 AM ET

Race: 6 Changes Time Posted
#13 Gulf Ruckus Scratched - Also-Eligible 11:29 AM ET
#14 Midnite Silver Scratched - Also-Eligible 11:29 AM ET
#15 East to West Scratched - Also-Eligible 11:29 AM ET
#16 Safety Squeeze Scratched - Also-Eligible 11:29 AM ET

Race: 7 Changes Time Posted
#4 Miss Match (ARG) Scratched - Trainer 11:29 AM ET

Race: 8 Changes Time Posted
#2 Female Drama Scratched - Trainer 11:29 AM ET
#6 Christine Daae Scratched - Trainer 11:29 AM ET

Race: 9 Changes Time Posted
#14 Lady Shakespeare Scratched - Trainer 11:29 AM ET

Race: 10 Changes Time Posted
#14 Belgrave Square Scratched - Also-Eligible 11:29 AM ET
#15 Dinahmite Sal Scratched - Also-Eligible 11:29 AM ET
#16 Morethan Fourhours Scratched - Also-Eligible 11:29 AM ET

mm1019 02-27-2010 11:50 AM

No Racing at Santa Anita

Bogey 02-27-2010 12:03 PM

Jessica Is Back is scratched (1:01pm)

Kasept 02-27-2010 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bogey
Jessica Is Back is scratched (1:01pm)

Kiawah Cat has come out the Very One now too...



Race: 1 Changes Time Posted
#3 Unbridled Heat Scratched - Trainer 11:29 AM ET
#7 Post Time Scratched - Trainer 11:29 AM ET

Race: 2 Changes Time Posted
#8 Upgrade Scratched - Trainer 11:29 AM ET

Race: 3 Changes Time Posted
#7 Gesu Scratched - Re-entered 11:29 AM ET

Race: 5 Changes Time Posted
#13 Colour the Wind Scratched - Also-Eligible 11:29 AM ET
#14 Californiarunshine Scratched - Also-Eligible 11:29 AM ET
#15 So Very Happy Scratched - Also-Eligible 11:29 AM ET
#16 Embroidery Scratched - Also-Eligible 11:29 AM ET

Race: 6 Changes Time Posted
#3 Keeping the Honor Scratched - Trainer 1:01 PM ET
#13 Gulf Ruckus Scratched - Also-Eligible 11:29 AM ET
#14 Midnite Silver Scratched - Also-Eligible 11:29 AM ET
#15 East to West Scratched - Also-Eligible 11:29 AM ET
#16 Safety Squeeze Scratched - Also-Eligible 11:29 AM ET

Race: 7 Changes Time Posted
#4 Miss Match (ARG) Scratched - Trainer 11:29 AM ET
#7 Jessica Is Back Scratched - Trainer 1:01 PM ET

Race: 8 Changes Time Posted
#2 Female Drama Scratched - Trainer 11:29 AM ET
#6 Christine Daae Scratched - Trainer 11:29 AM ET

Race: 9 Changes Time Posted
#12 Kiawah Cat Scratched - Trainer 1:02 PM ET
#14 Lady Shakespeare Scratched - Trainer 11:29 AM ET

Race: 10 Changes Time Posted
#14 Belgrave Square Scratched - Also-Eligible 11:29 AM ET
#15 Dinahmite Sal Scratched - Also-Eligible 11:29 AM ET
#16 Morethan Fourhours Scratched - Also-Eligible 11:29 AM ET

Kasept 02-27-2010 12:55 PM

Fyi...

$1 Pick 3 Will Pays

6/5/&

1 35.40
2 41.30
3 143.00
4 32.10
5 83.20
6 102.70
7 Scr

Kasept 02-27-2010 01:10 PM

Radiohead the clear fave now at 8-5...

pointman 02-27-2010 01:19 PM

Nice job so far at GP, Steve. I am missing the Big A again today, may dabble on GP, though I will probably follow your picks today as I can't hit the side of a barn there . . . .

Kasept 02-27-2010 01:23 PM

Fyi...

$1 Pick 3 Will Pays

5/4/&

1 215.90
2 300.70
3 588.20
4 227.50
5 32.60
6 29.90
7 17.90
8 101.40
9 161.20

Betsy 02-27-2010 01:24 PM

How is Bushwacked 4-5 and Miner's Reserve 6-1?

Kasept 02-27-2010 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pointman
Nice job so far at GP, Steve. I am missing the Big A again today, may dabble on GP, though I will probably follow your picks today as I can't hit the side of a barn there . . . .

Thx.. It's a hit or miss venue this winter. Streaks of logical, fair racing then stretches of abstract, bizarre results.

Good luck!

Bogey 02-27-2010 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kasept
Thx.. It's a hit or miss venue this winter. Streaks of logical, fair racing then stretches of abstract, bizarre results.

Good luck!

I thought you were talking about Grunder's call in the 5th. Called the winner that actually finished 3rd. He might want to wait to they hit the wire. Kev would even have questioned this call. I know he is still loved by the Tampa faithful.

