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Cannon Shell 01-26-2010 05:50 PM

FG cuts purses
 
http://www.drf.com/news/article/110369.html

Damn polytrack!

Bigsmc 01-26-2010 05:53 PM

They should rip out their turf course and replace it with poly.

golfer 01-26-2010 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Bigsmc
They should rip out their turf course and replace it with poly.

Can't decide whether to respond with a "Sharp Post", or "Are You High?":)

randallscott35 01-26-2010 06:00 PM

You won't get my money with that takeout

10 pnt move up 01-26-2010 06:17 PM

How is this possible, they have a dirt course?

Rudeboyelvis 01-26-2010 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Bigsmc
They should rip out their turf course and replace it with poly.

And dye it green. Problem solved. Next!

Seriously, growing grass in river silt, 4 feet below sea level and having 1200 lb. horses trample over it 5 times a day is hardly turf racing.

Left Bank 01-26-2010 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Bigsmc
They should rip out their turf course and replace it with poly.

How about pack the whole place up and move it out of state.

Rudeboyelvis 01-26-2010 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Left Bank
How about pack the whole place up and move it out of state.

Tampa has a fabulous turf course ;) :tro:

Scav 01-26-2010 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis
Tampa has a fabulous turf course ;) :tro:

And unbelievable, UNBELIEVABLE purses

freddymo 01-26-2010 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav
And unbelievable, UNBELIEVABLE purses

Tampa wouldnt be a viable racing option IF it the weather wasnt OK.. Racing for 20k in a mdn spl is a joke.

Scav 01-26-2010 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by freddymo
Tampa wouldnt be a viable racing option IF it the weather wasnt OK.. Racing for 20k in a mdn spl is a joke.

17k.....Gotta be a FL bred.....

freddymo 01-26-2010 06:44 PM

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17k.....Gotta be a FL bred.....

17k..You buy a horse for 40k feed it, vet it, train it , and hence have 75k in it and IF you win you get 10 grand give 1000 to the trainer(well deserved) and 100 to the groom(well deserved) 50 to the race day pony and slam the balance..lol

DaTruth 01-26-2010 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis
And dye it green. Problem solved. Next!

Seriously, growing grass in river silt, 4 feet below sea level and having 1200 lb. horses trample over it 5 times a day is hardly turf racing.

If they would just switch to St. Augustine grass all their problems would be solved.

DaTruth 01-26-2010 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

At least some of the La-bred stakes felt the pain. Cutting the NO Hcp and Muniz to $400,000 won't make much difference, especially in the case of the Muniz. The Muniz could be $350k and attract as good as field.

Cannon Shell 01-26-2010 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by freddymo
17k..You buy a horse for 40k feed it, vet it, train it , and hence have 75k in it and IF you win you get 10 grand give 1000 to the trainer(well deserved) and 100 to the groom(well deserved) 50 to the race day pony and slam the balance..lol

Hey you forgot to pay the jock!

Cannon Shell 01-26-2010 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by DaTruth
At least some of the La-bred stakes felt the pain. Cutting the NO Hcp and Muniz to $400,000 won't make much difference, especially in the case of the Muniz. The Muniz could be $350k and attract as good as field.

Funny thing was the year I was third in the Muniz (I think Explosive Bid then) the pot was 700k, and that was pre-slots.

Cannon Shell 01-26-2010 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by DaTruth
If they would just switch to St. Augustine grass all their problems would be solved.

That and not letting the people at Jazz fest wreck it every year.

freddymo 01-26-2010 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
Hey you forgot to pay the jock!

F the pin head what did he/she do go along for the ride?

DaTruth 01-26-2010 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
Funny thing was the year I was third in the Muniz (I think Explosive Bid then) the pot was 700k, and that was pre-slots.

For a year or two it was the third or fourth richest turf race in American at nine furlongs or less. I now think it has a bad spot on the calendar as any really good turf horses ready to run in the spring are going to the Kilroe if they are on the West Coast or to the Maker's Mark and then to the Churchill race. The Muniz still attracts a solid field, but I don't think we will see another Lord Smith vs Hawksely Hill or a Sarafan vs Beat Hollow type of top class battle any time soon. FG could probably do just as well by running a $300k turf race at 9 furlongs a few weeks after the Citation and then a $200k turf marathon to close out the meet.

DaTruth 01-26-2010 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
That and not letting the people at Jazz fest wreck it every year.

At least they send that crew walking around the course 50 times to pick up all the chicken bones.

blackthroatedwind 01-26-2010 10:28 PM

Isn't there, or wasn't there, a signal dispute that played a big role in the lower handle?

Cannon Shell 01-26-2010 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
Isn't there, or wasn't there, a signal dispute that played a big role in the lower handle?

They forgot to use that

Scav 01-26-2010 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
Isn't there, or wasn't there, a signal dispute that played a big role in the lower handle?

Great point.

DaTruth 01-27-2010 01:00 AM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
Isn't there, or wasn't there, a signal dispute that played a big role in the lower handle?

Excellent point. You would think the track suits would march that excuse front and center instead of assessing fault for the lower handle to the national economy and the weather. Then again, they have no control over the economy and the weather.

blackthroatedwind 01-27-2010 01:06 AM

It's tricky but I'm not surprised they didn't bring it up.

Bigsmc 01-27-2010 05:20 AM

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Originally Posted by DaTruth
If they would just switch to St. Augustine grass all their problems would be solved.

St. Augustine looks hearty, but it is not. My 50lb kids ruin my yard with their foot traffic. I can only imagine how many races a St. Augustine turf course would last under half ton horses.

DaTruth 01-27-2010 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Bigsmc
St. Augustine looks hearty, but it is not. My 50lb kids ruin my yard with their foot traffic. I can only imagine how many races a St. Augustine turf course would last under half ton horses.

I was half joking about the St. Augustine as it is a common grass in New Orleans. But it gets too clumpy to be raced upon.

But the stuff can be very durable, depending on which variety is used. I resod parts of my yard with the Sapphire variety and once it spread, it held up to human and canine traffic. It held up much better than other varieties, in particular Del Mar. The downside is it gets so thick that it gets a big buildup of thatch when it starts going dormant in the winter.

I can't remember Fair Grounds having as many problems with its turf course 20 years ago. The problems predate Katrina, so that can't be blamed. Who knows what the root of the problem is, but the course looks like a beach for too much of the meet.

arizonadave 01-27-2010 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis
Tampa has a fabulous turf course ;) :tro:

I think Turf Paradise has one of the best turf courses in the country right now too.

cakes44 01-27-2010 01:38 PM

Beulah's ain't too shabby either.

tector 01-27-2010 01:55 PM

Gulfstream's turf course if really quite nice, which is quite a change from the prior version, which was awful.

My favorite turf courses are Kentucky Downs and Canterbury Downs--the latter always looked like a pasture, with LONG grass (haven't seen it in years, however)

NTamm1215 01-27-2010 01:59 PM

Tampa's course is great and so's Sam Houston's though they hardly use it.

NT

Sightseek 01-27-2010 02:11 PM

Colonial's is the absolute best.

Left Bank 01-27-2010 03:55 PM

River downs??


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