Scav 02-27-2010 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bogey
I thought you were talking about Grunder's call in the 5th. Called the winner that actually finished 3rd. He might want to wait to they hit the wire. Kev would even have questioned this call.

He is awesome isn't he?...I love it!

Bogey 02-27-2010 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scav
He is awesome isn't he?...I love it!

He's the best, no doubt. Good stuff

Payson Dave 02-27-2010 01:42 PM

well done in the third Steve!

Betsy 02-27-2010 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Betsy
How is Bushwacked 4-5 and Miner's Reserve 6-1?

I'll answer my own post - I don't know, but Miner's Reserve was much the best. I'm sorry I didn't bet him.

Kasept 02-27-2010 02:23 PM

Got the big effort I was looking for there from Julia Carey's Goolagong (16-1) who had a lot going for her in that turf sprint... Sorry I didn't use Kenny Lane who Mike Welsch talked about yesterday and liked in the mix. Wicked Ravnina whom we both plugged was OK 4th... Nice exotics there.

mclem0822 02-27-2010 02:24 PM

Thanks Steve for Goolagong, she ran great and I used her also in a 10cent super that came through $214:)

herkhorse 02-27-2010 02:31 PM

Storms are rolling in. Liking Stage Deli here.

Kasept 02-27-2010 02:31 PM

$1 Pick 3 Will Pays

5/8 With

1 77.40
2 1878.20
3 Scr
4 330.20
5 1561.80
6 654.60
7 169.80
8 323.40
9 1789.40
10 404.00
11 1265.80
12 150.60

Kasept 02-27-2010 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mclem0822
Thanks Steve for Goolagong, she ran great and I used her also in a 10cent super that came through $214:)

Quite welcome. Glad you scored! The more I looked at her this morning the more she begged to be played.

Kasept 02-27-2010 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by herkhorse
Storms are rolling in.

Right on cue as Weather Underground laid out. Pretty amazing.

mm1019 02-27-2010 02:40 PM

Great Job today steve...
My late pick four at Gulf
7)2,3,8
8)3,4,8
9)2,4,5,9,11
10)2,8,11
50 cent pick 4 $67.50

rpncaine 02-27-2010 03:09 PM

.50c Pick 4's at GP
1,2 / 3,4,5 / 2,3,5 / 2,6,8,11 $36
5 / 3,4 / 3,4 / 2,6,8,9,10,11 $12

Good luck all!

Gaining Ground 02-27-2010 03:10 PM

late pick 4

.50
1,2,3 with 1,5,7 with 2,5,9,11 with 1,2,8

herkhorse 02-27-2010 03:16 PM

Very nice there Steve! good luck!

mclem0822 02-27-2010 03:16 PM

Great start to the P4! I'm riding along!:)

Gaining Ground 02-27-2010 03:21 PM

lets try it again with the late pick 3

1,5,7 with 2,5,9,11 with 1,2,8

Kasept 02-27-2010 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by herkhorse
Very nice there Steve! good luck!

Thanks. Nick Tammaro gets the credit for being on that horse and alerting me and ATR listeners to her merits. But what was most impressive was that she did what she did without getting a big pace to chase. I felt Orinda was vulnerable off the big start last time, but when she set those easy quarters I thought she'd be tough later. No excuse at all for Justwhistledixie.


Quote:

Originally Posted by mclem0822
Great start to the P4! I'm riding along!:)

G/L the rest of the way!

mclem0822 02-27-2010 03:49 PM

Amen Hallelujah did it, that's the one that scared me here. I singled on a back up P3 though.

mclem0822 02-27-2010 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kasept
Thanks. Nick Tammaro gets the credit for being on that horse and alerting me and ATR listeners to her merits. But what was most impressive was that she did what she did without getting a big pace to chase. I felt Orinda was vulnerable off the big start last time, but when she set those easy quarters I thought she'd be tough later. No excuse at all for Justwhistledixie.



G/L the rest of the way!

Thanks Steve, I'm glad I played a backed up with a P3, should have thrown in a tiny P4 back up as well, but the P3 hopefully will hit i'm 5 and 6 deep in the final two legs respectively.

mclem0822 02-27-2010 04:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mclem0822
Thanks Steve, I'm glad I played a backed up with a P3, should have thrown in a tiny P4 back up as well, but the P3 hopefully will hit i'm 5 and 6 deep in the final two legs respectively.

Mott and the Birthday boy Kent D, do me in!:zz:

Kasept 02-27-2010 04:39 PM

Wow. Once again Gulfstream takes a race off the turf as the horses go to the track... :wf

The place is an embarrassment.

ARyan 02-27-2010 04:50 PM

What is the rule on the Pick4 now at Gulfstream? Do they conso, or are we still stuck with those we were live too?

DJARUM 02-27-2010 04:54 PM

They pay all.

ARyan 02-27-2010 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJARUM
They pay all.

Thanks DJARUM.

Actually, it looks like they only pay to the winner. Awesome, I wasn't going to use that horse at all on the turf.

pick4 02-27-2010 05:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJARUM
They pay all.

That is not correct.
I was alive with 4 runners going into the last race and did not have the winner as I was handicapping for grass.


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